Clean-up in aisle four!
Posted on 03/17/2004 9:33:04 PM PST by little jeremiah
Dear Freepers,
A fellow Freeper alerted me to another discussion board, wherein the leftist/deviants are advising one another to register at Free Republic in order to pose as Christians, with the purpose of promoting homosexuality in a subversive manner, thereby disrupting Free Republic.
Here are a few comments, just so that you will be on the alert for this sort of thing: (if I may be so bold):
I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 32 03/17/2004 @ 06:09PM
Hey....I've never done it but stumbled across a conservative board and created a character of a right-wing intolerant born-again Christian zealot. It's amazing how many people love me there. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. You create a character which you believe is preposterous and find out there are 100's out there like it. Use words like Rosie in an abomination and the posts of approval you get. I'm trying to figure out if somehow I can turn this into a good thing.
RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:10PM
LOL that's crazy OP (j/k)
RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:11PM
easy... just string them along for a few months, then let loose and tell them how you REALLY feel! Of course you'll be banned immediately, but with any luck you'll create so much mistrust among them that the board will fall apart. Good luck!
RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:13PM
Use your persona to ask how you as a Christian can reconcile hating gays with eating shrimp, per Leviticus.
RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:13PM
Nah, you get them to like you and know you, and then you start injecting some common sense here and there, like how you just cannot support government intrusiveness into the bedroom, and how it's just Democrat-like "Big Government" to think the government should solve all the social problems, and to just let the market decide, and that no churches would ever or should ever be compelled to perform gay marriages, but that you believe in freedom of religion in this country as a founding principle, so people should be able to choose to burn in hell or not, and that Bush shouldn't be forcing that choice on them. Stuff like that. I'm sure you can figure out a way to slowly, subtly get some stuff in there. Lots of good fodder in the whole budget big-government thing too.
RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:14PM
Start raging about sodomites and anal sex like they do, and gradually make it sound more and more erotic.
RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:14PM
6:11's idea is good, plus waiting will give you time to get used to how the board is moderated, and when would be the optimum time to reveal your true self when you don't expect any deleting moderators around for a while.
RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:15PM
I'm on my 2nd subversive character at Lucianne.com It's fun in a way, but I can only take those people in small doses. They really are toxic.
Well, shame on New York then. I would hope New Yorkers weren't bringing their kids out to watch. Still, I don't think masturbating gay parade marchers are coming to Tullahoma, Tennessee any time soon. There's a lot of hand wringing going on by people who don't live in New York or San Francisco about an issue they'll mostly likely never see personally.
I think we conservatives need to change our language. It's not the "traditional" concept of marriage. Traditions are just that, as Tevye found out. It is the correct and natural concept of marriage. Any concept other than one man and one woman for life is a perversion on the correct and natural concept.
Shalom.
I, for one, would not.
I saw a video of a Gay "pride" parade once upon a time. It made me sick.
It may be old news, and they may have become smarter than to ever do that again, but if they are still doing that I do NOT want to see any pictures.
Shalom.
That wouldn't happen to have been from a Bob Knight/James Dobson/Pat Robertson fundraising package would it? "Send me $100 right now to help fight this menace!"
They sure do count on the reactionaries to fill the coffers.
Let me try in basic non-sarcastic mode and see if I can get the message across better:
All law regulates behavior. The purpose of law is to decrease objectionable behaviors (that is, those behaviors that are harmful to society such as murder, child molesting, and homosexual behaviors) and to increase good behaviors (such as marriage between one man and one woman, working for a living, and respecting property rights)
Using the law to enforce good behavior is as old as law itself and is the only way for any society to survive.
Pretty simple concept actually. So we do have the right, in fact we have the duty, to tell people that certain behaviors (such as murder, child molesting and homosexual behavior) are harmful to society and won't be tolerated and to encode those 'tellings' into law.
Yes
child molesting
Yes
and homosexual behaviors
No. The first two cause actual harm to an innocent other person, the last does not.
You have a very subjective and self-serving definition of "harm". If homosexual behavior causes harm to society, then by your definition so does fast food, tobacco, and alcohol. If you want to open the doors to that kind of big nanny government dictating that bad behavior is illegal, you certainly aren't a big fan of living in a 'free republic'.
