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Incoming pro-gay troll alert!
self | march 17 2004 | little jeremiah

Posted on 03/17/2004 9:33:04 PM PST by little jeremiah

Dear Freepers,

A fellow Freeper alerted me to another discussion board, wherein the leftist/deviants are advising one another to register at Free Republic in order to pose as Christians, with the purpose of promoting homosexuality in a subversive manner, thereby disrupting Free Republic.

Here are a few comments, just so that you will be on the alert for this sort of thing: (if I may be so bold):

I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 32 03/17/2004 @ 06:09PM

Hey....I've never done it but stumbled across a conservative board and created a character of a right-wing intolerant born-again Christian zealot. It's amazing how many people love me there. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. You create a character which you believe is preposterous and find out there are 100's out there like it. Use words like Rosie in an abomination and the posts of approval you get. I'm trying to figure out if somehow I can turn this into a good thing.

RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:10PM

LOL that's crazy OP (j/k)

RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:11PM

easy... just string them along for a few months, then let loose and tell them how you REALLY feel! Of course you'll be banned immediately, but with any luck you'll create so much mistrust among them that the board will fall apart. Good luck!

RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:13PM

Use your persona to ask how you as a Christian can reconcile hating gays with eating shrimp, per Leviticus.

RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:13PM

Nah, you get them to like you and know you, and then you start injecting some common sense here and there, like how you just cannot support government intrusiveness into the bedroom, and how it's just Democrat-like "Big Government" to think the government should solve all the social problems, and to just let the market decide, and that no churches would ever or should ever be compelled to perform gay marriages, but that you believe in freedom of religion in this country as a founding principle, so people should be able to choose to burn in hell or not, and that Bush shouldn't be forcing that choice on them. Stuff like that. I'm sure you can figure out a way to slowly, subtly get some stuff in there. Lots of good fodder in the whole budget big-government thing too.

RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:14PM

Start raging about sodomites and anal sex like they do, and gradually make it sound more and more erotic.

RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:14PM

6:11's idea is good, plus waiting will give you time to get used to how the board is moderated, and when would be the optimum time to reveal your true self when you don't expect any deleting moderators around for a while.

RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:15PM

I'm on my 2nd subversive character at Lucianne.com It's fun in a way, but I can only take those people in small doses. They really are toxic.


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To: tdadams; EdReform; scripter; mrustow; veronica
[tdadams] Sorry, but that is not actual harm in the same sense that murdering or molesting someone is.

Sorry, I thought I explained that people died.

What counts as "harm" to you?

>......see if your definition of harm flies in a court of law.

Most LEO's and grand juries get pretty sticky about dead people, even if they were, in the immortal words of Stevie Winwood, "shot dead by a gun that didn't make any noise." London police got very horsey about some young queer men who announced that they were HIV-positive and intended to spread it around, in particular to MP's, barristers, judges, and similar persons.

Try suing all known homosexuals for "degredation of society." Good luck with that.

Nice straw man. Where did you get him? An HRC posting seminar?

Noble as your convictions may be, your point is not made valid by your unwillingness to discern the meaning of "actual harm".

I'll let your statement stand like that, and let the world marvel, that your definition of "actual harm" doesn't include contagion and death -- two of the Four Horsemen.

And let's admit it, your mention of the AIDS problem is really only a pretext......

Oh, here we go -- come on, chihuahua, I want to hear you say "PHOBE PHOBE PHOBE!!!"

Funny how you keep telling people you're a foursquare conservative, but as soon as your hauteur is punctured and your fallacies of distraction penetrated, you whip out your razor blade like a Salon snap queen and start impugning people's motives vindictively, discounting moral teachment and a sense of public hygiene to nothing more than bias and bigotry.

Well, bias it is -- and so is a police detective's bias against gunplay in the street by armed knuckleheads -- but your accusation of outright bigotry "masquerading" (your precise smear) as morality or anything other than black dishonor is pure drama-queen finger-pointing and argumentum ad hominem -- the very, very most favoritest tactic of the homofascists.

So why are we supposed to think you're a conservative, again?

121 posted on 03/20/2004 2:54:45 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: lentulusgracchus; ArGee; John O
Pinging........

And thanks for the moral support.

122 posted on 03/20/2004 2:57:09 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: John O
Logic states that a person known to perform behavior which is highly concurrent with molestation cannot be trusted

From personal notes taken during a University of Houston distance lecture on pedophilia, the recidivism rate for pedophiles, regardless of orientation, is approximately 100%. This is true for both "preferential" and "situational" pedophiles -- the latter being the occasional opportunists, most usually mature, heterosexual, married men. These occasional offenders account for the bias in the stats toward heterosexual (90%) and male offenders. The really busy and determined peds are either gay pederasts or member of a small group of aggressive peds, the kind who join NAMBLA, to put it bluntly, and who (as it was found out recently in Houston) like to find each other and group together near schools or daycare centers.

