TOM LIPSCOMB COMING UP ON FOX NEWS TO DISCUSS KANSAS CITY MEETING, KERRY, PLOT TO KILL SENATORS!

Tom Lipscomb | 3-13-04 | DFU

[doug from upland]

Amazing. I just spoke with Tom Lipscomb who wrote the recent article in the NY SUN that discussed a Kansas City Meeting in Nov. 1971. At that meeting, Vietnam Veterans Against the War were discussing assassinating U.S. Senators. John Kerry has denied he was there.

In a Kansas City Star piece yesterday, Randy Barnes, who has placed Kerry at that meeting must have gotten a phone call. He now is backtracking and isn't quite so sure Kerry was there. Barnes suggests that Kerry might have been at the St. Louis meeting earlier and he is confused.

How about this? JOHN KERRY WAS ON T.V. RECENTLY DENYING HE WAS AT THE ST. LOUIS MEETING!!!

I don't have cable. Please, FReepers, watch FOX NEWS within the next hour and report here.

[pinz-n-needlez]

Makes you wonder what the allowable per diem is for campaign workers, doesn't it?

Does the law allow ketchup money to be used for paychecks to support campaign 'volunteers?'

And how much ketchup would a vet of questionable veracity need, to sing whatever the tune of the day may be?

Pinz

[Hon]

The main gripe of people like Bangert and Camil is for more Veteran's benefits.

They simply want more money. (And for what might not even be service-related injuries.)

But it's why they say it is important to get Kerry elected, so he can increase their benefits.

BTW, the VVAW used to physically attack Veteran's hospitals in the 1970s. It was one of the things they did to endear themselves to the public.

[LS]

I'm sorry, but I think that a "bad past" is slightly understating participation in a group advocating political assassinations in AMERICA! This is not just a DUI, or a fling with Gennifer Flowers. In truth, this is probably the worst thing I can ever remember any presidential candidate ever being remotely charged with.

[rwfromkansas]

Right....there isn't any proof of anything, but I lend more credibility to those who say he was there. Only one person saying he was not at the KC agenda is not directly tied to the campign for Kerry's election.

[mass55th]

In January of 1970, Kerry gives up his first bid for a Congresstional seat from Massachusetts.

Timeline for '71:

January: Attends ''Winter Soldier'' hearings in Detroit, but does not speak.
April 22: Kerry testifies before Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
April 23: Kerry and other veterans throw medals and ribbons over a fence at the Capitol to protest the war.
June 20: Debates John O'Neill on ''The Dick Cavett Show.''

I don't know who John O'Neill is, but in 1972:

September: Kerry wins the Democratic primary in the race for the Fifth Congressional District.

November: Loses his bid for Congress to Republican Paul W. Cronin in the general election.

He apparently resigned VVAW to run for Congress, but when is the question. Was it before the November meeting or after?

Is it possible to find out when he filed his papers to enter the '72 primary? I'm wondering what time limits were in effect back in '71 regarding Congressional seats, ie, how far in advance of the election would you have to file your papers to run?

[rwfromkansas]

"But on behalf of the John Kerry campaign, spokesman David Wade told the Sun yesterday that Mr. Kerry resigned from Vietnam Veterans Against the War “sometime in the summer of 1971 after the August meeting in St. Louis, which Kerry did not attend.”

Mr.Wade also said,“Kerry was not at the Kansas City meeting.” "

[rwfromkansas]

Nevermind. My brain was fried thinking he was the writer, but he was the person quoted in the article.

[cyncooper]

OK, side by side Kerry spokespersons stories:

From the NY Sun article:

But on behalf of the John Kerry campaign, spokesman David Wade told the Sun yesterday that Mr. Kerry resigned from Vietnam Veterans Against the War “sometime in the summer of 1971 after the August meeting in St. Louis, which Kerry did not attend.”

And from the Kansas City article when the reporter wants comment on Musgrave's recollection that Kerry attended the Kansas City meeting:

As for Kerry, Musgrave said he remembered him talking to the veterans about protecting the group's credibility.

“He said, ‘It's people like you who are going to hurt the credibility of the organization,” Musgrave said. “(Kerry) may have resigned shortly after that meeting or at that meeting, I don't know. …We were all aware that he was getting ready to run for some political office.”

Hurley said the speech Musgrave referred to came earlier in the year.

“I think he's confusing the St. Louis and the Kansas City meetings,” Hurley said.

Which meetings did Kerry attend?! One person says he did not attend St. Louis, and evidently Kerry personally denied attending the St. Louis meeting, and then the story changes that Musgrave must be remembering Kerry speaking at the St. Louis meeting because the Kerry camp emphatically denies Kerry ever attended the Kansas City assassination discussion meeting.

Sorry for the late post. I'm reading a post, doing housework and taking care of a sick child. Posting/doing housework/nursing. Back in a bit to keep reading.

[doug from upland]

Yes, Mr. Kerry, which meeting(s) did you attend? Provide the dental records like they demanded of Dubya.

[cyncooper]

As I have noted several times previously, Scott Camil had already suggested killing Congressional leaders back during the week of April 19, 1971, when he and Kerry were in DC for Dewey Canyon III.

Thank you for all of this research.

Marking and highlighting Camil/Kerry/April.

[Clodia Pulcher]

Here is a telling question.

When the flap took place about Doug Brinkley's story online at Time that a long lost crew member named Gardner had come forward and called Kerry a commander who only cared about "saving his lily-white ass" .... Kerry stated that Gardner had been wounded on his ship.

DID KERRY PUT GARDNER IN FOR A PURPLE HEART?

HOW DO WE REACH GARDNER AND FIND OUT?

[teletech]

Exactly. At what point are we going to get word of his endorsement by the Botox lobby?

I thought he claimed he never touched the stuff!?? LOL!!

[dozer7]

" compiling a membership list"

where would one get that membership list

[woofie]

In '71 I saw Kerry at the Las Vegas meeting

[doug from upland]

Subject to bumping again, Tom will be on FOX NEWS on Sunday at 2:48 pm Eastern.

[xzins]

It doesn't mean he's level-headed if he knows Camil proposed the assassination plot AND Camil's just been offered a job in the Kerry campaign.

That seems awfully incriminating to me.

[FR_addict]

It doesn't mean he's level-headed if he knows Camil proposed the assassination plot AND Camil's just been offered a job in the Kerry campaign.

That seems awfully incriminating to me.

You pointed out the most important fact in this whole story. Kerry may have resigned, but he obviously supported the group and is still friends with the person who wanted to assasinate the members of Congress.

[xzins]

Precisely.

Maybe he needs a Phoenix wing to take care of those "liars".....Rush, Hannity, Jim Robinson.....

[Lancey Howard]

Whether Kerry was at the meeting or not, he evidently knew about the discussion there because he resigned. However, he did NOT report this conspiracy whether it was carried out or not. Isn't that legally actionable? It certainly is immoral.

That's a great point, as is the other point made here that regadless of the timing of the alleged "resignation", the fact that Kerry was involved at all with these kooks is newsworthy. I mean, would Kerry get a pass if he left Charlie Manson's cult the day before the Tate murders? "No, I had nothing to do with any of that. I left the gang before Charlie and the others turned into murderous freaks." Yeah, sure.

[Happy2BMe]

>> "In a Kansas City Star piece yesterday, Randy Barnes, who has placed Kerry at that meeting must have gotten a phone call. He now is backtracking and isn't quite so sure Kerry was there."

Makes sense, what took them so long?