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Ferret: why I'm alarmed by FR & will never post here ever again (except for my 9 replies & counting)
Originally posted elsewhere ^ | 2004-03-08 | Michael Joseph McCarthy

Posted on 03/16/2004 4:38:03 AM PST by bicycle thug

Edited on 03/16/2004 5:17:47 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Mod update: To put this "opus" in perspective, some additional information compliments of a thorough FReeper, dighton.

From a Kerry in 2004 Meetup page, via google cache:

bicyclethug (Eugene, OR)

I am Michael Joseph McCarthy, well known forest activist in Eugene, Oregon who ran against Scott Meisner for City Council last election. I am a Member of the Pacific Green Party who wants this scoundrel in office now thrown out.

72 posted on 03/16/2004 5:05:43 AM PST by dighton


Begin "opus":

Fascism in Free Republic manifests itself as extreme ideology that celebrates themselves as solely representing the nation as an organic community transcending all other loyalties. It emphasizes a myth of national rebirth after a period of decline or destruction. Liberalism is the prime keyword to represent the "problem" group causing the "decay and disruption of "proper" American life.

The FR reminds me of the typical fascist call for a "spiritual revolution" against signs of moral decay such as individualism and materialism, and calls to purge "alien" forces and groups that threaten the organic community. Fascism tends to celebrate masculinity, mystical unity, and the regenerative power of violence. Often, but not always, it promotes racial superiority doctrines, ethnic persecution, imperialist expansion, and genocide. At the same time, fascists may embrace a form of internationalism based on either racial or ideological solidarity across national boundaries. Usually fascism espouses open male supremacy, though sometimes it may also promote female solidarity and new opportunities for women of the privileged nation or race.

FR's call to purge Liberalism and to install a conservative only lifestyle in these United States is not realistic under the auspices of the U.S. Constitution which is designed for all groups of all types and classes to be protected from the domination and authority of the dominant group.

The FR calls for the establishment of a dominant group - their brand of Conservatives - that keeps all the others in line including conservatives "who don't think right on various topics. The virtual community has degenerated into a witch hunt for any and all "untrue thinkers," who must be purged at all costs.

FR's approach to politics is both populist--in that it seeks to activate "the people" as a whole against perceived oppressors or enemies - and elitist - in that it treats the people's will as embodied in a select group, or often one prime iconic leader whose authority flows downward only. FR, in typical Fascist style seeks to organize a cadre-led mass movement in a drive to seize state power. It seeks to forcibly subordinate all spheres of society to its ideological vision of what a community is, and the end result of their game is totalitarianism, pure and simple.

Both as a movement and a regime, fascism uses mass organizations as a system of integration and control, and uses organized violence to suppress opposition, although the scale of violence varies widely. FReepers unethically disrupts polls, hacks and disrupts other sites, and uses real or perceived disruption by others of their site as a rallying point to drive home a wedge between them and any group not belonging to the FReeper movement to reshape America.

Fascism is hostile to Marxism, liberalism, and even true conservatism, yet it borrows concepts and practices from all three. Jim Rob's blend of conservatism and use as advocacy of George W. Bush to insure that the right thinkers who know how to follow orders stay on board builds an obedience and cohesion to central authority. He wishes to create an entity that can influence people like Bush to fall into sync with his goals by offering an effective vehicle to mobilize and control people on the grass roots level as he has proved to people like the President that he indeed can do things like galvanize and grow the Klamath water rights for farmers issue.

JimRob is shrewd, he wishes to influence those in higher office and at the same time remold the electorate into a cohesive force that can roll over any group that gets in it's way in a very unconstitutional fashion.

The FR exploits real grievances against capitalists and landowners through ethnic (or in the Free Republic's case the classic homosexual wedge issue) scapegoating or radical- sounding conspiracy theories. They reject the liberal doctrines of individual autonomy and rights, political pluralism, and representative government, yet it advocates broad popular participation in politics and may use parliamentary channels in its drive to power.

Its vision of a "new order" clashes with the conservative attachment to tradition-based institutions and hierarchies, and much like fascism, they often romanticizes the past as inspiration for national rebirth.