123 posted on 03/20/2004 3:06:44 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: ArGee
You ask me how I know the new "lumber" will work, and I say "there's no reason why it won't." You ask me if I have built any houses with this lumber before and I say, "No, I want to use your house to prove it can work."

Gays like to try to put the shoe on the hets' foot, by asserting rights not in evidence, and accusing the hets of standing over them and forbidding them their inalienable Ninth-Amendment rights. As if there were such a thing as a Ninth-Amendment right that survived deliberation and process of law: the Ninth Amendment merely guarantees you the freedom to do anything that isn't expressly illegal.

Gays love to try to force the other side to "prove" that gay marriage won't work (knowing that things that haven't been tried yet have no track record by which to judge them), and to palm off a strenuous assertion of rights foully denied by mean people as a substitute for argument and support.

124 posted on 03/20/2004 3:14:49 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: GraceCoolidge
but with any luck you'll create so much mistrust among them that the board will fall apart

Yeah, right, on a board with an average of thirty-five hundred daily posters? That's like farting in Grand Central Station.

125 posted on 03/20/2004 3:29:12 AM PST by stands2reason ( During the cola wars, France was occupied by Pepsi for six months.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Sorry, I thought I explained that people died.

Don't be thick. Do you want me to believe you don't have the intelligence to understand what I've written. If someone is killed by a drunk driver, is it the driving that's primarily to blame for their death or the drunkeness? Homosexuality itself doesn't kill anyone. Having irresponsible sex and getting AIDS does. Not everyone who's homosexual gets AIDS and dies in case you didn't know.

Funny how you keep telling people you're a foursquare conservative

You seem to have the same affliction many others here have, you seem to read what you expect to read, not what I've actually written. Please do me the favor of pointing out where I've told anyone I'm a "foursquare conservative". I've stated exactly what I am, a libertarian fiscal conservative. Nothing more, nothing less.

So why are we supposed to think you're a conservative, again?

Because conservatives are in favor of smaller, less intrusive government? Or they're supposed to be anyway. So let me ask you the same - why are we supposed to think you're a conservative. Fascist seems more like it.

So far, you've said nothing legitimate to support your point of view. You've only spent too many superfluous words denigrating my points with invalid logical fallacies. Brush up, man. You make Freepers look bad.

126 posted on 03/20/2004 3:52:58 AM PST by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: John O
John, John, John. You've picked such a bad analogy. When you're in a hole, man, stop digging.

when was the last time that the consumers of fast food, tobacco or alcohol filed suit against someone for saying that these things were evil?

Hmm, Oprah... beef. That comes to mind.

When did they last force the schools to preach that [fast food, tobacco, and alcohol] were to be celebrated

They don't have to, the message is so ubiquitous you don't even notice anymore. They sell junk food and soda in vending machines in the schools. Kids are assaulted with McDonald's commercials several times an hour. They see beer commercials that tell them life will be one adventure after another and they'll attract beautiful women if they drink brand X.

This is getting tiresome. You have your axe to grind. I guess that gives you some purpose in life.

127 posted on 03/20/2004 4:01:15 AM PST by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: John O
While monogamy is the accepted pattern and majority practice for mentally healthy people (hetersexual) promiscuity is the pattern for the vast majority of mentally diseased (homosexual) people whether they are in a 'monogamous' relationship or not.

Are you posting this from your own conjecture, from what you've heard from others, or do you have some numbers?

Here's a number for you, according to the National Opinion Research Center in Chicago, the most conservative estimate of marital infidelity is 21% of men and 13% of women. Other studies show marital infidelity rates as high as 75% among certain demographics.

What was it you were saying about heterosexual fidelity?

128 posted on 03/20/2004 4:09:57 AM PST by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: John O
Read scripter's databse.

You read and believe whatever supports your existing conclusion. Likewise, if you're for the war on drugs, you believe the studies published by the Office of National Drug Control Policy. If you're against it, you believe the studies published by the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws.

Their conclusions completely contradict each other, but if you have a position to support, somewhere you can find the statistics to support it.

129 posted on 03/20/2004 4:13:49 AM PST by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: Rocky; All
I just visited this site, and left them a little message to chew on:

Well, whaddayaknow - a leftist discussion board which considers sowing doubt through half-truths and false self-representation to be a bona-fide tactic, all in the name of moderation.

