Man Who Killed Armed Intruder Jailed Eight Years

News.Scotsman.com ^ | March 23, 2004 | Will Batchelor

[Travis McGee]

Man Who Killed Armed Intruder Jailed Eight Years

A man who stabbed to death an armed intruder at his home was jailed for eight years today.

Carl Lindsay, 25, answered a knock at his door in Salford, Greater Manchester, to find four men armed with a gun.

When the gang tried to rob him he grabbed a samurai sword and stabbed one of them, 37-year-old Stephen Swindells, four times.

Mr Swindells, of Salford, was later found collapsed in an alley and died in hospital.

Lindsay, of Walkden, was found guilty of manslaughter following a three-week trial at Manchester Crown Court.

He was sentenced to eight years’ imprisonment.

After the case, Detective Chief Inspector Sam Haworth said: “Four men, including the victim, had set out purposefully to rob Carl Lindsay and this intent ultimately led to Stephen Swindells’ death.

“I believe the sentences passed today reflect the severity of the circumstances.”

Three other men were charged with robbery and firearms offences in connection with the incident, which took place in February last year.

[Oberon]

Want to give the Greater Manchester Police an earful? Here's their complaint form online:

http://www.gmp.police.uk/servlet/ComplaintForm

It might do no good whatsoever, but at least it'll make US feel a little better.

[xm177e2]

Why doesn't the Conservative party run on a platform to pardon everyone convicted of using deadly or disproportionate force in self-defense?

Because the tories are wussies. All they want is to get back into power. They think abandoning Margaret Thatcher and attacking Blair over Iraq is going to win them votes. They aren't interested in principles like "individual rights" or "self-defense." It's very sad.

[vpintheak]

You would hope so wouldn't you. I know I would be one of the first screaming revolution.

[Indie]

I have never, and will never, visit the other side of the Atlantic. Why would I want to give people who spit on us my money? There is plenty of history and geological beauty right here in the US, more than one could see in their lifetime.

[LTCJ]

Dear Lord.

I used to work with an Englishman from Yorkshire who, upon completing an apprenticeship, received his papers as a Freeman. In that document it stated that, as a freeman, he had the right to "march upon the village commons with bayonet affixed".

As antiquated as it sounds, that paper still truly defines the difference between a freeman and all others.

Perhaps it is time for men in the land of my forebearers to once again "march upon the Commons with bayonets affixed".

[First_Salute]

Bump.

[sauron]

It's worse even that that.

I have a small four blade (canopener, bottleopener, etc.) red Victorinox pocketknife that, if carried in London, would earn the bearer TWO YEARS' prison. Just for possession!

I have photos of public service ads (in London) advertising harsh sentences for anyone owning and carrying one.

The entire concept, to me, is unimaginable. How far the stiff-upper-lipped Brits have fallen.

[JimRed]

A DRUG dealer killed a man with a 12-inch sword after a gang of armed robbers slipped into his flat, a court was told.

And now you know the REST of the story!

[Pyro7480]

This incident took place in Manchester, which I thought is in England.

[Porterville]

wait, wait. Is it weanies as in weak, or weenies as in wee-little pukes??

[B Knotts]

Absolutely sickening.

It's no wonder people are embracing Islam over there...they figure they'll be more free.

[sushiman]

England has been going soft in the outhouse for years ...Thank the Valley Forge boys for getting us out from under that den of iniquity and " accent " .

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[Paleo Conservative]

This quote from your Free Republic home page cracks me up, especially considering who said it.

"George Orwell once remarked that political thought, especially on the left, is a sort of masturbation fantasy in which the world of fact hardly matters. That's true, unfortunately, and it's part of the reason that our society lacks a genuine, responsible, serious left-wing movement.

"--Avram Noam Chomsky, 1969

[Ben Chad]

WTF?!

[ExSoldier]

"In the end, there can be only ONE"

Highlander BUMP

[fightu4it]

Was it an assault sword?

[RGSpincich]

The drug dealer chases the one without a gun into an alley, he stabs the defenseless robber to death. The robber is dead and the dealer is doing time. Another happy ending.

[yarddog]

Just about all my ancestors came from Scotland. Sort of makes me not as proud as I once was.

Some time ago, I saw a Scotsman interviewed on a local tv show. He was the manager of a golf course in the same city. This man was really angry at what had become of Scotland. He blamed labor unions although I am sure there is more to it than that.

I do wonder if the fact the man was a drug dealer might have had some impact on the sentence.

[Agnes Heep]

This incident took place in Manchester, which I thought is in England.

I believe you're right; mea culpa.