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Baby boomers can't let go of the past and look to the future
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 3/20/04 | Ruben Navarrette Jr

Posted on 03/20/2004 8:26:56 AM PST by qam1

DALLAS -- No one can ever accuse baby boomers of having an inferiority complex. In the 1960s and early '70s, their mantra was: "Don't trust anyone over 30.'' Now it has become: "Don't listen to anyone under 40.''

As a 36-year-old, I got a taste of that this week following an appearance on National Public Radio. Invited to be a guest on "The Diane Rehm Show," I argued that the presidential election should be about the war on terrorism and the war in Iraq -- not the war in Vietnam. I maintained that the personal decisions that John Kerry and George Bush made as young men are not as relevant as the political decisions the two have made since Sept. 11, 2001. And, I said, the fact that so many middle-age Americans -- in both parties -- seem intent on using this election to re-fight the Vietnam War is more evidence that the baby boom generation craves the spotlight and enjoys nothing more than talking about itself and its experiences.

That didn't go over well with another guest on the show -- David Halberstam, Pulitzer Prize-winning Vietnam-era journalist and best-selling author of The Best and the Brightest. Halberstam insists that, when it comes to Vietnam, it matters -- even now -- who went and who didn't. He said that those who went to Vietnam tended to, upon their return and for the rest of their lives, "do more reading." And become more engaged in world affairs.

I don't know about that. President Bush didn't go to Vietnam and he's not known to be much of a reader. But, after 9-11, I would say he's pretty engaged in world affairs.

Halberstam also drew comparisons between what happened in Vietnam and what is happening now in Iraq. He said there's enough "historical resonance'' between the two conflicts to "raise again the question of whether absolute American military superiority can be undermined by the political undertow of a country with a very difficult cultural, historical background'' -- one that includes having lived through a "colonial past.''

As opposed to, say, the United States, which started out as 13 colonies? As long as we're poring over history books, why not start at the beginning? Besides, does anyone out there really think that the administration set out to "colonize'' Iraq?

That's nuts. The fact that polls show a majority of Americans still support the war -- even if they question the way it has been managed -- suggests that most people see the conflict for what it is: an extension of the war on terror and an attempt to neutralize what National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice has called "strongholds'' where terrorist outfits like al-Qaida could find support.

And how did my opinions go over with the NPR audience? Well, judging from the 100 or so angry e-mails, I would say, like the proverbial lead balloon.

Some self-identified baby boomers seemed to want to send me to my room with no milk and cookies.

One letter ended this way: "I suggest that Mr. Navarrette and his Gen X buddies miss an episode of 'Friends' and go visit the Vietnam Memorial in [Washington] D.C.''

Another suggested: "Crack a book now and then. Those video games are bad for your eyes.''

And another said of her cohorts: "I'll admit mistakes. Apparently, we raised a generation of self-indulgent people with no sense of history.''

That's the thing with baby boomers -- such a high opinion of themselves, such a low opinion of everyone else.

Self-indulgent people. No sense of history. These are the same things that, 30 years ago, members of the World War II generation said about baby boomers. How they were self-centered, spoiled and soft, and that they knew nothing of sacrifice and making do with less especially compared to those who lived through the war and the Great Depression.

At least one letter writer hinted as much: "Unfortunately for people my age, there's a group of people older than we are who fought World War II . . . and they've never forgiven us for 'losing' in Vietnam. Those older veterans disrespected the veterans of my era from the get-go. I'm hoping that'll end this year [with a Kerry victory].''

And I bet you thought this election was about where the country is headed. Nope. For some, it's about where we've been. It's about redemption and second chances for a generation that feels like it never got the respect it deserved and which now can't bring itself to respect the generations that follow it.

Now, if you will excuse me, I think "Friends'' is about to start.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: babyboomers; genx; navarrettejr; vietnam
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To: WASH; qam1
Every generation has its share of clymers. Bill Clinton was born in 1946. So was George W. Bush. Some folks grow up early, some grow up late, and some never grow up.

As I watch anti-war protests of today, I see people in their 70s, 60s, 50s, 40s, 30s, 20s, and teens. And last time I checked, Robert Byrd is not a boomer. But he is a clymer. Major league, at that!
41 posted on 03/20/2004 11:57:54 AM PST by auboy
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To: qam1
Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1982)

OK, I'm filing a demographic complaint.

Whenever I see the '65-'82 Gen-X category, I get grumpy, because it throws me into the tail end of the Baby Boomer category. My parents are certified Baby Boomers, both born in '47. But then somehow I'm a Baby boomer, too?? How did that happen? Is it possible to be the same generation as one's own parents?

I remember a time when my generation was called the Baby Busters. There were Baby Boomers, then Baby Busters, followed by Generation Xers, but somewhere along the line the Baby Busters got divided in "half" with almost 65% of us being lumped in with the Baby Boomers and the rest thrown in with Generation X. Then, the Baby Buster label was transfered to also mean Gen-Xers.

Sorry, about ranting over something so seemingly nit-picky, but I really, really, hate being called a Baby Boomer. I had Farrah Fawcett hair in high school for Pete's sake! How could I possibly be a Baby Boomer?

