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Accused Spy Lindauer Gave Deposition In Lockerbie Case - Attacks US, Defends Libya
Middle East Intelligence Bulletin ^ | 4 December 1998 | Susan Lindauer

Posted on 03/11/2004 7:09:28 PM PST by Hon

Middle East Intelligence Bulletin
Jointly published by the United States Committee for a Free Lebanon and the Middle East Forum

  Vol. 2   No. 6 Table of Contents
MEIB Main Page

1 July 2000 


Lockerbie Trial Document: Susan Lindauer Deposition
4 December 1998

Last month, MEIB reported that Dr. Richard Fuisz, a major CIA operative in Syria during the 1980s, met with a congressional staffer by the name of Susan Lindauer in 1994 and told her that that the perpetrators of the December 1988 bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland were based in Syria [see "The Lockerbie Bombing Trial: Is Libya Being Framed?" Middle East Intelligence Bulletin, June 2000]. One month after their meeting, the Clinton administration, which holds Libya responsible for the bombing, placed a gag order on Dr. Fuisz to prevent him from publicly discussing the issue.

While Dr. Fuisz is still unable to comment on this matter because of the gag order, MEIB has obtained a copy of a formal deposition filed by Lindauer in 1998 in which she recounts this conversation in detail. This deposition (see below) has been submitted to the court in which two Libyan suspects are currently on trial and to U.N. officials, who have attempted to persuade the Clinton administration to lift the gag order on Dr. Fuisz.

Lindauer says that she has been subject to intense surveillance, threats, and attacks since she began meeting with Libyan officials in 1995 to discuss her knowledge of the Lockerbie bombing. "Someone put acid on the steering wheel of my car on a day I was supposed to drive to NYC for a meeting at the Libya House. I scrubbed my hands with a toilet brush, but my face was burned so badly that 3 weeks later friends worried I might be badly scarred," Lindauer told MEIB. "Also, my house was bugged with listening devices and cameras -- little red laser lights in the shower vent. And I survived several assassination attempts."

She has agreed to publish her email address, slndau@aol.com, along with this deposition so that journalists, researchers and others interested in learning more about this issue can contact her.


Text of Deposition

My name is Susan Lindauer. I reside in Silver Spring, Maryland, one of the suburbs outside the District of Columbia in the United States of America. At the time these events took place, I was living inside the District of Columbia, at 1002 C Street NE on Capitol Hill.

In offering this deposition, I hereby inform the court and all interested parties at the United Nations that I have never accepted any financial compensation from any of the individuals, or governments involved in this case, in any form of cash or non-cash payment. Furthermore, I have never solicited nor received promise of future payments in exchange for this testimony. My reasons for coming forward reflect my own deepest personal values, and my sense of obligation to the cause of international peace and security. I remain deeply persuaded that justice must never be confused with convenience or political scapegoating, and that the issues of this case, including the prosecution of terrorist activities and the imposition of sanctions that seek to isolate an entire Arabic population, are too important in this contemporary age for a lie to stand unchallenged. And so let it be understood by the court: I make these statements of my own free will, out of respect to my own conscience and sense of obligation as a world citizen.

This deposition pertains to my direct and immediate knowledge of an American named Dr. Richard Fuisz, and unequivocal statements by Dr. Fuisz directly to me that he has first hand knowledge about the Lockerbie case. Dr. Fuisz has told me that he can identify who orchestrated and executed the bombing. Dr. Fuisz has said that he can confirm absolutely that no Libyan national was involved in planning or executing the bombing of Pan Am 103, either in any technical or advisory capacity whatsoever. He has also made direct statements to me describing harassment that he has suffered for trying to provide this information to the families of Pan Am 103 and prosecuting authorities in the United States government.

I first met Dr. Richard Fuisz in his business office in Chantilly, Virginia in the United States of America. The date was September,1994. I had been invited to meet Dr. Fuisz by a mutual acquaintance because of my position as press secretary to former Congressman Ron Wyden (a Democrat from Oregon), and because of my known longstanding interest in the Middle East. Wyden is now a United States Senator, and I have continued my career in TV journalism and public affairs. For the record, my relationship with Dr. Fuisz has remained purely professional, and based strictly on my respect for his integrity and incredible, indepth knowledge of the Middle East.