You folks are caricatures... in claiming to be "moderate" and "honest"; in avowing yourselves to be "tolerant"... you base your actions using the very same sort of discordance you claim to stand against. You are so tolerant, that you will use lies in condemning those of a different viewpoint. And, since everybody knows that you are right, it follows therefore that my opinion must be wrong.

There's a phrase that aptly describes people who resort to this "constructive thought process": I call you "Hegel's Whores".

Hypothesis - Antithesis - Synthesis, leading to a new hypothesis... Nothing really matters, because nothing is really perfect... the ends justify the means. Oh, and I say these things to you with the full knowledge that you are all Ubermenschen, especially compared to us hayseeds from fly-over country. Where would we be without you???

From a real Freeper, who stands here and calls you what you are - the Tories of the 21st century.

FreepThis

"God is Dead" - Nietsche
"Nietsche is dead" - GOD

130 posted on 03/20/2004 4:49:01 AM PST by CGVet58 (God has granted us liberty, and we owe Him courage in return)
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To: CGVet58
You're right. They operate on The End Justifies the Means. They are so sure that they know what is best for us, despite all evidence to the contrary, that they are willing to use any tactics (lying, deception, subversion) to get their way.

They are so detached from reality that they actually imagine that they can turn the world upside down and that they themselves will be able to go through the whole thing unscathed. From their safe, warm cocoons, they support a monster which, when it is full grown, will eat them.
131 posted on 03/20/2004 8:52:25 AM PST by Rocky
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To: tdadams
Don't be thick.

You said you're a "libertarian", right? Is that what libertarians do, going around declaiming to people in the imperative mood? LOL -- I'm impressed!

Do you want me to believe you don't have the intelligence to understand what I've written.

No, I don't want you to believe anything you don't want to. Rave on, dude.

If someone is killed by a drunk driver, is it the driving that's primarily to blame for their death or the drunkeness? Homosexuality itself doesn't kill anyone. Having irresponsible sex and getting AIDS does. Not everyone who's homosexual gets AIDS and dies in case you didn't know.

Time out for a fact break -- gays are promiscuous, pal. Not all gays; you can point to pairs here and there. But the bathhouse scene was notorious, if you'd bothered to look at scripter's links that you show no signs of having read for comprehension, you would be very sadly aware of a) the actual numbers of sexual partners that gay men who are part of the parks-and-pickups scene have consistently reported to credentialed investigators, b) the prevalence of this kind of activity in AIDS hotspots like 80's San Francisco, and c) the resolute purblindness of the gay community themselves to the need to actually do something about the rate at which they were infecting each other.

The promiscuity was part of being "in The Life", and so AIDS is indeed, in every meaningful way, a very, very gay disease.

132 posted on 03/20/2004 9:38:35 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: gonzo; Rocky
Wonder who the Freeper was who posted his great defi to the DemonLoungers today on the Lounge thread you linked to? "Freep This", indeed!
133 posted on 03/20/2004 11:09:42 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: tdadams
Please do me the favor of pointing out where I've told anyone I'm a "foursquare conservative".

Well, maybe I hastily inferred it from the post above where you told someone you weren't a liberal or gay troll.

Checked your Freeper page, and -- my bad. You're a fiscal conservative + social libertarian = a liberal who knows how to add.

134 posted on 03/20/2004 11:13:22 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Look at Reply 130 in this thread.
135 posted on 03/20/2004 11:55:37 AM PST by Rocky
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To: little jeremiah
(from the words of one of the putative trolls)
Use words like Rosie in an abomination and the posts of approval you get.
I'm trying to figure out if somehow I can turn this into a good thing.


Hasn't this been a recurring plot on major network TV situation comedies for some years?

Like the current joke goes...
Q: How does a teenager gently break the news to the parents about being gay?

A: "Mom, Dad...I want to move to West Hollywood and write scripts for
situation comedies."
136 posted on 03/20/2004 12:02:53 PM PST by VOA
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To: little jeremiah
BOTOX and MINOXIDIL, not just for breakfast anymore...


...................Before......................................After

137 posted on 03/20/2004 12:13:18 PM PST by null and void (Don't stand idly by and watch your country commit Hairy Kerry!)
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To: lentulusgracchus
"You're a fiscal conservative + social libertarian = a liberal who knows how to add."

ROFL! Bravo... I never heard this one before, and I like it!

Qwinn
138 posted on 03/20/2004 12:17:29 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: CGVet58
Good man!

May I light your cigar? Bring you a drink? How about a newspaper?

Well done, their site is Freeped!

139 posted on 03/20/2004 12:18:09 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: VOA
You have freepmail...
140 posted on 03/20/2004 12:23:12 PM PST by null and void (Don't stand idly by and watch your country commit Hairy Kerry!)
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