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Daschle, administration at odds over forest funds
Rapid City Journal ^ | March 14, 2004 | Bill Harlan

Posted on 03/14/2004 11:37:02 AM PST by Paladin2

Daschle, administration at odds over forest funds By Bill Harlan, Journal Staff Writer

Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota and the Bush administration are at odds over how much money should be spent to thin the nation's forests.

The Senate passed its budget resolution early Friday. It includes a provision Daschle pushed that would spend $343 million more than the Bush administration to remove excess trees, brush and debris from fire-prone forests.

"The Bush administration was wrong to underfund programs designed to protect our communities from the threat of forest fires in the legislation we passed last year," Daschle said in a written statement Friday.

The Healthy Forest Restoration Act, which the president signed in December, called for spending $760 million to thin overgrown forests during fiscal year 2005, which begins Oct. 1.

A top administration official disagreed that the president's budget proposal shorts the forest-thinning budget. "Congress authorized $760 million for the full range of hazardous-fuel reduction activities," Mark Rey said Friday. "Our total is $760.4 million."

Rey is Agriculture Department undersecretary for natural resources and the environment, and he oversees the U.S. Forest Service. He said the administration budget would increase thinning money by $80 million to $100 million over last year.

But Rey and Daschle disagree on how to count money for "hazardous-fuel reduction."

The administration includes money spent for forest thinning in 17 separate budget line items — including the line item called "hazardous fuels reduction." That program includes noncommercial thinning, brush removal and prescribed burning.

In fiscal 2004, the Forest Service will spend $233 million on its hazardous-fuels reduction program. The Interior Department will spend $184 million for its hazardous fuels program.

The two programs total $417 million, which is $343 million short of $760 million. Daschle spokesman Nick Pappas said that is how the Senate arrived at its budget resolution.

The administration argued that other programs — including habitat improvement, watershed restoration and even parts of the Forest Service's commercial timber program — also include legitimate hazardous-fuel reduction activities.

The total of those programs for fiscal 2004, Rey said, was about $681 million. The

administration added about $80 million in new spending to get slightly more than $760 million.

Daschle said the Senate's additional $343 million was needed to fully fund the authorization that he and Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., pushed for in the Healthy Forest Act.

Rey disagreed. "Congress can, obviously, change its mind, but that's not what they wrote," he said.

Rey pointed out that the language of the Healthy Forest Act does, in fact, allow for spending in a range of programs. The act even says some of the money can go to states and tribes for their forest-thinning programs.

Rey added that the administration was not necessarily opposed to spending more money to thin forests, but he warned that if Congress appropriated $343 million more than the administration requested, the Forest Service and various Interior Department agencies likely could not spend it all in fiscal 2005. "I'm quite confident we don't have the physical capability," he said. "It's our judgment that $760 million is what we can and should spend in 2005."

Pappas said Daschle was equally confident that money could be put to good use next year.

The issue might not be settled until early next year, even though fiscal 2005 begins Oct. 1.

Here is what has to happen before hazardous-fuels money gets to the nation's forests.

- The House of Representatives must pass its own budget resolution.

- A House-Senate conference committee will have to iron out differences in the two resolutions.

- The joint resolution will go to various appropriations committees, which will convert general spending goals into specific spending programs.

- More conference committees will resolve differences in those appropriations bills.

- Finally, the appropriations bills go to the White House for the president's signature.

During the past two years, that process has not been completed until well after the first of the year. In fact, officials for Black Hills National Forest expect to get their official fiscal 2004 hazardous-fuels appropriation next week


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: cut; daschle; forest; money; tree
Where's the Sierra Club when you need them to keep 'rats from trying to spend more money and increase the deficit? What is JF'nK's position(s) on the forest trimming program?

Also, note that Daschle is keeping a low National profile while suddenly addressing SD's needs/issues. I'd say he wants to be re-elected.

He needs to have more light shown on him as the elections approach.

1 posted on 03/14/2004 11:37:02 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
Daschle just wants more money to give to his Earth Liberation Front buddies.
2 posted on 03/14/2004 11:40:39 AM PST by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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To: ServesURight
The feds should have to furnish very little funding. Let out contracts for lumber and take the proceeds to pay for the uneconomical areas of brush, weeds , etc.
3 posted on 03/14/2004 11:44:37 AM PST by meenie
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To: Paladin2
The government could be MAKING money on the excess fuel removal by selling permits to private citizens to remove dead wood for personal use. I love visiting Yellowstone, but the massive amounts of dead trees are just disgusting. Allowing visitors to remove a small amount of dead wood would improve the park.
4 posted on 03/14/2004 11:48:45 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
National forests not parks.

