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Mark Steyn: The Spanish dishonoured their dead
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 03/16/04 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 03/15/2004 4:14:39 PM PST by Pokey78

"When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, naturally they will like the strong horse." So said Osama bin Laden in his final video appearance two-and-a-half years ago. But even the late Osama might have been surprised to see the Spanish people, invited to choose between a strong horse and a weak horse, opt to make their general election an exercise in mass self-gelding.

To be sure, there are all kinds of John Kerry-esque footnoted nuances to Sunday's stark numbers. One sympathises with those electors reported to be angry at the government's pathetic insistence, in the face of the emerging evidence, that Thursday's attack was the work of Eta, when it was obviously the jihad boys. One's sympathy, however, disappears with their decision to vote for a party committed to disengaging from the war against the jihadi. As Margaret Thatcher would have said: "This is no time to go wobbly, Manuel." But they did. And no one will remember the footnotes, the qualifications, the background - just the final score: terrorists toppled a European government.

What was it all those party leaders used to drone robotically after IRA atrocities? We must never let the bullet and the bomb win out over the ballot and the bollocks. Something like that. In Spain, the bombers hijacked the ballot, and very decisively. The Socialist Workers' Party wouldn't have won, except for the terrorism.

At the end of last week, American friends kept saying to me: "3/11 is Europe's 9/11. They get it now." I expressed scepticism. And I very much doubt whether March 11 will be a day that will live in infamy. Rather, March 14 seems likely to be the date bequeathed to posterity, in the way we remember those grim markers on the road to conflagration through the 1930s, the tactical surrenders that made disaster inevitable. All those umbrellas in the rain at Friday's marches proved to be pretty pictures for the cameras, nothing more. The rain in Spain falls mainly on the slain. In the three days between the slaughter and the vote, it was widely reported that the atrocity had been designed to influence the election. In allowing it to do so, the Spanish knowingly made Sunday a victory for appeasement and dishonoured their own dead.

And, if it works in Spain, why not in Australia, Britain, Italy, Poland? In his 1996 "Declaration of War Against the Americans", Bin Laden cited Washington's feebleness in the face of the 1992 Aden hotel bombings and the Black Hawk Down business in Somalia in 1993: "You have been disgraced by Allah and you withdrew," he wrote. "The extent of your impotence and weaknesses became very clear." To the jihadis' way of thinking, on Thursday, the Spaniards were disgraced by Allah; on Sunday, they withdrew. The extent of their impotence and weaknesses is very clear.

Or, as Simon Jenkins put it in a hilariously mistimed cover story for last Thursday's Spectator arguing that this terrorism business is a lot of twaddle got up by Blair and Bush: "Bombs kill and panic the panicky. But they do not undermine civilised society unless that society wants to be undermined." And there's no chance of that happening, right?

Jenkins's argument, such as it is, is that a bomb here, a bomb there, nothing to get your knickers in a twist about: that's one thing we Europeans understand. But what he refuses to address is the shifting facts on the ground.

Europe's home-grown terrorism problems take place among notably static populations, such as Ulster and the Basque country. One could make generally safe extrapolations about the likelihood of holding Northern Ireland to what HMG used to call an "acceptable level of violence".

But in the same three decades as Ulster's "Troubles", the hitherto moderate Muslim populations of south Asia were radicalised by a politicised form of Islam; previously broadly unIslamic societies such as Nigeria became Islamified; and large Muslim populations settled in parts of Europe that had little or no experience of mass immigration.

You can argue about what these trends mean, but surely not that they mean absolutely nothing, as Sir Simon and the Complaceniks assure us: nothing to see here, chaps; switch back to the Test and bring me another buttered crumpet; when Osama vows to avenge the "tragedy of Andalucia", it's just a bit of overheated campaign rhetoric, like Kerry calling Bush a "liar", that's all.

For the non-complacent, the question is fast becoming whether "civilised society" in much of Europe is already too "undermined". Last Friday, for a brief moment, it looked as if a few brave editorialists on the Continent finally grasped that global terrorism is a real threat to Europe, and not just a Bush racket. But even then they weren't proposing that the Continent should rise up and prosecute the war, only that they be less snippy in their carping from the sidelines as America gets on with it. Spain was Washington's principal Continental ally, and what does that boil down to in practice? 1,300 troops. That's fewer than what the New Hampshire National Guard is contributing.

