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CNS poll: Kerry has a big lead in Illinois But outside Chicago, state is Bush land
pjstar.com ^ | March 13, 2004 | DOUG FINKE

Posted on 03/14/2004 5:06:54 PM PST by KQQL

SPRINGFIELD - Democrat John Kerry would handily defeat President George Bush in Illinois if the election were held today, a new Copley News Service poll shows.

That result may reflect the fact that fewer than half of Illinoisans believe Bush is doing an "excellent" or "good" job as president, according to the same poll. But Kerry also only is ahead of Bush because of huge support in Chicago, a Democratic stronghold.

Mason-Dixon Polling and Research Inc. of Washington, D.C., conducted the poll of 625 registered voters Monday through Wednesday. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

Asked whom they would vote for if the election were held today, 47 percent said Kerry, while 39 percent said Bush. Two percent said they would vote for independent Ralph Nader, while 12 percent were undecided.

The results do not surprise Brad Coker, managing director of Mason-Dixon.

"Illinois is a Democrat-leaning state," Coker said. "Republicans have not carried it since Ronald Reagan. If Kerry is going to have any chance, Illinois is more of a must-win for him than Bush. If you see Bush pull ahead in Illinois, the race is probably over."

As might be expected, Kerry

holds a huge lead, 58 percent to 29 percent, over Bush in heavily Democratic Chicago and Cook County. Ten percent are undecided.

In the once heavily Republican collar counties - Mason-Dixon considers them to be DuPage, McHenry, Lake, Will, Kankakee, Kane, Grundy and Kendall counties - Bush leads, but only by a 48 to 39 percent margin, with 11 percent undecided. Bush leads 45 to 38 percent in central Illinois, with 15 percent undecided. Bush also leads in southern Illinois, 44 to 39 percent, with 16 percent undecided.

Only 46 percent of Illinois voters think Bush is doing an excellent or good job. That is slightly lower than Bush's approval rating in early January, when Mason-Dixon did another poll on Bush's job performance, although the drop is within the poll's margin of error.

"Nationally, if (Bush's) rating is under 50, he'd be a goner," Coker said.

However, because Illinois already is a Democratic-leaning state, Bush's dwindling popularity here is not a serious worry to the campaign, Coker said.

"I wouldn't put Illinois in the battleground category yet," Coker said. "The Republican strategy will be defending the states they won last time and try to pick up a few they narrowly lost."

In the poll, Bush also lost ground on his handling of the war in Iraq and the nation's economy.

In early January, 50 percent of Illinois voters said they approved of Bush's handling of the Iraq war, while 41 percent said they disapproved and 9 percent were undecided. Now, 46 percent of Illinois voters approve of the way Bush is handling the Iraq situation, while the number of undecided has risen to 13 percent. The number of voters who disapprove of Bush's Iraq policy stayed steady at 41 percent.

On the economy, the poll shows that only 41 percent of voters approve of the way Bush is handling the economy. Fully 50 percent disapprove, with 9 percent undecided. Two months ago, 44 percent said they approved of Bush's economic policies, 46 percent disapproved and 10 percent were undecided.

Voters generally said they feel Kerry would do a better job than Bush in handling domestic issues, while they feel more comfortable with Bush when it comes to security issues, both international and domestic.

Asked who would do a better job in handling the economy and unemployment, 42 percent said Kerry, while 34 percent said Bush. Twenty-two percent said they were undecided.

More than half of those polled, 52 percent, said they thought Kerry would do a better job handling issues such as health care and prescription drug coverage. Only 27 percent thought Bush would do a better job, while 18 percent weren't sure.

Kerry again got the nod when people were asked who they thought would do a better job handling education. Kerry was preferred by 44 percent, while Bush was favored by 28 percent. Twenty-five percent were undecided.

Kerry also would better address Social Security issues, the poll found, although by a narrower margin than other domestic issues. The poll revealed that 40 percent of voters think Kerry would do a better job with Social Security, while 34 percent think Bush would do a better job. Twenty-two percent said they weren't sure.

