[Sabertooth]

The Boston Globe has a different, non-subscription excerpt of this story here.

[Savage Beast]

Gerald, call Hillary. I think she has a duplicate set.

[HarryCaul]

"Whoever did this wanted to know something about John Kerry,"

Or, just as likely, didn't want you to know something about John Kerry.

But given the nature of political campaign (this is *not* an uncommon incident in politics), it could be either side.

[CathyRyan]

Paging Hillary! Paging Hillary! Please pick up the white courtesy phone.

[William McKinley]

I am not buying this.

He just happened to be moving some uncataloged stuff to a secure location? Why would someone do this, unless he was concerned about them being stolen.

And lo and behold, he leaves them in his kitchen, in plain sight.

And lo and behold, someone steals them while they are there.

Something stinks here, and I don't think Nicosia is uninvolved.

[Sabertooth]

Nicosia said he left home Thursday and returned to find several doors inside his house ajar. He said he did not realize until Friday morning that there had been a theft.

When I come home to find doors ajar, it doesn't occur to me that there might have been burglars in the house until the next day, either.

"The police told me that burglars very easily could have come in through a sliding door without signs of a forced entry," he said.

Ain't that convenient?

Nicosia's sitting on some of the hottest files in the country, and he's got a sliding door that can be opened without sign of forced entry?

Was it even locked?

He added that he had no idea why the thieves didn't take all 14 of the boxes. "My guess is that they were surprised during the act and didn't have time to take everything — maybe the dog next door barked," Nicosia said.

I suspect the dogs that aren't barking are the real reason.

How indeed did the burgllars know what to look for, unless they knew what to look for?

He said that while the boxes had been tightly packed when released by the FBI, he saw signs that ones not previously opened had been riffled.

He hasn't even read all the files!

Even if he submits a new Freedom of Information request to the FBI, he won't know if he's getting all the same files.

Lovenguth said police were investigating the case as a burglary. "Our investigating is ongoing," he said.

The other option being filing a false police report.

"We're waiting for the victim to tell us exactly what was missing so we know what we're looking for."

Nicosia doesn't even know what's missing.

"Whoever did this wanted to know something about John Kerry," Nicosia said.

Or knows sometthing about John Kerry they don't want anyone else to know.

The author said that he promised at one point to deliver the files to Kerry so the senator could more fully review the information gathered about him. "But in the meantime, somebody got there first," Nicosia said.

Maybe they just took an early delivery.

[doug from upland]

After my conversation with an L.A. TIMES editor about the assassination plot, she assigned the story to Glionna. The piece he originally did was crap and I told him so.

[Cicero]

The LA Times, which has a long record of crooked reporting, photocopied 50 pages to use for their hitpiece blaming J. Edgar Hoover for persecuting an innocent man like Kerry. Then the next day all the Kerry files disappeared.

Of course the stooges they sent over to Nicosia's house didn't photocopy anything that would have demonstrated Kerry's complicity in treason, planned assassination of senators, or the like. But they may have seen some other stuff of a different sort and reported back on it to their masters in LA.

It seems to me that someone at the LA Times probably passed on the word to Terry McAuliffe or some other appropriate contact, and the DNC ordered the files to be stolen and destroyed. It's the usual clinton M.O.

[doug from upland]

KFWB news in L.A. has been running the story. I just talked to the newsroom and, of course, they were reading form the wire. The nitwit Nicole, to whom I spoke, would not let me talk to or email the person on KFWB editing the story. I gave her info about the assassination attempt, and she said, "OK, we'll add it to the story." There is a better chance that Hillary is not a lesbian than she will run with the info.

Who wants to call KFWB? Maybe they'll get off their butts if they receive loads of calls. 323.462.5392. Don't listen to the long, long menu. Punch No. 2, then No. 1 for the newsroom. Come on, let them hear from you.

[armymarinemom]

Stolen Files Found

John Kerry Computer

[technomage]

Evidently the person(s) stealing these files either did not know they too could get a copy under the FOI act or they were concerned about going that route for some reason (like giving their name?) and decided to steal them.

Or, I guess one other possibility is a set up. Steal the files, blame the theft on Republicans. Of course, this possibility does not stand up either as anyone can get copies through the FOI act.

[Sabertooth]

Flagging folks from last night's thread:

Author who uncovered
John Kerry surveillance files
reports some stolen
AP ^ | March 26th, 2004 | Ron Harris

Sorry for any duplicate pings.

[GailA]

Don't suppose hanoi john had a hand in this do you?

[Mo1]

Nicosia said he left home Thursday and returned to find several doors inside his house ajar. He said he did not realize until Friday morning that there had been a theft. "The police told me that burglars very easily could have come in through a sliding door without signs of a forced entry," he said.

He comes home and the doors are open and he doesn't think anything of it??

These boxes are sitting in his kitchen and he didn't notice any missing till a day later?

