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NEWSWEEK: Before 9/11, Justice Department Curtailed Program to Monitor Al Qaeda Suspects in the U.S.
Prnewswire ^ | 3/21/04

Posted on 03/21/2004 8:03:29 AM PST by Brian Mosely

NEWSWEEK: In the Months Before 9/11, Justice Department Curtailed Highly Classified Program to Monitor Al Qaeda Suspects in the U.S.
Sunday March 21, 10:51 am ET

'They Came in There With Their Agenda and [Al Qaeda] was not on it,' Says Former Counterterrorism Chief Clarke of Bush Administration

NEW YORK, March 21 /PRNewswire/ -- Newsweek has learned that in the months before 9/11, the U.S. Justice Department curtailed a highly classified program called "Catcher's Mitt" to monitor Al Qaeda suspects in the United States, after a federal judge severely chastised the FBI for improperly seeking permission to wiretap terrorists. During the Bush administration's first few months in office, Attorney General John Ashcroft downgraded terrorism as a priority, choosing to place more emphasis on drug trafficking and gun violence, report Investigative Correspondent Michael Isikoff and Assistant Managing Editor Evan Thomas in the March 29 issue of Newsweek (on newsstands Monday, March 22).


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; bookreview; catchersmitt; clarke; doj; homelandsecurity; jihadinamerica; kerrystaff; kerrystaffer; richardclarke
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To: cwb
[Let's not forget who CLinton went after, after the first WTC attack. Instead of focusing on Islamic fundamentalist, that administration went after the Christian fundys at Waco. From the beginning, this administration went after the wrong people.]


Really the Clinton administration with Janet Reno leading the charge zeroed in on the real enemy, NOT. They were really tough on christian women and children in Waco, but on islamic murderers they never even raised a finger. No matter they got hit time and again by the real killers.

This entire storyline is a pre-emptive attempt at deflecting the heat from the administration which was most responsible for the increasingly bold terror attacks on the USA. The lack of any cohesive policy to attack al qaeda in their territory and the zero priority given to the intelligence community during Clinton's regime are the real culprits and this investigation will show that as the truth. This false issue is the typical democratic tactic even in issues as grave as national security, blame someone else for their failures and the biased, unethical liberal media will run with it.
41 posted on 03/21/2004 9:11:36 AM PST by federal
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To: cyncooper
Yup. It's so neat to know I'm right and to be so immune to skepticism that it doesn't bother me anymore!

I've been down this route before (it's been a long time now) so it's not going to bother me.

Nonetheless, it does annoy me when people emphatically declare: No one knew! or No one could have guessed! or whatever because it's simply not true. .

Like I said, people should believe what makes them happy. It doesn't matter now.

42 posted on 03/21/2004 9:14:40 AM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: federal
Yeah...and it's also interesting how this story is overshadowing the recently release Predator drone video of OBL and his terrorist camp.
43 posted on 03/21/2004 9:23:37 AM PST by cwb (Kerry: The only person who could make Bill Clinton look like a moderate)
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To: coloradan; alloysteel; WFTR; L.N. Smithee; CROSSHIGHWAYMAN; expatpat
It was probably Judge Lamberth who is an excellent judge nominated by Reagan and appointed to FISC court by Rehnquist.

He interpreted the law as it had always been interpreted and he had experienced 75 abuses of the law by Reno during the Clinton administration!

"in the months before 9/11, the U.S. Justice Department curtailed a highly classified program called "Catcher's Mitt" to monitor Al Qaeda suspects in the United States, after a federal judge severely chastised the FBI for improperly seeking permission to wiretap terrorists"

HERE
"In March of 2001 [right after the Bush administration took over], the government informed the [FISA] Court of an error contained in a series of FISA applications. This error arose in the description of a ``wall'' procedure. The Presiding Judge of the Court at the time, Royce Lamberth, wrote to the Attorney General expressing concern over this error and barred one specifically-named FBI agent from appearing before the Court as a FISA affiant. . . . FBI Director Freeh personally met twice with then-Presiding Judge Lamberth to discuss the accuracy problems and necessary solutions.''
As the Committee later learned from review of the FISA Court's May 17, 2002, opinion, that Court had complained of 75 inaccuracies in FISA affidavits submitted by the FBI...
a memorandum dated April 21, 2000, from the FBI's Counterterrorism Division, [] details a series of inaccuracies and errors in handling FISA applications and wiretaps that have nothing whatsoever to do with the ``wall.'' Such mistakes included videotaping a meeting when videotaping was not allowed under the relevant FISA Court order, continuing to intercept a person's email after there was no authorization to do so, and continuing a wiretap on a cell phone even after the phone number had changed to a new subscriber who spoke a different language from the target. "

The article is a continuation of this "big Lie" coverup:Court Cited Clinton-Era Abuses Suppressed by Networks...

