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More detail on Thursday's shooting incident.
1 posted on 03/20/2004 12:20:51 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder
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Ping!
2 posted on 03/20/2004 12:23:51 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Don't shoot at the hood of the car next time.

Empty the first mag right through the glass.

L

3 posted on 03/20/2004 12:25:58 PM PST by Lurker (Don't bite the hand that meads you.)
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Geez, if it's drug smugglers alley on this guy's property why not invite in the feds? Winging it on his own will buy him a casket.
4 posted on 03/20/2004 12:27:40 PM PST by sergeantdave (Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Kozak says he threatened the agency with an injunction because, like the smugglers, the agents kept cutting down his fences

Hey it ain't the wide open west.

The man can fence his property and the federals have to deal with it.

They can't whine about a citizen exercising his property rights.

5 posted on 03/20/2004 12:28:08 PM PST by dts32041 ( "If Bill Shakespeare lived today, would he have written a sequel call "Egglet"?")
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To: JackelopeBreeder
And we need gun control? According to the socialists we do as they say we can rely on the authorities to protect us. HA! Fat chance of that and this proves it! The cops admit they cant gaurd him all the time. So he must do it himself.
6 posted on 03/20/2004 12:34:33 PM PST by crz
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Short list.
9 posted on 03/20/2004 12:55:06 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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...soon-to-be illegal entrants in Agua Prieta - say they worry Wednesday's incident is indicative of the biggest fear of vigilantism are coming true - shootouts between Americans and illegal border crossers.

Are you scared enough that you'll stop breaking the law?

Jose Perez, a 36-year-old Mexican waiting to cross illegally from Agua Prieta Friday night, said the rumors that illegal entrants are targets reach all the way to Mexico City. "I hope nobody shoots at me," he said.

Stay on your own side of the border, Jose, and you'll have nothing to worry about.

11 posted on 03/20/2004 1:07:00 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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The feds should issue this good citizen a few cases of anti-tank size land mines.
12 posted on 03/20/2004 1:15:24 PM PST by JimRed (Fight election fraud! Volunteer as a local poll watcher, challenger or district official.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Time for an eBay search for "claymore mines".
15 posted on 03/20/2004 1:18:37 PM PST by John Jorsett
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"Jose Perez, a 36-year-old Mexican waiting to cross illegally from Agua Prieta Friday night, said the rumors that illegal entrants are targets reach all the way to Mexico City. "I hope nobody shoots at me," he said."

He is getting ready to break OUR immigration laws and I'm supposed to have sympathy for him? Not.

sw

16 posted on 03/20/2004 1:19:06 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife (Seal the Border..Bush!)
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After two years of drug smugglers running their loads across his 40-acre property, tearing down fences and at times taking wild shots at him, Kozak on Wednesday fired back with more than his usual warning shots.

mexicans started the shootings eh? Been shooting for two years. Ok.

He opened fire on the truck with his rifle, placing three rounds in the hood.

Should have been 3 rounds through the windshield. Truck hoods do not shoot back. Drug smugglers behind windshields are another story.

After three $200 gates and spending hundreds more for fences and posts, Kozak gave up because they were simply knocked over by the trespassers.

$600 plus "hundreds more" and he could have had a nice M-14. .308 punch and plenty of range....

Kozak moved on to other barricades, made of wood and barbed wire with danger signs.

A backhoe to trench or a tracked blade to push a mound over the road... much better.

"They gave me a message and said, 'Don't shoot at us any more.'"

Well I read that as "Don't shoot any less" either. And "my message" would have been more "on target" as well. But that is just `lil `ol me.

A commander with the Cochise County Sheriff's Department. "You could always expect violence to instigate violence."

Yep, mexicans starting shooting first by two years if the begining of the artical is accurate. I am totally in awe of Mr. Kozak's huge amount of patence in not zotting the border bunnies on night one.

"Ranch Rescue's been wanting this to happen and unfortunately, I don't believe they know the depth or magnitude of what could happen to them or the relations between both countries," he said.

Ok Mr. county commander, the folks at RR have not been "waiting for this to happen," they have been WARNING everyone that this would happen and know EXACTLY what is at stake here.

Dave Stoddard, a retired Border Patrol agent living in Douglas, looked at the shooting as an inevitable clash.

While he said Kozak shouldn't have fired first, smugglers shouldn't be running loads through his property, Stoddard said.

OK. I am not going to pretend there is not media bias in most of these stories but that is the third time it has been claimed that Kozak fired first and acording to the first paragraph of this little bit of apparent propaganda that is totally false.

Why is it always the LEO's that spread such falsehoods, yet refuse to engage the armed criminals that are already shooting at American land owners?

oh... already shooting... right, never mind.

T L I

20 posted on 03/20/2004 1:44:10 PM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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Ya'll should see what my Barrett 82A1 will do to an engine block.........for that matter my 460 weatherby magnum does a nice job also, albeit a bit tough on the sholder if a target rich envronment is encountered......:o)

I consider all engine blocks owned by the uninvited on my property to be target fodder. Tresspassers may drive onto my land but they will walk off to waiting LEO's if they are lucky. This guy should get hisself a backhoe to dig a little suprise just inside his fence line if those speeding oh dark thirty trucks drive thru em. Landscaping is still legal last I looked. Scrap metal from wrecked trucks, rewards from the contraband found abandoned etc etc will pay for the efforts quite well. Also as a lasts resort the proper application of the three "S" rule would stop this crap IMHO.

Stay Safe !

21 posted on 03/20/2004 1:45:44 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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This guy lives pretty close to the US Army Intelligence school ... there's thousands of soldiers, SIGINT stuff all over the place, and (more relevantly) the Border Patrol keeps a blimp up there with spy cameras 24/7 watching for illegal immigrants. Too bad that, with all that, a private citizen has to resort to force to defend his home from foreign aggressors.
27 posted on 03/20/2004 2:19:03 PM PST by Caesar Soze
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"We kind of suspect that their reaction is to his firing on them," said Rod Rothrock, a commander with the Cochise County Sheriff's Department. "You could always expect violence to instigate violence."

He said his deputies have increased their patrols nearby. "We will do the best we can, but we're obviously not in a position to post a guard there," he said.

They can make more money escorting the drug shipments. No wonder they don't want the local homeowners shooting at their well-paying friends.

40 posted on 03/20/2004 4:29:46 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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"The Border Patrol's job was made more difficult by Kozak's forbidding them to enter his land, said Tucson Sector spokesman Andy Adame."

So just what, exactly, do you think the Border Patrol's job IS, then, Mr. Adame? Taking payola (geetus) from the drug smugglers?

43 posted on 03/20/2004 4:46:39 PM PST by nightdriver
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Good luck Mr. Kozak!
44 posted on 03/20/2004 6:40:51 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Let them eat amnesty)
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Now, I would like to hear from the Bushbots who seem to think giving amnesty to illegal aliens is somehow going to put an end to things like this.

Somebody?

Anybody?

53 posted on 03/21/2004 2:28:10 PM PST by Houmatt (Seal the frickin' borders already!)
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