Either this guy is a complete idiot or there is something more that he's not telling

[Sabertooth]

Author who uncovered John Kerry surveillance files reports some stolen
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The VVAW Assassination Discussion - "A lot of people were convinced that this was the way to do it."
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Kerry Still Backpedaling on Presence at 1971 Anti-War Meetings
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CNN: Documents reveal FBI surveillance of Kerry in early 1970s
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Kerry hedges on 1971 KC meeting [for assassination plot]
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KERRY RETREATS FROM HIS DENIAL ON VIETNAM MEET - Evidence Puts Him At Kansas Parley
			Posted by kennedy On 03/19/2004 9:07:07 AM PST with 422 comments New York Sun ^ | Mar 19, 2004 | JOSH GERSTEIN MILL VALLEY, Calif. — Senator Kerry of Massachusetts yesterday retreated from his earlier steadfast denials that he attended a meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War at which a plan to assassinate U.S. Senators was debated. The reversal came as new evidence, including reports from FBI informants, emerged that contradicted Mr. Kerry’s previous statements about the gathering, which was held in Kansas City, Mo. in November 1971. “John Kerry had no personal recollection of this meeting 33 years ago,” a Kerry campaign spokesman, David Wade, said in a statement e-mailed last night from Idaho, where Mr. Kerry is on vacation....
Kerry Lying About Anti-War Past, Supporter Alleges
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Pro-Kerry Historian: Kerry Lies About Anti-war Activities
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THE KERRY DOSSIER (post here anything you've uncovered on Kerry)
			Posted by Liz On 02/11/2004 10:04:05 AM PST with 468 comments 2/11/04 | FR INVESTIGATIVE TEAM <p>WASH TIMES 2/11 Rep. Sam Johnson, Texas Republican, who spent nearly seven years in a prisoner-of-war camp in Vietnam, said yesterday the photograph of Mr. Kerry with Miss Fonda will hurt him nevertheless. "I think it symbolizes how two-faced he is, talking about his war reputation, which is questionable on the one hand, and then coming out against our veterans who were fighting over there on the other," Mr. Johnson said. Mr. Johnson recalled that his North Vietnamese captors played recordings of Miss Fonda telling U.S. troops to give up the war. "Seeing this picture of Kerry with her at antiwar demonstrations in the United States just makes me want to throw up."</p>

[cyncooper]

The author said that he promised at one point to deliver the files to Kerry so the senator could more fully review the information gathered about him. "But in the meantime, somebody got there first," Nicosia said.

Sweet.

Is it me or does he not seem the least disturbed at the idea that someone was skulking around in his home. I'd be creeped out and not chirping about maybe someone wanted a piece of posterity like the Berlin Wall, for crying out loud.

This would lend itself more to the notion that he helpfully 'lost' the boxes so any nosy reporters who could nail down via records how many boxes of documents had been delivered to Nicosia and asked him, this is his way of explaining why 3 boxes are no longer in his possession.

My guess, the Kerry camp has them safe out of the reach of any other curious people and they know a new FOI request would take months if not years to fill and never be done before November.

[Yaelle]

So what do we still have on Kerry now? How much of the evidence needed to break open the VVAW assassination vote story was possibly in those files?

Why hasn't this story been more widely reported, even by conservatives? What is stopping people from going with this?

I don't know if this Nicosia was "told to leave his sliding door unlocked" and went to dinner, or what. Perhaps no one was even in his house. Perhaps no boxes were even touched, but he needed to "claim" that things were missing. His story sounds fishy for sure.

If Mister Senator was really in a room, voting on whether or not his predecessors could continue to inhale and exhale, the American people need to hear about it. NOW. How can we get them to?

[BushisTheMan]

Knowing what the Clintons did to anyone who opposed them, the beatings (Gennifer's neighbor who filmed Clinton visiting her), the tax audits, the vilifications upon their characters, the breakins, the murders...why would anyone be so stupid as to leave these files in their home?

I hope copies exist. Didn't he get them from the Freedom of Information act? I'm assuming they are copies, if he did and the real files are safely in the government hands.

[Lancey Howard]

He said he was moving the remaining documents to a secure location Friday afternoon.

Yeah. NOW the guy gets a brain, lol.

Meantime, the whole things still smells fishy and makes no sense. There's no motive. Various publications have copies of the files, Bush's people can get them anytime they want, and, in fact, anybody else who wants to obtain the files through the FOIA can get them the same way Nicosia did.

I can't figure out if there is even a story here, but my first overriding suspicion is that this clown Nicosia, of San Fransicko, is trying to get his name in the news; make a name for himself. Nothing else makes sense.

[bayourod]

These were copies I presume, and the originals are still at the government archives? FOIA requests are always for copies and reasonable charges are made for copying them.

[BykrBayb]

What if - Nicosia is worried somebody will break into his home to steal the files. He puts out a story that some of the files have already been stolen. Does that dissuade Kerry's cronies from trying it? Just a thought.