The other day, the editor of Le Monde, writing in the Wall Street Journal, dismissed as utterly false the widespread belief among all Americans except John Kerry's campaign staff that France is a worthless ally: "Let us remember here," he wrote, "the involvement of French and German soldiers, among other European nationalities, in the operations launched in Afghanistan to pursue the Taliban, track down bin Laden and attempt to free the Afghans."

Oh, put a baguette in it, will you? The Continentals didn't "launch" anything in Afghanistan. They showed up when the war was over - after the Taliban had been toppled and the Afghans liberated. And a few hundred Nato troops in post-combat mopping-up operations barely registers in the scale against the gazillions of Americans defending the Continent so that EU governments can blow their defence budgets on welfare programmes that make the citizens ever more enervated and dependent.

The only fighting that there is going to be in Europe in the foreseeable future is civil war, and when that happens American infantrymen will want to be somewhere safer. Like Iraq. There are strong horses and weak horses, but right now western Europe is looking like a dead horse.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: election; madridbombing; marksteyn; marksteynlist; spain
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To: Dog Gone
Wonder why they didn't do that?

Maybe some legality in their parlimentary structure.

That is an idea, we should add some clause to our election laws for an automatic postponement for a fixed time period if some foreign force trys this kind of terror tactic to influence our elections!!

61 posted on 03/15/2004 5:41:13 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I think it makes sense. Such a law might be subject to abuse if not written correctly because it could be manipulated for political advantage.

Spain is going to have buyers' remorse. I sense that. But without a mechanism to postpone a scheduled election, I don't think there's much choice. Such a law would have to be carefully written and until 9/11 it was totally unneeded.

62 posted on 03/15/2004 5:47:58 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: omniscient
'But I don't understand the reference to civil war."

Me either. I think that France and even England are going to become Islamic states just by them both finding themselves overwhelmed buy a majority Islamic population...then come the arms secretly shipped in and vo-wah-la...the Islamofascists take over and rule and enslave or murder those that will not convert to Islam.

63 posted on 03/15/2004 5:59:07 PM PST by KriegerGeist ("For the weapons of our warfare are not fleshly, but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds")
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To: Geist Krieger
Exactly. When I look at the combination of demographics and non-existent immigration controls, I don't see how this isn't inevitable. We are living at the tail end of the golden age of civilization, before the return of the barbarian hordes.
64 posted on 03/15/2004 6:08:25 PM PST by omniscient
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To: nutmeg
bttt
65 posted on 03/15/2004 6:11:50 PM PST by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F’in Kerry)
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To: My2Cents
I think the reference to civil war in Europe is to the inevitable clash between a growing Muslim population and traditional Europeans

That still doesn't explain it...it takes two sides to fight. I ain't seen no, and don't see no signs of, fight in the Euroweenies. There won't be a fight...just a surrender ceremony. Quite possibly after a vote like the one we just witnessed.

Ironically, Serbia will likely be the last bastion of Christianity in Europe. While I don't approve of the way they dealt with the Muslims, they're the only ones who recognize the threat and are willing to fight. The only possible addition is the Poles. Both nations have a long history of resistance to Islamic invaders.

66 posted on 03/15/2004 6:14:23 PM PST by blanknoone (At least the Spanish socialist party call themselves socialists.)
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To: Pokey78
There are strong horses and weak horses, but right now western Europe is looking like a dead horse.

BUMP!

67 posted on 03/15/2004 6:17:25 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: foreshadowed at waco
A very good analysis.

However, the PP was predicted to have a very handy win, and I'm sure they would have, because the Iraq war flap had basically died down, the economy was great, and for the first time since 1898 (when Spain lost Cuba to the US), Spain felt good about itself.

I think people actually had shifted their position and were agressive about confronting terrorism, and if the election had been held a week later (that is, postponed), most Spaniards would have come to their senses. But they were grabbed by the Socialists immediately and intimidated, particularly with the rent-a-mob scenario of Saturday night/Sunday morning, and they never had a chance.