Although support for Bush's Iraq policy is dwindling, voters still think he would do a better job with the situation than Kerry. Asked who would do a better job handling the situation in Iraq, 51 percent of voters said Bush, while 32 percent said Kerry. Sixteen percent were undecided.

Bush was also preferred when the question turned to homeland security and anti-terrorism efforts. By a 54 to 29 percent margin, respondents felt Bush would do a better job than Kerry, although 17 percent were undecided.

Nader didn't score more than 4 percent in any of the categories. Unlike in 2000, Nader is running without a party affiliation this time.

, and there is no guarantee he will be able to meet ballot eligibility standards in Illinois or elsewhere.

"I don't see him as a big factor," Coker said.

With voters split over which candidate they feel could best handle domestic or foreign affairs, events just before the fall election could determine its outcome, said Kent Redfield, a political studies professor at the University of Illinois at Springfield.

"If the situation in terms of international affairs is stable or deteriorating, people are going to focus more on domestic issues," Redfield said. "If, God forbid, there is a terrorist attack in October, then it will be rally around the flag. Events are going to have a big impact."


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2004; polls; thedeadvote
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1 posted on 03/14/2004 5:06:55 PM PST by KQQL
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To: KQQL
Poll: Ryan, Obama hold Senate leads

SPRINGFIELD - The front-runners in the Republican and Democratic races for U.S. Senate from Illinois registered more than twice the support of their nearest challengers in a poll done for Copley News Service.

In the Democratic race, state Sen. Barack Obama of Chicago had 37 percent, while his nearest rival, Illinois Comptroller Dan Hynes, had 18 percent, and Chicago investor Blair Hull was backed by 16 percent. Filling out the field, Cook County Treasurer Maria Pappas had 8 percent, former Chicago Board of Education President Gery Chico had 5 percent, health-care consultant Joyce Washington and radio talk-show host Nancy Skinner each had 1 percent, and 14 percent were undecided.

On the Republican side, Wilmette investor-turned-teacher Jack Ryan had a commanding lead with 45 percent, with businessman Andy McKenna of Glenview at 12 percent, Jim Oberweis of Aurora at 11 percent and state Sen. Steve Rauschenberger of Elgin at 7 percent. Retired Maj. Gen. John Borling of Rockford had 4 percent, former state Rep. Jonathan Wright of Lincoln had 2 percent, entrepreneur Chirinjeev Kathuria of Oak Brook had 1 percent and retiree Norm Hill of Grayslake didn't show up on the chart. Eighteen percent were undecided.


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2 posted on 03/14/2004 5:08:24 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: KQQL
Americans want to follow the Spaniards into oblivion?

What's up with Americans?

Kerry should be run out of town in tar and feathers.

Why are Americans supporting him?
3 posted on 03/14/2004 5:09:41 PM PST by Prodigal Son (Liberal ideas are deadlier than second hand smoke.)
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To: Torie; ambrose
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4 posted on 03/14/2004 5:11:01 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: KQQL
"Illinois is a Democrat-leaning state," Coker said. "Republicans have not carried it since Ronald Reagan.

Not true, in 1988, George #41 easily carried Illinois over another loser from Massachusetts.

