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The Paleoconservative Age: They hate W. – from the right. (A paleocon bestiary)
The New Haven Advocate ^
| July 3, 2003
| Joe Miksch
Posted on 03/13/2004 10:56:05 AM PST by quidnunc
At first blush, the phrase "anti-establishment conservative" doesn't make sense. Aren't the conservatives, especially considering the United States' current political climate, the establishment?
Well, yes. But there are conservatives who consider what passes for a conservative today George W. Bush, for example equivalent to the Red under one's bed in the 1950s. These folks are called paleoconservatives and, according to guys such as Jim Libinskas, hold a world-view that champions "an isolationist, 'America First' foreign policy, regional culture and politics versus big government and pop culture, protection for American workers (economic nationalism), a stoppage or large curtailment of immigration and a defense of America's European and Christian identity."
The paleoconservative heyday occurred in the early and mid-1990s with anti-immigration, isolationist, anti-free trade, ultranationalist Pat Buchanan making more than a marginal impact in his runs for the Republican presidential nomination. After fighting a losing ideological battle against neoconservatives well-connected, well-funded, well-organized leftists in the paleoconservative's eyes the paleos, to a large degree, went the way of the dinosaur.
Yet they persist. Though few in number, their Web sites are many. At the vanguard in the beginning and toeing the line in the present is Chronicles magazine and its web presence www.chroniclesmagazine.org. Long considered the movement's bible, the mag has dipped in circulation from 20,000 at its peak to less than 5,000.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: antiwarright; bushhaters; paleocons
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To: AmishDude
I am not interested in your point.
I would like to know why we should support Israel.
To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
You're missing his point.That's been happening a lot to me lately. Check all the way down the thread, especially starting here.
To: AmishDude
The best friend Israel has in this world is Christain America, I don't know where this idea that paleocons do not support Israel came from but it is not correct. Pat B IS NOT A Paleocon!
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posted on
03/13/2004 1:15:13 PM PST
by
jpsb
(Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
To: Age of Reason
I would like to know why we should support Israel.This has been debated ad nauseum.
Show 'em my motto!
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posted on
03/13/2004 1:15:54 PM PST
by
rdb3
(The Servant of Jehovah is the Christ of Calvary and of the empty tomb. † <><)
To: jpsb
I don't know why I brother with you people.
Don't try on my account.
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posted on
03/13/2004 1:16:09 PM PST
by
Arkinsaw
To: jpsb
Pat B IS NOT A Paleocon!Wow! They could hold their conventions in a phone booth then.
To: quidnunc
You find the best stuff quid...:)
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posted on
03/13/2004 1:17:05 PM PST
by
veronica
("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." GW Bush 1-20-04)
To: veronica; quidnunc
You find the best stuff quid...:)Well, half of it, anyway.
To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Why should we support Israel?...You're missing his point. More likely he's making one.
We have a strong ally in the region Egypt to whom we supply several billion a year in military aid, to attack the unnamed little country to their NorthEast. That's from their training manuals.
And we have our dear friends, the Saudis.
BTW, both nations produce excellent pilots, they can his a skyscraper with their eyes closes.
Then we go and provide aid to a little country to Egypt's northeast, undoing the fine thing we're doing for Egypt, the Saudis, et al, our pals.
At least I think that's the point that's being made.
Soon to arrive, the post that says I didn't mean it, I don't just oppose aid to Israel, I oppose all foreign aid, I just forgot to say it.
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posted on
03/13/2004 1:18:47 PM PST
by
SJackson
(The Passion: Where were all the palestinians?)
To: AmishDude
Yup yall big government socailists seem to have won the hearts and minds of the people, congrads.
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posted on
03/13/2004 1:21:39 PM PST
by
jpsb
(Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
To: veronica
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posted on
03/13/2004 1:22:14 PM PST
by
SJackson
(The Passion: Where were all the palestinians?)
To: Age of Reason
- neoconservatives = Money First
- Why should we support Israel?
Why, indeed.
To: jpsb
Yup yall big government socailists seem to have won the hearts and minds of the people, congrads.Wow. Namecalling so quickly. I'm impressed.
To: jpsb
I would love to see anyone impeach what you have posted here!!
To: Age of Reason
Because it angers the Left
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posted on
03/13/2004 1:30:01 PM PST
by
Sam's Army
(Why is the left suddenly full of Biblical Scholars?)
To: jpsb
jpsb wrote:
The best friend Israel has in this world is Christain America, I don't know where this idea that paleocons do not support Israel came from but it is not correct. Pat B IS NOT A Paleocon!Pat Buchanan isn't a paleocon
riiighttt.
And the pope prays to Gaia and Dolly Parton's hairdo and curves are completely natural.
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posted on
03/13/2004 1:31:02 PM PST
by
quidnunc
(Omnis Gaul delenda est)
To: jpsb
Correct Pat is anti Israel, and I am not!! And I still agree with your post#22!!
To: Age of Reason
He was responding to a paleocon who made the claim that paleocons support Israel. He thought that was funny.
It seems, given your apparent position, that you would find that humorous as well.
I hope that helps. (I suppose I could be wrong, but that was my take on the exchange.)
To: jpsb
Pat B IS NOT A Paleocon!Then what is he?
To: AmishDude
I'm not, as far as I can tell so far, your posts are just a waste band width.
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posted on
03/13/2004 1:34:28 PM PST
by
jpsb
(Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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