I think they're regretting it even as we speak.

And I think this is something that we have to keep in mind for November here in the US.
68 posted on 03/15/2004 6:23:58 PM PST by livius
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To: Pokey78
I've been expecting to read Steyn's comments. He does NOT disappoint. Excellence, pure excellence.

Prairie
69 posted on 03/15/2004 6:24:16 PM PST by prairiebreeze (America will CONTINUE to fight for and defend freedom. Even Spain's.)
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To: Pokey78
I very much doubt whether March 11 will be a day that will live in infamy. Rather, March 14 seems likely to be the date bequeathed to posterity, in the way we remember those grim markers on the road to conflagration through the 1930s, the tactical surrenders that made disaster inevitable

Ah, yes. He's right. The Spanish terror attack could have been their 911, but instead the election was their Munich.

70 posted on 03/15/2004 6:24:34 PM PST by irv
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To: Dog Gone
Spain is already having buyer's remorse.

But unless the Socialists can't form a coalition to govern, they're stuck with Zap and friends. What a nightmare.
71 posted on 03/15/2004 6:25:54 PM PST by livius
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To: blanknoone
That still doesn't explain it...it takes two sides to fight. I ain't seen no, and don't see no signs of, fight in the Euroweenies.

They won't fight the Islamists. They'll fight each other. The European Union grows stronger every day, and every day different factions (such as France and Germany) search for ways to ensure that it serves only their interests.

Look for the EU to collapse in Civil War inside 10 years. And don't expect them to be "civilized" about it. It will be interesting to see how many Islamic revolutions take place during the chaos.

72 posted on 03/15/2004 6:31:00 PM PST by irv
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To: Scenic Sounds
This is about so much more than Iraq. It's mind-boggling to consider that folks don't understand that....

Prairie
73 posted on 03/15/2004 6:35:21 PM PST by prairiebreeze (America will CONTINUE to fight for and defend freedom. Even Spain's.)
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To: Pokey78
There are strong horses and weak horses, but right now western Europe is looking like a dead horse.

Great quote. Anybody but me a little worried about the end of October 2004? Just before our elections?

74 posted on 03/15/2004 6:38:17 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: Pokey78
bump and thanks!
75 posted on 03/15/2004 6:39:00 PM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: livius
I think they're regretting it even as we speak.

I've been wondering if that might be setting in. Do you see this possibly translating into the new Socialist party taking a stronger stance against terrorism, Iraq, etc. instead of, well, being the wimps they've demonstrated so far?

Prairie

76 posted on 03/15/2004 6:39:51 PM PST by prairiebreeze (America will CONTINUE to fight for and defend freedom. Even Spain's.)
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To: Pokey78
This is what John Kerry wants for America: Gutless wonders pleading for mercy from Islamic fascists who are not about to grant Mercy.
77 posted on 03/15/2004 6:42:30 PM PST by Ramonan (Compare the Circumstances)
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To: Pokey78
OUCH! Put some ice on it, Euromocos. This has to be a Mark Steyn top 10 column.
78 posted on 03/15/2004 6:43:20 PM PST by wimpycat ("The road to the promised land runs past Sinai."-C.S. Lewis)
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To: irv
Look for the EU to collapse in Civil War inside 10 years.

I'd wager against that. Seriously, the worst of the EU is too wimpy to even fight. The can't we all get along mentality of the Scandanavian nations is spectacular.

I think the EU might collapse, but it won't be for military reasons.

79 posted on 03/15/2004 6:45:32 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Pokey78
OK; The Noble People of Spain have "Opted Out of" the WAR against the International Terrorists!

SO BE IT!!

IF Madrid is rendered "Radioactive Waste,"--it's THEIR Problem!!

"America" NOW OWES "Spain,"--PRECISELY NOTHING!!

IF--"God Help Us,--The "Terrorists" attempt to Destroy "Spain," They can ONLY HOPE that "America" will Care to Help Them.

80 posted on 03/15/2004 6:45:38 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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