***Breaking*** Kerry Continued to Represent the VVAW after November, 1971

WinterSoldier.com ^ | 03/18/2004 | Interesting Times

[Interesting Times]

March 19, 2004 -- **BREAKING** WinterSoldier.com has obtained solid evidence that John Kerry continued to represent the VVAW well after the infamous November 12-15 1971 meeting at which that organization voted on whether to commit political assassinations. See our new "So when did John Kerry leave the VVAW, anyway?" links in the Documents, Film Clips, Audio and Cartoons section.

For example, the New York Times identified Kerry as "spokesman for Vietnam Veterans Against the War" in this article on January 11, 1972. In fact, as late as April 22, 1972, Kerry was still being identified in press reports as a "leader of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War."

Senator Kerry says he quit the VVAW sometime before November 12, 1971.

Senator Kerry has some explaining to do.

[Hon]

You seem determined to stalk me.

BTW, wasn't Mojo banned for defending GHWB from charges that he was at the apex of the CIA's drug cartel and that that was why all of the wars since WWII had been fought?

That Mojo?

Also BTW, how's Conniesaliar? And Demedici? Still getting around? LOL

[Judith Anne]

Hon, there is so much information posted here in a month that you HAVE to realize that anybody can get anything.

You aren't the only one who can think around here, and your apology doesn't mean diddly to me. YOU WRECKED THIS THREAD, AND I WAS INTERESTED IN IT.

You can't undo what you did, your childish behavior is out there for everyone to see, and you have NO credibility. You peed all over the place, and now you say, "sorry" but it's as phony and insincere as Kerry EVER was.

I won't forget you, for this.

[Judith Anne]

Still making snide remarks? You don't care about the Kerry story at all. That much is clear from your posts.

[Hon]

"YOU WRECKED THIS THREAD, AND I WAS INTERESTED IN IT."

Huh? Are you serious? What else did you think was going to happen in this thread?

"I won't forget you, for this."

Well, I'm going to try to forget you as fast as I can.

[PhilDragoo]

And I'm sorry I hijacked a thread with such a silly question as to where the material came from.

What is apparent is that you hijacked the thread.

What is also apparent is that, rather than being sorry, you seemed to enjoy it.

[faithincowboys]

Oh, yes it is. We should all be active in getting this out. Kerry hasn't changed--that's important. America can't afford him anywhere near the white house-- he is a danger and a disgrace.

[Judith Anne]

This thread was fine until YOU WRECKED IT. Take a few minutes and check that out.

[PhilDragoo]

We should all be active in getting this out. Kerry hasn't changed--that's important. America can't afford him anywhere near the white house-- he is a danger and a disgrace.

Roger that.

He has been a consistently anti-defense, anti-intelligence, anti-American influence.

He is fit for the lowest level of Hell, not the highest office in the land.

[Hon]

What is apparent is that you and Judith think hijacking a thread is more heinous than say hijacking someone's story that they had researched and hoped to sell for money. (And once again for the slow amongst us: "I'm not talking about myself.")

Please, post a few hundred more times about how I destroyed this thread. It certainly is a much worse crime than say burning one of the very few reporters or outlets who are willing to put into print stories that don't fit the liberal bias.

For the record I am now leaving the thread. Eventually the moderators will get around to removing all of my posts probably anyway--while leaving the insulting and slandering ones to me in place. Such is the reward for a good deed in a naughty world, I guess.

But I will check back--and mind you, I expect great things from you and Judith and the rest on this thread. I can't wait to see where it is going to go without my burdensome presence!

[Bob J]

Maybe you should stick to the work at a hand and quit targeting Network members.

[Eva]

Look guys, this is a silly argument. We are all on the same side. It is obvious that there are many people working on the same story and the sources of information are probably the same veterans because they are the only ones who know the truth. These veterans are probably talking to multiple people unless someone paid them for an exclusive story. If that's the case someone better just say it.

[Future Useless Eater]

>>the protest at which where Kerry also told bogus tales of war crimes to the Senate.

I'd like to put it...

"Committed a felony by giving false testimony to the Senate,
(in addition to slandering all heroic Vietnam servicemen still fighting for our country)"

OR

"Committed a felony by failing to report all names and details
of known war crimes"

[Judith Anne]

So, is the thread unlocked?

[Interesting Times]

"Committed a felony by failing to report all names and details of known war crimes"

Reading the testimony from the Winter Soldier Investigation, it's obvious that the witnesses were extremely careful *not* to allege anything that could easily be verified or disproven. There are virtually no instances where names, dates and locations are available on these supposed atrocities.

It seems unlikely that this could have been an accident.

[PhilDragoo]

Thanks to chance33_98, I am able to present this proof Jong Foo Kerry met with foreign leaders.

[PhilDragoo]

It seems unlikely that this could have been an accident.

These "witnesses" made themselves scarce when the investigation was conducted, and would not provide details.

[The Shrew]

It seems unlikely that this could have been an accident.

These "witnesses" made themselves scarce when the investigation was conducted, and would not provide details.

The "Witnesses" were told by Kerry and the VVAW to NOT cooperate with the Senate Investigation or the FBI.

Isn't that known as "obstruction of justice"?

Regards,

TS

[PhilDragoo]

Reading the testimony from the Winter Soldier Investigation, it's obvious that the witnesses were extremely careful *not* to allege anything that could easily be verified or disproven. There are virtually no instances where names, dates and locations are available on these supposed atrocities.

Doonesbury and the Winter Soldier

But strangely, all those horrific accounts of rape, torture, arson and slaughter that the VVAW had recorded in Detroit seemed to evaporate once the real investigation demanded by Senator Hatfield began. As recounted in Guenter Lewy's 1978 book “America in Vietnam,” few witnesses agreed to talk with military investigators, even after being assured that they would not be asked about their own crimes. Many of those who did permit interviews turned out never to have been in combat. Some of the most gruesome claims came from men who were imposters using the names of real Vietnam veterans. One Marine who had been in combat eventually told investigators that a member of the Nation of Islam had helped prepare his statement, and admitted that he had never witnessed any of the atrocities he had testified to in Detroit. In the end, the Navy was unable to verify any of the hundreds of war crimes alleged by the Winter Soldier Investigation. Neither has anyone else during the 33 years since, including journalists, historians, and military and Congressional investigators.

[Interesting Times]

Poetry. Sheer poetry...

[PhilDragoo]

Isn't that known as "obstruction of justice"?

It's deja vu all over again.

Cue Mitch Ryder with "Devil In A Blue Dress".

Refresh:

1) Kerry won't release military records which would prove he self-cited his five awards and lacks witnesses to support them;

2) Kerry fraudulently separated to beat it back to the world;

3) Kerry thereupon uttered serial blood libel on two and a half million better men than he;

4) Kerry won the war for the Communists by helping to turn the American people against the containment of those Communists;

5) Kerry participated in a conspiracy to assassinate members of the U.S. Senate;

6) Kerry was derelict in failing to report to proper authority said conspiracy;

7) Kerry knowingly conspired with other imposters to lie about atrocities, and to deceive duly appointed Federal investigators;

8) Kerry continues to lie about the status of his membership in and leadership of the VVAW to this day.