Funny thing about that. The same men that established this Republic had no problem with the separate and sovereign states establishing laws condemning and prosecuting homosexuals. And I'm quite sure considering what they went through to establish this Republic they were quite big fans of living in a 'free Republic'
Oh, Good Job, td. I learned that one from the Dimocrats too.
Conservative: Hey, there's a videotape of some perverts doing absolutely disgusting stuff in a parade on public streets.
Dimocrat: Don't pay any attention to the evidence you see with your own eyes. They guys who sent you that videotape were only after your money.
It's not about why the tape was created, it's about the fact that the event(s?) happened to be videotaped.
And I don't want to see such pictures on FR. It's bad enough people keep posting pictures of Janet Reno.
Shalom.
You're right about that. The last one does harm to an entire culture. But don't worry about that, td. The effects probably won't hit until you are dead. And that's all that matters to you, isn't it?
Shalom.
[You, replying] No. The first two cause actual harm to an innocent other person, the last does not.
Sorry, but homosexual behavior does, in fact, cause harm to other persons not in the room, i.e. to the wider society. This is why the political gays went nuts in the early 80's, because they (and everyone else) realized that it was homosex that was spreading AIDS -- specifically, sodomy. Their response was to anathematize anyone who so much as thought of the right answer to the public-health threat: quarantine, or at a minimum, strong measures to discourage the kind of promiscuous anal sex that was propagating AIDS through the San Francisco bathhouse scene, men's rooms, public parks, and gay bars.
Whatever was done to protect gays from being infected by other gays, gays couldn't bear the burden or be "singled out". Instead, the threat was deliberately diffused, de-focused, and glossed over, and the result was ineffectual public health policy that killed gay men in the hundreds of thousands. I know personally at least three men who died of it.
Then there's pederasty, which politically audible gays (with two lonely exceptions I know of, Camille Paglia and Tammy Bruce) have refused to swear off. That is totally unacceptable. So, for the same reason, is the "saturation" spoken of by GLSEN types with respect to immersing kids in this stuff.
Sometimes, as when Kitty Genovese lay dying on a street in New York, turning away is the indecent thing to do.
Sorry, but that is not actual harm in the same sense that murdering or molesting someone is. Maybe to you it is, but see if your definition of harm flies in a court of law. Try suing all known homosexuals for "degredation of society." Good luck with that. Noble as your convictions may be, your point is not made valid by your unwillingness to discern the meaning of "actual harm".
And let's admit it, your mention of the AIDS problem is really only a pretext to denigrating people you don't like and disagree with culturally. What if your neighbors were a same sex couple who were completely free of STDs and remained monogamous. You wouldn't have any problem with them? I'm certain you would. So let's be done with the "societal harm" facade.
Well, even a broken clock is right twice a day. On this one, it seems the Dims know how these politico-evangelists work. Nothing brings in the cash like cultural fearmongering.
And curiously, you never did answer the question about the source of this tape. So that leads me to believe it probably was from some Christian right fundraising package. Tell me I'm wrong and I'll drop the subject. But I suspect I've hit the nail on the head.
That's because it's immaterial. You don't seem to care that the events happened. And my comment was that I don't want to see pictures of it on FR. Not that the authors of the tape were right or wrong.
You seem to want to ignore the perversion. That's fine. But don't ask for it to be posted on FR.
Shalom.
No. The first two cause actual harm to an innocent other person, the last does not.
You have a very subjective and self-serving definition of "harm". If homosexual behavior causes harm to society
If the person who molested me had never been molested then he would have never molested me. Homosexuality is a contagious disease caused by mental trauma (usually molestation). If you break the cycle of molestation then there will be a decreasing number of homosexuals and a decrease in the social burden (health and moral) that they cause. According to the "Gay report" (Unfortunately I've not been able to find an online version and the book itself cost over $40) 73% of homosexuals have molested children under the age of 18. The greatly increased risk of child molestation by those who also practice homosexual behavior is enough to outlaw this deviant behavior by itself. (Crime statistics also show a far greater percentage of molestations by people who also practice homosexual behavior)
Law regulates morality. Always has, always will. Homosexual behavior is the same as murder, theft or child molesting as it is a behavior contrary to the founding morals of this country.
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