Fascism always has had a complex relationship with established elites and the non-fascist right much like the FR does. It strives to be not a mere puppet of the ruling class, but an autonomous movement with its own social base. In practice, they defend capitalism against instability and the left, but also they pursue an agenda that sometimes clashes with capitalist interests in significant ways.

I have watched and studied the FR with going horror as this culture has grown more malignant and horrifying over the years. Any and all peoples and nations are vulnerable to the disease of fascism, and thought I am sure JimRob and company started with the best of intentions, over the years they have cognitively grown more hostile and unreasonable to anyone not of an elite brand of FReeper. The road to fascism is so incremental it sneaks in and decades later people always wonder how the heck it happened. And it is happening at that particular virtual community, make no mistake about it.

I have always wanted to see the FR grow up. Journalism in these United States was reactionary and lacked accountability in the early years of our nation and as it evolved it was forced to grow up. I want the FR to flourish and to grow up ethically and responsibly, with a measure of respect and empathy for those other groups that blend with them to form our great nation.

But it hasn't, and it has grown into an entity quite alarming. If FReepers care and act now, they can take back a precious jewel of a forum bought and paid for by them that fills an important need in their lives.

If this doesn't happen, we will crush the FR and remove it like a malignant tumor before it destroys what we collectively hold dear; The United States of America as we know it with our Constitution as is works now with it's checks and balances there to prevent Fascist and totalitarian entities from taking us and the world on the road to incredible destruction and human misery.

. This is a critically important topic, and people have leadership and intuitive skills that can either debunk me, or develop tools to reform FR and make it responsible and ethical as it should be. I don't hate and nurse disdain for the Free Republic, I deeply care and want the best for FReepers. And it hurts deeply and horribly to articulate my thoughts and fears here, as FReepers are indeed special people who do not deserve to be used, and to have bad things happen to them, or to be manipulated to cause bad things to happen to others.

Peace, and respect to all.


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To: dirtboy
Your being eaten ALIVE!


181 posted on 03/16/2004 5:48:35 AM PST by Dallas59
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To: Bluntpoint
LOL!

I got halfway out of my chair to head for the OED, then thought . . . nah!

You got me for about 10 seconds, anyhow. "I be used to bein' put upon, Mus' Midmore, but you got me . . . you got me."

182 posted on 03/16/2004 5:49:19 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment ) TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. . .)
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To: dighton
I am Michael Joseph McCarthy

So ferret is also a Kerry campaign activist?

183 posted on 03/16/2004 5:49:20 AM PST by DonaldDuke
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To: bicycle thug
I would never torch someone else's private - or public - property....If this doesn't happen, we will crush the FR and remove it like a malignant tumor

You have a bit of a contradiction to work out here.

184 posted on 03/16/2004 5:49:32 AM PST by dirtboy (Howard, we hardly knew ye. Not that we're complaining, mind you...)
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To: bicycle thug
If I understand this correctly (your anti-fascist rant made no sense and completely missed defining the basic tenets of fascism) you're a Green Party member.

If anything mirrors the domestic fascism of Hitler, it's the Green Party and its more visible older brother, the democrats.

The basic tenet of fascism can be boiled down to one sentence - state control of private property. That is the goal of the Green Party, America's nascent, nature worshipping fascist cult.

ps - send us photos of you tree-sitting in Mr. Red Cedar or dancing naked around oaks so we can write cutlines.


185 posted on 03/16/2004 5:49:51 AM PST by sergeantdave (Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
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To: bicycle thug
Greens are so much against progress that they would rather African starve than eat genetically modified food. Hardly surprising though when the same Greens think that AIDS is a good remedy to the problem of Africa's "unsustainability." Even Greenpiece is being taken over by anti-immigrant population control freaks

I think maybe you might feel more comfortable at this organization:


CLICK ME

186 posted on 03/16/2004 5:50:05 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Bluntpoint
What is he? The human tripod of posters?

Nah, he's just got really short legs.