5 posted on 03/14/2004 5:11:47 PM PST by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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6 posted on 03/14/2004 5:11:53 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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7 posted on 03/14/2004 5:12:03 PM PST by jwalsh07 (We're bringing it on John but you can't handle the truth!)
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To: KQQL
These poll numbers by IL region are very similar to the 2002 Governor race. They reflect the basic partisan breakdown in IL.
8 posted on 03/14/2004 5:12:54 PM PST by Kuksool
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To: KQQL
I just received an 8X10 autographed picture of our First Lady and our President along with a request for a contribution. The request for money was to fund the President's Illinois campaign and I sent them a check immediately! Anyone else get the same photo today?
9 posted on 03/14/2004 5:13:00 PM PST by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT!)
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To: Prodigal Son
Looks that way in the blue states
10 posted on 03/14/2004 5:13:34 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: KQQL
I don't think Democrats will exactly be crowing over Kerry polling at 47% among registered voters in Illinois after a couple of months of nothing but positive coverage for Kerry and nothing but bad coverage for Bush. Bush's strong performance in the poll in Downstate and fairly strong performance in the Collar Counties makes me believe that Illinois may be competitive in the fall, and if so it would be terrible news for the Democrats. If Bush carries Illinois, it means that he won a 400+ electoral vote landslide (450+ if he also carries California). For Kerry to get to 270 electoral votes, he needs to be able to afford to take Illinois for granted and concentrate on Ohio, Florida and Missouri.
11 posted on 03/14/2004 5:14:53 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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My ugly, fat, liberal sister lives in the Land 'O Lincoln. I can't stand her and refuse to have anything to do with her and her mental illness. I heard through a family member that she beleives McDonald's is responsible for obesity in the US. She also blames Bush for everything that's wrong in her life, including the fact she isn't employed. At the same time, she glories in the fact that she can stay at home with her kids while collecting extension after extension of unemployment. She has no intention of getting a job until she runs out of UE compensation.
12 posted on 03/14/2004 5:15:39 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Charter member Broken Glass Republicans (2000))
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To: KQQL
Im in central Il and once again, Chicago decides for the whole state....
13 posted on 03/14/2004 5:15:58 PM PST by mystery-ak (*The cause of freedom is in good hands*....you betcha, Mr. President!)
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To: KQQL
Looks like that way in the United States.

Many Freepers are anti-Bush. IN other words, pro- Al Qaeda, pro- Kerry.

How do you explain that away?

Conservatives- long time Freepers. Pro- al Qaeda.

What are we going to do? If this doesn't change, in November Spain will look like 'real men' compared to Americans.
14 posted on 03/14/2004 5:16:26 PM PST by Prodigal Son (Liberal ideas are deadlier than second hand smoke.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Your response is predicated on Bush picking up ALL undecided voters in this poll, which is a pretty tall order for an incumbent.
15 posted on 03/14/2004 5:16:52 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Prodigal Son
No surprise.

Illinois should seperate from Cook county. I think of the 9 DEM congressional memebers in IL, only one comes from outside Chicago, Lane Evans and when he retires that seat will be a toss-up.
16 posted on 03/14/2004 5:18:25 PM PST by raloxk
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To: KQQL
>> Illinois is a Democrat-leaning state," Coker said. "Republicans have not carried it since Ronald Reagan <<

Ummm...here's some post-Reagan federal elections

1988 Presidential Election - IL
Bush/Quayle Republican 2,310,939 votes 50.69%
Dukakis/Bentsen Democrat 2,215,940 votes 48.60%

1998 Senate Election - IL
Peter G. Fitzgerald Republican 1,790,041 52%
Carol Moseley Braun Democrat 1,610,496 47%
Don Torgenson Reform 74,704 1%

And if you talk about Republican carrying Illinois statewide in state elections, they've had at least one candidate do so in every election year, including during the Dem landslide in 2002 (although the Dems failed to carry a single statewide office during the GOP sweep of 1994)

IL is very middle of the road. If it wasn't for corrupt RINOs and incompentant party "leaders", you wouldn't see RATs running every office.

17 posted on 03/14/2004 5:19:11 PM PST by BillyBoy (George Ryan deserves a long term....without parole.)
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To: KQQL
I continue to be baffled as to why people believe Kerry would do a better job on economic issues than Dubya. What makes them think this?
18 posted on 03/14/2004 5:19:17 PM PST by squidly (I have always felt that a politician is to be judged by the animosity he excites among his opponents)
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To: raloxk
Jerry Costello represents a district based in East St. Louis (not much of a population center any more) and the Mississippi Valley.

Lane Evans' district was gerrymandered to be safe for Democrats. It didn't used to be that way.
19 posted on 03/14/2004 5:19:33 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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One must also factor in all the votes that Boss Daley will generate from the residents of Chicago's cemeteries.
20 posted on 03/14/2004 5:19:46 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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