That probably isn't very clear LOL!
So to summarize: the "federal judge severely chastised the FBI for improperly seeking permission to wiretap terrorists" probably refers to Lamberth's reaction to the March 2001 report of Clinton and Reno era abuses.

44 posted on 03/21/2004 9:30:19 AM PST by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: mrsmith
I stand correcte. Thanks. I guess we can still blame the Clintons, but not the juddge. Why did DoJ drop "Catcher's Mitt" so readily?
45 posted on 03/21/2004 9:51:59 AM PST by expatpat
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To: Brian Mosely
That's why Ketchup boy is taking his little snow vacation -- because he knew Clinton's hitmen would be out doing his dirty work this weekend.
46 posted on 03/21/2004 9:56:06 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: rageaholic
And if the INS was cleaned out and made to do their job, and the BP agents were given the tools to do theirs, there wouldn't be any need for all the talk about putting the military on the border.

Last year someone posted a Tancredo testimony in which he claimed INS agents told him that catching and deporting illegals "wasn't their job," they were there to find them food stamps and other social services. Astounding, if true.

47 posted on 03/21/2004 10:02:48 AM PST by FlyVet
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To: Brian Mosely
Spikey and Evan Thomas to the DNC:

"We gave at the office."

;-)


48 posted on 03/21/2004 10:24:05 AM PST by an amused spectator (John Kerry: Future Leader Of The Traffic Citation On Terror)
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To: Brian Mosely
Well, if Clarke and the Clinton Administration knew all this about AlQueda, why the heck didn't they go after them?
49 posted on 03/21/2004 10:24:48 AM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: FlyVet
The INS was "replaced" by another organization after 9/11 and the scandal that broke when Mohammad Attah's visa was automatically renenewed.

But I'm sure its essentially business as usual. Muslims are constantly streaming into this country, as a look around any large international US airport will show you.

I say rebuild the World Trade Center and relocate the Immigration authorities to the top 20 floors of each tower. Until then, they'll remain oblivious to their grave duty to the Citizens of the United States.

50 posted on 03/21/2004 10:55:31 AM PST by rageaholic
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To: expatpat
"Why did DoJ drop "Catcher's Mitt" so readily? "

I don't know what it was. But assuming from the timimg in the article that it was a Clinton administration program, I'd guess it was illegal.

51 posted on 03/21/2004 11:16:06 AM PST by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: AntiGuv
Thanks for the reply. What could have been done in advance to stop the September 11 attacks? I realize that we had chances to deport a few of them and failed to do so, but deporting just a few wouldn't have stopped the attacks. Furthermore, they could have gotten back into the country through our porous borders. Do you really think that banning fingernail clippers at that time would have stopped the attacks? I admit that the way that planes deal with hijackers was always stupid, but do you think the administration would have been able to overcome the bureaucratic inertia and change things before an attack occurred?

Ready for a Repeat
Bill

52 posted on 03/21/2004 12:34:56 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: mrsmith
Wow, good research mrsmith and much thanks. If I understand your post correctly, the program was knocked back because the Clinton administration had been handling it incorrectly and the Bush administration just didn't get it running properly again in time to catch the terrorists. Do we know whether the people targetted were the right people to begin with?
53 posted on 03/21/2004 12:41:42 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: WFTR
Sounds like you're kinda confusing the program "catcher's mitt" with the FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveilance Act) law. FISA is the law under which surveilance of agents of foreign powers (like foreign terrorists) is done, supervised by the FISC court.

Reno's FBI was constantly in trouble with the FISC court for overstepping it's powers under FISA. "Catcher's mitt" was probably a Clinton surveilance program that was not legal under FISA before the Patriot Act.

