Kerry camp hiring 'assassin'? (Man who plotted murder of congressmen offered job)

World Net Daily ^ | March 15th, 2004

[Sabertooth]

A Vietnam veteran who plotted to kill members of Congress in 1971 is reportedly ready to accept a position working in the presidential campaign of John Kerry.

Leaders of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, including John Kerry, debated a plot to assassinate congressmen in November 1971, according to a report in the New York Sun.

The Kerry campaign denies the senator and presidential candidate was present at the meeting, saying he quit the organization prior to the heated session in Kansas City, Nov. 12-15, 1971.

However, Randy Barnes of Missouri Veterans for Kerry, disputes that account. Barnes participated in the meeting and he says Kerry, then 27, was at the meeting, voted against the plot and then resigned from the organization. According to the Sun report, another Vietnam vet who attended the meeting, Terry Du-Bose, agreed that Kerry was there.

That the VVAW debated killing members of Congress is not a new revelation. The plot was reported in Gerald Nicosia's 2001 book, "Home To War," that one of the key leaders of the organization, Scott Camil, "proposed the assassination of the most hard-core conservative members of Congress, as well as any other powerful, intractable opponents of the antiwar movement." The book reports on the Kansas City meeting at which Camil's plan was debated and then voted down.

In a cover blurb on the book, Kerry said it "ties together the many threads of a difficult period." Kerry hosted a party for the book in the Hart Senate Office Building that was televised on C-SPAN, according to the Sun.

Camil, never prosecuted for the plot, plans to accept an offer by the Florida Kerry organization to become active in the presidential campaign, according to the report. Camil's plot, involving eight to 10 Marines, targeted the Southern senatorial leadership including John Stennis, Strom Thurmond and John Tower.

Kerry's service in Vietnam and his activities after the war have become a major source of controversy – especially with other Vietnam veterans.

Last week, one of his crew members accused him of cowardice and making strategic mistakes in battle. The testimony of Steven Gardner, a gunner's mate on the first patrol boat commanded by Kerry in the Mekong delta, contradicts accounts of the senator's military career that depict him as a brave and aggressive lieutenant who won three Purple Hearts.

"He absolutely did not want to engage the enemy when I was with him,'' Gardner said in an interview with the Boston Globe. "He wouldn't go in there and search. That is why I have a negative viewpoint of John Kerry."

Gardner has refused to join the tight-knit group of Vietnam veterans who are passionately supporters of their former comrade's White House bid.

Kerry is said to be "angry'' about the slur.

[Bedford Forrest]

"Stennis and Thurmond lived to be rather old."

Stennis was shot and severely wounded in 1973, in Washington, very soon after the referenced time period. I think he never recovered from the shooting and retired soon afterward.

[FourtySeven]

bumpity

[Sabertooth]

I hadn't seen this connection to Camil before, though it may have already been posted:

"I think those of us who voted for [Nader] in 2000 learned our lesson," said Scott Camil, a Green Party organizer from Gainesville who is backing Kerry. "There's too much at stake this year to vote with your heart and not your head."
Ingredients from 2000 back in Florida mix
State once again may hold keys to the White House
Toby Eckert | COPLEY NEWS SERVICE | March 8th, 2004

[concerned about politics]

I hate national socialism

Socialism is the prelude to Communism. You'd think Spain would have learned a lesson form Hitler and WWII.
Their government schools must be like ours. Keep history silent so it WILL repeat itself.

[tutstar]

bttt

[petitfour]

Stennis was shot? That's news to me. Trent Lott took Stennis' seat in the 80s.

[talleyman]

Well, they have to do this to counteract the "Republican Attack Machine", doncha know? </disgust>

- Proud member, R.A.M.

[petitfour]

Here's a bio of Senator Stennis. He did indeed suffer a gunshot wound in 1973.

http://www.stennis.gov/senatorpage.htm

[dalebert]

Agree. Just how close are Kerry's terrorist ties? Seems like Spains bomb attack was timed perfectly to help a political party with a very large Muslim voting block.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Scott Camil, "proposed the assassination of the most hard-core conservative members of Congress, as well as any other powerful, intractable opponents of the antiwar movement."

Camil, never prosecuted for the plot, plans to accept an offer by the Florida Kerry organization to become active in the presidential campaign,

The DNC doesn't punish traitors, they reward them.

[monocle]

The media is like the Berlin Wall it keeps what it believes is dangerous to its liberal bias out of sight of the public. The media has erected its wall between those seeking public office and the voters, i.e. Dan Rather's gatekeeper rationale. Except for the occasional televised townhall meeting, the media does all the questioning at press conferences and the debates. All avenues for the average voter to question candidates in a televised or widely publicized audience have been foreclosed by the media. Is it any wonder that big media was such a enormous supporter of campaign finance reform?

[Sabertooth]

Thirty-three years ago this winter, more than a hundred Vietnam War veterans from around the United States gathered at a Howard Johnson hotel in Detroit's New Center.

In a second-floor ballroom, before an audience of hundreds of long-haired youths and conservatively dressed older people, the vets confessed to atrocities they claimed to have witnessed or committed in Vietnam, where hundreds of people on both sides still were dying each week.

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Scott Camil of Gainesville, Fla., said in a recent interview that his own testimony surprised him. Camil, a former member of the 1st Marine Division, attracted considerable attention at the event by testifying that U.S. soldiers cut off ears of dead Vietnamese, raped women and eviscerated prisoners.

Winter Solider "changed me from being for the war to being against the war," Camil said.
WINTER SOLDIER: John Kerry's turning point
JIM SCHAEFER | March 2, 2004

[doug from upland]

I just spoke to Toby Eckert. He is now going to look into the background of Camil. Thanks for linking his article.

[OXENinFLA]

Let's hope so.

[OXENinFLA]

Scott Camil

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#342

I posted these the other day. I can't believe this guy is working for Kerry. I wonder how much he's getting paid?

[EQAndyBuzz]

Moveon.org along. Nothing to see here.

[Eva]

John Tower died in a plane crash in 1991ish. Who else was on the list????

I hope that wasn't the same plane crash which killed John Heinz, two weeks after he gave a speech, ridiculing John Kerry for the two letters that Kerry had written to a constituent espousing opposite stands on the Gulf war.

[patriciamary]

Can the president demand airtime? Why not talk plainly and simply directly yo the people Fire side chats????

[patriciamary]

Can the president demand airtime? Why not talk plainly and simply directly yo the people Fire side chats????

[Saundra Duffy]

Unbelievable