KERRY RETREATS FROM HIS DENIAL ON VIETNAM MEET - Evidence Puts Him At Kansas Parley

New York Sun ^ | Mar 19, 2004 | JOSH GERSTEIN

[Jim_Curtis]

Wow! If this is true then Kerry will be forced to end his presidential bid. Which Democrat do you think the delegates will choose to take his place? A good choice would be Bob Kerrey since they can still play the hero card ( legitimately at that ) and they would just need to draw in an "E" on all the Kerry signs.

[VadeRetro]

VVFW

Vietnam Veterans of Foreign Wars? "VVAW" (What matter me?)

[Jack Black]

Well well, Kerry vs. Buckley on Firing Line. That really really needs to be rebroadcast on Fox about 10 times in the week before the election. Calling Brit Hume !

[LS]

"Mr. Nicosia said it is clear that Mr. Kerry and the others resigned because of the extreme actions the group was considering."

Nope the REAL news is that "Effing" Kerry was in ANY WAY associated with these lunatics. Let's see if that gets reported.

[Dolphy]

Reading from an FBI informant report, Mr. Nicosia said, “John Kerry at a national Vietnam Veterans Against the War meeting appeared and announced to those present that he resigned for personal reasons but said he would be able to speak for VVAW”

He was there, he wasn't there. He spoke, he didn't speak. He didn't know about the plan but he voted against it. He quit VVAW but remained available to speak for them.

It must be hard to be John Kerry. I wonder if he takes motion sickness medication to help with the effects of flip flopping.

[jwalburg]

I thought someone posted a photo of Kerry watching Nixon on TV yesterday that captioned him as the head of VVAW in 1973.

[expatpat]

“John Kerry had no personal recollection of this meeting

A meeting where the assassination of US senators was discussed and voted on? You've got to be kidding!

[syriacus]

I hate to disabuse everybody, but this is a non-starter

Not if people realize he was a coward or a lazy bum for not reporting the plot to the authorities.

This is one more example of Kerry running away from something difficult. Kerry is great at rebelling, but can't seem to do anything positive.

[kennedy]

I hate to disabuse everybody, but this is a non-starter. He was present at the meeting, he spoke and voted against it, then resigned.

I think the reason he has always denied that he was at the meeting is that he knew of a terrorist plot to assassinate U.S. Senators and did not report it.

[mass55th]

How does one not recall they were at a meeting where the assassination of Senators was discussed? What a lying POS.

[pointsal]

Yeah...Kansas City....in fly-over country

[LS]

"If this is true then Kerry will be forced to end his presidential bid."

Since when? If he learned at the feet of Der Schlickmeister, rightly or wrongly he will conclude that NOTHING he has done in the past can harm him so long as his "positions" are "correct." I'll make this prediction right now: no matter what happens to "Effing" Kerry, he will not withdraw, and Hillary will not run except as, possibly, a Veep.

[ModelBreaker]

I hate to disabuse everybody, but this is a non-starter. He was present at the meeting, he spoke and voted against it, then resigned. It spins as "Kerry, man of principle".

Actually its not a non-starter when viewed as a coverup. Remember what got Nixon. There was never any evidence that he had anything to do with the Watergate burglary. But he participated in the coverup.

Kerry first denies having been there. When evidence comes out that he was, he finally remembers being there but says he has no recall. His pitch will be 'I resigned because of it.' But how can he not recall why he resigned from the organization that he founded and was the whole jumping off point in his career. An organization to which he devoted his life--especially when that reason was the assasination of US Senators.

There's probably more shifts in position to come. But if he sticks to the "I don't remember" spot, his credibility is thin thin thin. It's pretty obvious what's going on. If he says he now recalls after having thought about it, does that mean that assasination of US Senators is such an unimportant topic to him that his memory had to be jogged and rejogged?

Given his other mealy mouthed waffling depending on which way the winds are blowing this minute--which the president is starting to drive home to the voters--this could turn into a big issue. Not that he supported assasination, but that he lied about and admitted only to what he thought folks would catch him on.

I used to practice law and I loved cross-examining witnesses with this particular character trait. They thought they were smart enough to lie selectively and to stay ahead of a well prepared attorney. They always goofed up.

[cripplecreek]

As my friendly local democrats are telling me. "theres no point in fixating on what happened 30 years ago" My response has something to do with fixating on dental record of 30 years ago.

[Swamp path]

It may be a non starter but I do believe if you are present at a meeting where assassinations of political figures or indeed anyone is discussed, you may be required by law to report it. Any lawyers here?

[mtbopfuyn]

...a top aide to Mr. Kerry said that the Massachusetts senator and presumptive Democratic presidential nominee was “absolutely certain” he was not present when the assassination plan, known as the “Phoenix Project,” was discussed.

Oh, like he was absolutely certain he formally resigned two days before or sometime during the summer verbally quit for some forgotten reason, and met with world leaders or had conversations with some leaders, or did vote yea before voting nay? If the world situation wasn't so serious, this guy would be funny.

[syriacus]

I thought someone posted a photo of Kerry watching Nixon on TV yesterday that captioned him as the head of VVAW in 1973.

See: Kerry Still Called Himself The Head Of VVAW In January 1973 Boston Globe ^ | March 19, 2004 Posted on 03/18/2004 11:26:44 PM EST by Hon

[sirshackleton]

Whether or not Kerry was at the meeting doesn't matter a whole lot, unless he personally suggested assassinating some US Senators (or gave the green light for such a program, etc). But even if he had nothing to do with the meeting whatsoever, what needs to be hammered home continually is that Kerry was in leadership (and the public face of such groups) positions in a group that would even consider such a thing.

[Forrestfire]

It does not say he resigned. It says that he resigned as a "National coordinator"

[blanknoone]

It spins as "Kerry, man of principle".

I agree that is the way the media will spin it, but I think middle America says to itslelf, "What the heck was doing with that bunch in the first place?"