42 posted on 03/20/2004 12:02:17 PM PST by schmelvin
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To: qam1
So the delusional dems think the Viet Ets are on their side? I guess they have no way of knowing. I quit listening to NPR 15 years ago.
43 posted on 03/20/2004 12:03:36 PM PST by js1138
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To: radiohead
Tell me about it. The other day another web site posted a picture of me, but not without the guy who runs the site asking me to "Take it back, take it back!" It reminded me of the old joke about a man going in to join a lonely hearts club only to be told, "We're not that lonely."
44 posted on 03/20/2004 12:22:58 PM PST by Mike Bates (Artist Formerly Known as mikeb704.)
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To: monkeywrench
Scary but true!!!
45 posted on 03/20/2004 1:22:11 PM PST by netmilsmom (Jonathansmommie's daughter was born 3-11-04, both home today!)
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To: qam1
If we let go of the past, there won't be much of a future.
46 posted on 03/20/2004 1:29:51 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: schmelvin
Generation Jones
47 posted on 03/20/2004 2:47:07 PM PST by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: qam1
Honestly, I think both generations need better spokesmen or representation. The loud Boomers seem to be idiots like John Kerry and Bill Clinton. George W. Bush is a much better representative. A real man.
Then there's my generation. I am married and have four children, yet sometimes feel years older than some of the people my own age. I know a single 34 year old who still whines about the "rich Republicans", while he's still making $10 or $11/hr. at a data entry job. Never realizing that money isn't going to just fall into your lap. He has yet to take responsibility for life instead of just whining about it. I'm sure that's how a lot of Boomers must see us. Not to mention the airheads that like to say "Dude" a lot.
I know I am repeating myself, but we really need better representation.
48 posted on 03/20/2004 2:54:26 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: dogbyte12
Yes, the leftists did stop the Vietnam war, eventually, with the help of the USSR communists who spent tons of money supporting the anti-war movement in the US.
49 posted on 03/20/2004 2:58:42 PM PST by Eva
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To: schmelvin
Sorry, about ranting over something so seemingly nit-picky, but I really, really, hate being called a Baby Boomer. I had Farrah Fawcett hair in high school for Pete's sake! How could I possibly be a Baby Boomer?

Pictures please!! (I hope yer a girl!)

All us Baby Boomers thought Farrah was quite a FOX!

(I was born 1959)

50 posted on 03/20/2004 2:59:49 PM PST by RaceBannon (John Kerry is Vietnam's Benedict Arnold: Former War Hero turned Traitor)
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To: qam1
I don't know about re-fighting Vietnam, but I sure am spending a lot more on ebay now for the same toys my mom bought me back in the sixties!
51 posted on 03/20/2004 3:01:52 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie
How about Operation, Mr. Potato Head, Twister, Jacks, Mainly I think us Kids of the Baby Boomer Generation liked to create our toys, I remember most kids took Pride in there Bicycles since they put them together....
52 posted on 03/20/2004 3:17:27 PM PST by missyme
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To: qam1
All Boomers eat watermelon and have fuzzy dice hanging from their rear-view mirrors.
53 posted on 03/20/2004 3:19:10 PM PST by Nick Danger (Give me immortality... or give me death.)
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To: qam1
Baby Boomers are very very narsisstic.

They get very offended if younger generations dont worship their values. They think their values were so important and revolutionary they cant imagine that future generations would want to develop their own values based upon their life experiences.
54 posted on 03/20/2004 3:21:31 PM PST by raloxk
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To: schmelvin
Baby Boomers are born between 1944 and 1964 So you have to turn 40 this year to age 60... But the 40's is like the 30's...Most people can count on living in there 90's if you take care of yourself...
55 posted on 03/20/2004 3:23:13 PM PST by missyme
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To: Nick Danger
Watermelon,""" I use to have a boyfriend that ate Mushrooms, Smoked alot of Thai Stick had hair that went to the middle of his back drove a 1969 Souped up Hip Slick and the Coolest Camaro you ever laid your eyes on, Had Woofers and Tweeters loved Traffic and Santana, he's a doctor now and still has long hair....
56 posted on 03/20/2004 3:30:42 PM PST by missyme
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To: qam1
Bump for later.
57 posted on 03/20/2004 3:39:27 PM PST by Springman
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To: HungarianGypsy
I know I am repeating myself, but we really need better representation.

I agree, So far all we have is "Friends" and the reality shows (At least in the 80's we had Micheal J. Fox on Family Ties) as our representatives. Besides a few in State Legislators here and there I don't know of any Gen-Xer in high political office and unfortunately that's going to be the case for awhile as the Baby Boomers will refuse to give up power and there is too many of them to dislodge.

58 posted on 03/20/2004 4:13:34 PM PST by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: GrandMoM
We actuallly have a large segment of population (Gen. X & Y )that couldn't imagine giving without getting, sacrificing out of obligation, suffering out of responsibility, or following through out of honor. Dr. Laura Schlessinger

Then who is fighting and dying right now in Afghanistan & Iraq?

59 posted on 03/20/2004 5:04:54 PM PST by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: qam1
Well, it was an NPR audience wasn't it? Who in their right mind listens to Diane Rehm? And for Halberstam, it's always Viet Nam - it was the high point to his career.

60 posted on 03/20/2004 5:07:54 PM PST by Rummyfan
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