You can already get firewood cutting permets for national forests. Chain saws are common.
5 posted on 03/14/2004 11:52:26 AM PST by Dinsdale
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To: Paladin2
I've sent two substantial cash donations to Daschle's opponent, John Thune.

More than anything, I want to see that little troll defeated!!

Send your donations to.....

JOHN THUNE FOR US SENATE
P.O. BOX 3308
SIOUX FALLS, SD 57101

6 posted on 03/14/2004 12:02:03 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: Myrddin
The government could be MAKING money on the excess fuel removal by selling permits to private citizens to remove dead wood for personal use. I love visiting Yellowstone, but the massive amounts of dead trees are just disgusting. Allowing visitors to remove a small amount of dead wood would improve the park.

Unfortunately, existing appropriations laws prohibit the government from "making money" in many if not most instances like this. The DOD for example is not allowed to assess fees in excess of the amount of funds required to administer their "timber harvest" program. Use of excess funds by any DOD entity would constitute appropriation augmentation which is against the law.

7 posted on 03/14/2004 12:14:06 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: farmfriend
ping
8 posted on 03/14/2004 12:19:21 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Paladin2
Daschle need an extra 343 million to buy more indian votes
9 posted on 03/14/2004 12:27:18 PM PST by solo gringo (Always Ranting Always Rite)
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To: Myrddin
Why,why you capitalist you!!
10 posted on 03/14/2004 12:49:09 PM PST by rodguy911
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To: Paladin2
Repubs need to spin..........

After years of underfunding this program under the Clinton Administration that led to loss of property and life..........
Sen. Dashole now believes that more funding is needed to make up for the years of the Clinton Administration's neglect.....

Blessings, Bobo
11 posted on 03/14/2004 1:13:20 PM PST by bobo1
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To: rodguy911
ONLY 343MIL MORE PORK MONEY.
12 posted on 03/14/2004 1:14:16 PM PST by jocko12
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To: Paladin2
Gee, the money has to stay in. Dashole 's wife has taken a large fee to see that it stays in the budget and he has already spent the fee on the pool of his new multi-million dollar mansion in the Washington, DC area. And, once the bag lady has the money, the vote has to go the way she promised. What is in his tax return, anyway?
13 posted on 03/14/2004 1:22:16 PM PST by Tacis
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To: meenie
The feds should have to furnish very little funding. Let out contracts for lumber and take the proceeds to pay for the uneconomical areas of brush, weeds , etc.

For real! And maybe we could get lumber costs back down where they belong while poking a finger in the eye of the anti-capitalist tree huggers. Last week I paid over $18 for a sheet of 1/2" CDX (lowest quality grade) of plywood that a year ago would have cost about 10 bucks. Lumber costs are obscene and they are beginning to have a negative effect on construction.

14 posted on 03/14/2004 1:23:29 PM PST by Morgan's Raider
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To: rodguy911
Why,why you capitalist you!!

Compliments :-) Now, if I can just get that John Galt thing going in Pocatello...

15 posted on 03/14/2004 4:50:23 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Paladin2; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; AndreaZingg; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
16 posted on 03/14/2004 9:12:52 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!
17 posted on 03/15/2004 3:09:12 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Paladin2
The Administration wants to save the forest, Daschelle wants to save the farce.
18 posted on 03/15/2004 8:41:33 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Only a snobbish no class bluenose puke , would refuse to apologize for being an ass..)
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To: Morgan's Raider
Lumber costs are obscene....and they won't get any better soon.

In order to keep the doors open on our wood manufacturing
plant, and our employees working, we are importing birch,
beech and other species from Eastern Europe, Asia and South
America. We would love to buy our lumber locally, but the
Sierra Club and their franchises have all but made that
impossible.

Daschle is VERY unpopular here in western South Dakota.

Unfortunately, our largest city, Sioux Falls, just keeps the blinders on.
19 posted on 03/15/2004 8:58:12 AM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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