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Echoes of the Wild West in one man's border war
Arizona Daily Star ^
| 20 March 2004
| Michael Marizco
Posted on 03/20/2004 12:20:50 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder
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More detail on Thursday's shooting incident.
To: HiJinx; Spiff; SandRat; AZHSer; idratherbepainting; sasafras; gubamyster; Happy2BMe; Missouri; ...
Ping!
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posted on
03/20/2004 12:23:51 PM PST
by
JackelopeBreeder
(Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
To: JackelopeBreeder
Don't shoot at the hood of the car next time.
Empty the first mag right through the glass.
L
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posted on
03/20/2004 12:25:58 PM PST
by
Lurker
(Don't bite the hand that meads you.)
To: JackelopeBreeder
Geez, if it's drug smugglers alley on this guy's property why not invite in the feds? Winging it on his own will buy him a casket.
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posted on
03/20/2004 12:27:40 PM PST
by
sergeantdave
(Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
To: JackelopeBreeder
Kozak says he threatened the agency with an injunction because, like the smugglers, the agents kept cutting down his fences
Hey it ain't the wide open west.
The man can fence his property and the federals have to deal with it.
They can't whine about a citizen exercising his property rights.
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posted on
03/20/2004 12:28:08 PM PST
by
dts32041
( "If Bill Shakespeare lived today, would he have written a sequel call "Egglet"?")
To: JackelopeBreeder
And we need gun control? According to the socialists we do as they say we can rely on the authorities to protect us. HA! Fat chance of that and this proves it! The cops admit they cant gaurd him all the time. So he must do it himself.
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posted on
03/20/2004 12:34:33 PM PST
by
crz
To: JackelopeBreeder
Attention, Senator McCain and buddies in the House - Arizona citizens are under fire by Mexico - where are you?????
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posted on
03/20/2004 12:36:56 PM PST
by
janetgreen
(President Bush: CLOSE THE BORDERS!!!!)
To: janetgreen
McCain is too busy trying to ban the guns this man would use to defend himself with.
Why does he keep getting re-elected in Arizona?
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posted on
03/20/2004 12:40:20 PM PST
by
Armedanddangerous
(The first rule of gunfighting is to have a gun...more than one, if possible..)
To: JackelopeBreeder; Carry_Okie; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; ...
Short list.
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posted on
03/20/2004 12:55:06 PM PST
by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!
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posted on
03/20/2004 1:04:14 PM PST
by
E.G.C.
To: JackelopeBreeder
...soon-to-be illegal entrants in Agua Prieta - say they worry Wednesday's incident is indicative of the biggest fear of vigilantism are coming true - shootouts between Americans and illegal border crossers.Are you scared enough that you'll stop breaking the law?
Jose Perez, a 36-year-old Mexican waiting to cross illegally from Agua Prieta Friday night, said the rumors that illegal entrants are targets reach all the way to Mexico City. "I hope nobody shoots at me," he said.
Stay on your own side of the border, Jose, and you'll have nothing to worry about.
To: JackelopeBreeder
The feds should issue this good citizen a few cases of anti-tank size land mines.
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posted on
03/20/2004 1:15:24 PM PST
by
JimRed
(Fight election fraud! Volunteer as a local poll watcher, challenger or district official.)
To: All
Doesn't it seem strange that our politicians only listen to Mexico and not Americans in direct contradiction to the U.S.Constitution to which they swore an oath? Could it possibly have anything to do with loyalty to a One-World government thus "telling a lie under oath"? Does anyone know how to trace deals and money? When an American is castigated and possibly persecuted for defending his property the perpetrators are primarily lawless, turn-coat American politicians from the local to the top.
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posted on
03/20/2004 1:16:46 PM PST
by
w-pat
(")
To: Armedanddangerous
Cause the folks in Phoenix are from Chicago!
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posted on
03/20/2004 1:17:38 PM PST
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
To: JackelopeBreeder
Time for an eBay search for "claymore mines".
To: JackelopeBreeder
"Jose Perez, a 36-year-old Mexican waiting to cross illegally from Agua Prieta Friday night, said the rumors that illegal entrants are targets reach all the way to Mexico City. "I hope nobody shoots at me," he said."
He is getting ready to break OUR immigration laws and I'm supposed to have sympathy for him? Not.
sw
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posted on
03/20/2004 1:19:06 PM PST
by
spectre
(Spectre's wife (Seal the Border..Bush!)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Unless the people in Phoenix help their rural fellow citizens, they will be back in Chicago, as the Southwest becomes Atzlan and they become aliens.
To: Lurker
Don't shoot at the hood of the car next time. Empty the first mag right through the glass.
Really? I heard it was in this order: radiator, tires, engine and then glass.
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posted on
03/20/2004 1:32:28 PM PST
by
yankeedame
("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
To: crz
One of the basic themes of gun control is that only the police and military should have handguns or any type of firearm. I cannot explain their rationale, other than to say that gun control proponents must believe that the police exist to protect the citizenry from victimization. But, in light of court decisions, we find that such is not the case. Further, look at the behavior of attorneys, and in particular, one attorney Mr. John Brophy, who doesn't deny that the police have no legal obligation to protect citizens, but does attempt to intentionally mislead people into believing that the government in this country recognizes and upholds citizens' rights to self defense, a belief that is completely and utterly false!
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posted on
03/20/2004 1:39:43 PM PST
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
To: JackelopeBreeder
After two years of drug smugglers running their loads across his 40-acre property, tearing down fences and at times taking wild shots at him, Kozak on Wednesday fired back with more than his usual warning shots. mexicans started the shootings eh? Been shooting for two years. Ok.
He opened fire on the truck with his rifle, placing three rounds in the hood.
Should have been 3 rounds through the windshield. Truck hoods do not shoot back. Drug smugglers behind windshields are another story.
After three $200 gates and spending hundreds more for fences and posts, Kozak gave up because they were simply knocked over by the trespassers.
$600 plus "hundreds more" and he could have had a nice M-14. .308 punch and plenty of range....
Kozak moved on to other barricades, made of wood and barbed wire with danger signs.
A backhoe to trench or a tracked blade to push a mound over the road... much better.
"They gave me a message and said, 'Don't shoot at us any more.'"
Well I read that as "Don't shoot any less" either. And "my message" would have been more "on target" as well. But that is just `lil `ol me.
A commander with the Cochise County Sheriff's Department. "You could always expect violence to instigate violence."
Yep, mexicans starting shooting first by two years if the begining of the artical is accurate. I am totally in awe of Mr. Kozak's huge amount of patence in not zotting the border bunnies on night one.
"Ranch Rescue's been wanting this to happen and unfortunately, I don't believe they know the depth or magnitude of what could happen to them or the relations between both countries," he said.
Ok Mr. county commander, the folks at RR have not been "waiting for this to happen," they have been WARNING everyone that this would happen and know EXACTLY what is at stake here.
Dave Stoddard, a retired Border Patrol agent living in Douglas, looked at the shooting as an inevitable clash.
While he said Kozak shouldn't have fired first, smugglers shouldn't be running loads through his property, Stoddard said.
OK. I am not going to pretend there is not media bias in most of these stories but that is the third time it has been claimed that Kozak fired first and acording to the first paragraph of this little bit of apparent propaganda that is totally false.
Why is it always the LEO's that spread such falsehoods, yet refuse to engage the armed criminals that are already shooting at American land owners?
oh... already shooting... right, never mind.
T L I
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posted on
03/20/2004 1:44:10 PM PST
by
TLI
(...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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