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"Pinch" comes off as the bad seed, an aberration in "Punch" Sulzberger's gene pool. The Little Prince screwed-up bigtime.
1 posted on 03/25/2004 2:45:38 PM PST by Liz
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To: Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER; Libloather; martin_fierro
Howell Raines spills his guts.
2 posted on 03/25/2004 2:47:56 PM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
"the Times badly needs to raise the level of its journalism...."

I must say I agree with old Howell on this one. I wonder if we are thinking of the same ways to raise the level.
3 posted on 03/25/2004 2:53:14 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: Timesink; *CCRM; governsleastgovernsbest; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; ...
Media Schadenfreude ping - Raines Rains Mainly On The Pinch

On, Off, or grab it for a Media Shenanigans/Schadenfreude ping:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~anamusedspectator/

4 posted on 03/25/2004 3:00:59 PM PST by an amused spectator (if we had wrapped our tin foil tighter, we could have prevented 9/11)
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To: Liz
...the Times badly needs to raise the level of its journalism...

It has been my experience that adding water to a stagnant pond only churns up the scum, and makes the slime more treacherous.

6 posted on 03/25/2004 3:01:59 PM PST by FreedomFarmer (I named my boar Mohammed.)
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To: Liz
"Nowadays, I think of Jayson Blair as an accident that ended my newspaper career in the same unpredictable way that a heart attack or a plane crash might have," writes Raines.

Only partly true. It was an accident in the same way that having a heart attack after 30 years of smoking three packs a day and eating nothing but eggs benedict for breakfast, lunch, and dinner is an accident.

Jayson Blair had been emitting smoke for a long time before he burst into flames. Raines was, to use his own favorite word, "complacent" about it.

The fact that Raines was also on a mission to turn America's Foremost Leftist Newspaper into the American Left's Foremost Newspaper should have had even more to do with it, but it appears that Sulzberger was in full agreement with that part. Damn them both, as far as I'm concerned.


8 posted on 03/25/2004 3:06:46 PM PST by Nick Danger (If you don't disagree with me, how will I know I'm right?)
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To: Liz
"...that the Times badly needs to raise the level of its journalism, and to do so quickly in order to survive and make the full transition to the digital age"

Does that roughly translate into "they can now know when we are lying"?

10 posted on 03/25/2004 3:22:47 PM PST by NonValueAdded (He says "Bring it on!!" Then when you do, he says, "How dare you!! ")
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To: Liz
"The difference between Punch and Arthur is the difference between the Marine Corps, where Punch had his formative experience, and Outward Bound, where Arthur had his," Raines writes. Both experiences teach you how to get to the top of the mountain, he notes, "but Arthur wants it to be touchy feely along the way."

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Who knew the Old Gray Lady was an MTV Goth?!

12 posted on 03/25/2004 3:59:54 PM PST by Enduring Freedom (Guess How We Ended Japanese Kamikaze Attacks?)
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To: Liz; All
Cross-link:

-The Old Grey Info-Slut... the NYT/Jayson Blair Affair--

13 posted on 03/25/2004 4:11:10 PM PST by backhoe (--30--)
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To: Liz; diotima; Bob J; Timesink
Raines states in the Atlantic essay that he strove in his two-year run at the top to shake up a culture of "mañana journalism" and to dispel what he called the "dangerously outmoded Times maxim, 'It's not news until we say it's news.'
Yup, they done lost that crown.

16 posted on 03/25/2004 4:33:36 PM PST by AnnaZ (I hate Times New Roman... and it's all Mel Gibson's fault!)
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To: Liz
The only way you are goiing to fix the NYT is to fire everybody there and start out with a whole new crew. The new people would have to be told that any editorial slant in any news item would result in immediate termination.

Since that will never happen the NYT will continue is spriral downward into the muck.

21 posted on 03/25/2004 5:41:30 PM PST by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing!)
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To: Liz
Raines states in the Atlantic essay that he strove in his two-year run at the top to shake up a culture of "mañana journalism" and to dispel what he called the "dangerously outmoded Times maxim, 'It's not news until we say it's news.'

What Raines will be most remembered for, besides the Jayson Blair thing, is his obsessive "flooding the zone" for Martha Burk's crusade against the Masters. That sounds like creating, not covering, news to me. Notice that now that Raines is out, Burk is no longer planning any Masters' protests?

22 posted on 03/25/2004 10:03:52 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: Liz
Raines likens Sulzberger's efforts to thwart the paper's gossipmongers to a cartoon character known for persistence - and failure: "Every executive editor has been frustrated by the Times grapevine, and Arthur sometimes comes across as Wile E. Coyote, so elaborate and endlessly hopeful are his schemes to thwart the gossip network."

Ummmm, would that be like endlessly silly schemes that never work or like the puffed-up idiocy of one who never wins?

27 posted on 03/26/2004 2:49:11 PM PST by GOPJ (NFL Owners: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
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