54 posted on 03/21/2004 7:39:46 PM PST by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: WFTR; sinkspur; cyncooper
What could have been done in advance to stop the September 11 attacks?

Not much, or at least not much of any great consequence. You already mentioned that there is reason to believe we could have detained and possibly deported a few of them (although it's unstated that this would have amounted to a much more involved, comprehensive INS sweep than just picking out a few key individuals, who weren't especially distinguishable from the illegal masses). However, there is little reason to think that this would have prevented the eventual attacks.

Do you really think that banning fingernail clippers at that time would have stopped the attacks?

No. As a matter of fact, my personal opinion is that the only thing that is much likely to prevent comparable attacks at this time is that passengers are now likely to resist and seize or crash the plane.

...do you think the administration would have been able to overcome the bureaucratic inertia and change things before an attack occurred?

Certainly not. One of the key reasons being that there was simply not that much apparent cause for alarm. That's a somewhat cold statement in hindsight, but the fact of the matter is that no one envisioned that the World Trade Center towers would collapse. I mean, it still would have been an ugly event if planes crashed into the buildings, but we are talking about several lower orders of magnitude than what actually ended up happening.

The WTC buildings were designed to remain standing in the event of a plane crash. Everyone who had examined the matter knew that. Some have said that the buildings should have been evacuated immediately but even John O'Neill, the former head of FBI counterterrorism - who was then head of WTC security - did not see fit to order an evacuation on 9/11.

While it was no shock to people long familiar with Al Qaeda's tactics and objectives, it is nonetheless true that a lot of things unfortunately came together just right for them to pull off what actually happened and wreak the level of destruction that they did.

In hindsight, it's easier to just say that no one could have imagined they might fly planes into buildings, even though people certainly did and had concrete evidence to expect just that (as linked above).

55 posted on 03/21/2004 8:35:48 PM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: sinkspur
A career civil servant, Clarke was known for pounding the table to urge his counterparts at the CIA, FBI and Pentagon to do more about Al Qaeda.
But Clarke, always a goofy conspiracy theorist, guessed that Al Qaeda would launch a cyberterror war. He had not a clue that Al Qaeda would use planes to attack buildings.


He forgot to mentioned that Janet Rino said it was aginst International Law to go after OBL when he was offered to the Clinton's Adm.....!
56 posted on 03/21/2004 8:42:05 PM PST by danamco
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Let's try this again:

"in the months before 9/11, the U.S. Justice Department curtailed a highly classified program called "Catcher's Mitt" to monitor Al Qaeda suspects in the United States, after a federal judge severely chastised the FBI for improperly seeking permission to wiretap terrorists"

Don't lay this at the feet of the judge. The Justice department could have continued the program, merely having FBI agents follow the law. Instead, they bagged the program because, apparently, it was too much trouble to have FBI agents follow proper procedure. Like a petulant child, Justice essentially said, "well, if you won't let us play the game the way we want to, we not going to play at all."

And you think this is the judge's fault?

57 posted on 03/21/2004 10:21:09 PM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: coloradan
I like the question, "what have you done lately".

Bush has done more to fight terrorism in a year and a half than Clinton did in 8 years.

It's personal to me.
My daughter worked in the World Trade Center #2 96th floor in 1993 when the murderers tried to topple the towers the first time.

My next door neighbor, a Cantor Fitzgerald broker, had a habit of driving in early to work to avoid the traffic.
He was murdered on Sept 11, 2001.

Richard Clarke, this morning's media darling, blocked Clinton administration officials at every juncture during the late 1990s when they dared to outguess his so-called expertise and tried to think of ways to take the fight to Al Quaida.

What a laugh that he comes out in an election year with a book to sell.

It's arrogant primmadonnas like him who get US into defensive positions.

58 posted on 03/22/2004 5:38:11 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: coloradan
"they bagged the program because, apparently, it was too much trouble to have FBI agents follow proper procedure. Like a petulant child"

That's quite a leap!

Of course we don't know just what "catcher's mitt" was, but it sounds like a wide net surveillance operation that simply would not be allowed under the law no matter how it was dressed up.
There is no reason to think that legally permissable means to achieve the same goal were not continued.

59 posted on 03/22/2004 7:23:47 AM PST by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: nutmeg
bookmark bump
60 posted on 03/22/2004 7:24:49 AM PST by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F’in al-Qerry)
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