187 posted on 03/16/2004 5:50:17 AM PST by dirtboy (Howard, we hardly knew ye. Not that we're complaining, mind you...)
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To: bicycle thug
Swallow some Draino and make a video. We'll put it on pay-for-view streaming video and send Nader some of the proceeds.
188 posted on 03/16/2004 5:51:07 AM PST by johnny7 (“Mommy... mommy... MOMMEEEE!!”)
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To: Dallas59
While I hate Hillary as much as the next guy, posting her gynecological pictures on this forum is pretty tasteless!
189 posted on 03/16/2004 5:51:11 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: bicycle thug
It's kind of weird that you accuse FR of being elitist in such a condescending post.
190 posted on 03/16/2004 5:51:36 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: bicycle thug
Tree Spikers are terrorists.
191 posted on 03/16/2004 5:52:05 AM PST by bert (Have you offended a liberal today?)
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To: Lazamataz
I bash Bush and his policies a bunch, and I haven't been banned (yet).

I rather liked ferret, too, but he held one position that overrode all other positives and, as far as I'm concerned, placed him in the "shoot on sight" category. A salient part of his philosophy is that human life is no more valuable than animal life.

Don't tell me he doesn't; I discussed it with him.

192 posted on 03/16/2004 5:52:26 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: bicycle thug
Fascism tends to celebrate masculinity, mystical unity, and the regenerative power of violence. Often, but not always, it promotes racial superiority doctrines, ethnic persecution, imperialist expansion, and genocide. At the same time, fascists may embrace a form of internationalism based on either racial or ideological solidarity across national boundaries. Usually fascism espouses open male supremacy, though sometimes it may also promote female solidarity and new opportunities for women of the privileged nation or race.

This thread is intended to foster diolog in any event.

Your opus [wink] uses every big word in the book, yet you cannot spell dialogue? Hope you'll pardon me while I doubt your authorship. Ain't cut 'n paste great?

193 posted on 03/16/2004 5:52:39 AM PST by Coop ("Hero" is the last four-letter word I'd use to describe John Kerry)
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To: BadAndy
That is a superb and insightful post.

I watch with amazement as the leftists quickly drift leftward out to sea, all the while screaming that the lighthouse on shore is moving to the right.

If I can make it fit, that will be my next tagline. Well said.

194 posted on 03/16/2004 5:54:02 AM PST by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: dirtboy
Did the old nun tell him to stop wiggling his toes or he will go blind?
195 posted on 03/16/2004 5:54:33 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: bicycle thug
The Gaia spaceship is leaving port. Be sure to buckle up :^)
196 posted on 03/16/2004 5:55:53 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: bicycle thug

Opus.

197 posted on 03/16/2004 5:56:36 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Hey John F'in. Kerry, why the long face?)
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To: bicycle thug

Ah, so now the anarcho-faeries are obediently and obeisantly bowing down to the fascists who are only out to stomp on everyone's neck, eh? Are you sure your name isn't Todd?

198 posted on 03/16/2004 5:56:51 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: bicycle thug
I'm just a Pit bull on the pant leg of opportunity.

Not trying to be cute, but your tagline might be more accurate if it read: I'm just a Pit bull peeing on the pant leg of opportunity.

199 posted on 03/16/2004 5:57:30 AM PST by jigsaw (Your Choice America: Stand Tall With Bush or Bend Over With Kerry.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
I never wanted to leave the Free Republic, and would abide with the rules in every way in every respect as I have as Bicycle Thug since I sign up for the account if allowed to stay.

Jim Robinson banned me in March 2000 after some admittedly foul posts made while I was mortally angry at AOL's Steve Chase and company killing my old primary forum of residence.

I never was able to get an answer to any of my E mailings to him to try to make amends and to reestablish myself as an interlocutor here.

This is only an opus in that I finally realized I was being a hypocrite in my series of accounts here, regardless of how unjust the ban, regardless of my intentions.

If he were to allow me to stay, I would. But at this point, it is solely up to him to make that decision.

It is my responsibility to respect his decision if he decides that there is no place at all here for me.

The last thing I ever want to be is a disruptor, and believe it or not, despite my venting of the spleen here, I actually still respect him and know damn well part of this posting is engendered by a build-up of shear rage at not even being given the courtesy of a response as to why I was not welcome.

He is shrewd and smart, and is to be commended for his business savvy and abilities to create Free Republic. I wish him long life and prosperity regardless of my anger, and regardless of the words here expressing my deepest fears.

200 posted on 03/16/2004 5:59:05 AM PST by bicycle thug (I'm just a Pit bull on the pant leg of opportunity)
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