Dr. Fuisz told me in September, 1994 that he had lived in Syria during the 1980s, and that he maintained close ties to Saudi Arabia and the Middle East overall. Mutual friends and associates have confirmed this. He was vague as to what capacity he was working, but after our conversation, I concluded by myself that he must have been feeding U.S. intelligence efforts. He told me that he had infiltrated a network of Syrian terrorists tied to the Iranian Hezbollah, who, at the time of his residence in Damascus, were holding Americans hostage in Beirut. Dr. Fuisz impressed on me that he had identified the organizers behind the hostage crisis, and that he had actually located the streets and buildings where those Americans were being held captive, at tremendous personal risk, in order to try to orchestrate a rescue. This information was later confirmed by a third party source.

We talked a great deal about how the sale of heroin/opium from the Bekaa Valley in Lebanon is financing terrorist activities on a global scale. I must add, the rise of heroin in street markets all over the U.S. is a most insidious trend with enormous human costs, which has further motivated my determination to stay involved in this question of Pan Am 103. (The bombing of Pan Am 103 was intended to strike drug enforcement agents of the United States, in reprisal for their aggressive efforts.)

As further evidence of his deep infiltration of terrorist circles, occasionally Dr. Fuisz pointed to photographs on his wall that showed individuals engaged in social activities at private homes. He said they were some of the "most famous terrorists in the Middle East," to use his words. Obliquely he told me they might be household names in the United States.

Dr. Fuisz asked for my help as a congressional staffer because he said he had a problem. After testifying before a congressional committee about an American company that supplied Iraq with SCUD mobile missile launchers, he complained of being seriously harassed in lawsuits and by the U.S. Internal Revenue Service. Efforts by his attorneys to stop this harassment had been answered with warnings from the highest levels that he should never have talked about U.S. arms supplies to Iraq, and that he should stop trying to contact families tied to Pan Am 103.

In fact, this was the context for how the Pan Am bombing came up in our conversation. He said to me, gosh, [note to MEIB: he used much stronger language and profanities that I did not think would be appropriate for a deposition] I could be providing so much more information about Middle Eastern terrorists, except the United States government doesn't want anybody talking about Syria. Then he jumped into the Lockerbie case by way of example of unsolved bombing cases that he said has the immediate capability to resolve. He complained that he was getting shafted for trying to assist a cause that American leaders profess to care very much about. In essence, he insisted the messenger was getting shot for delivering the message.

Dr. Fuisz made it very clear that he knows a great deal of insider knowledge about this case. Because of his Syrian ties, he told me he "was first on the ground in the investigation," to use his words. At one point, I said to him, "Oh yeah, everybody knows Syria did it, and the U.S. repaid them for supporting us during the Iraqi War by shifting the blame to Libya."

Immediately he cut me off.

"Susan ‚ Do you understand the difference between a primary source and a secondary source? Those people in Virginia are analysts. They're reading reports from the field, but they don't have first-hand contact with events as they're happening on the ground. Or first hand knowledge about what's taking place. So they don't actually know it, even if they think they do."

"I know it, Susan. I know it. That's the difference. Because of my Syria contacts, I was the first on the ground in the investigation. I was there. They're reading my reports." (His emphasis. Then he laughed sarcastically.) "In this case, they're reading them and destroying them." (And he threw up his hands.)

He continued on:

"Susan, if the (United States) government would let me, I could identify the men behind this attack today. I could do it right now. You want a police line up? I could go into any crowded restaurant of 200 people, and pick out these men."

"I can identify them by face, by name." He started gesticulating, and counting off on his fingers. "I can tell you the address where they work, and what time they arrive at their office in the morning. I can tell you what time they go to lunch, what kind of restaurants they go to, and what time they leave their offices to go home for the day. I can tell you their home addresses, the names of their wives if they're married, the names and ages of all their children. I can tell you about their girlfriends. I can even tell you what type of prostitutes they like."

"And you know what, Susan? You won't find this restaurant anywhere in Libya. No, you will only find this restaurant in Damascus. I didn't get that from any report, Susan." Dr. Fuisz started shaking his head. "I got it because I was investigating on the ground, and I know. Do you understand what I'm saying to you now? I know!"

To which I answered. "For God's sakes tell me, and I'll get my boss to protect you."

Then he got really mad. "No, no ‚ It's so crazy. I'm not even allowed to tell you, and you're a congressional staffer." Then he repeated his story about the Terex lawsuit against both him and New York Times reporter Seymour Hirsch, (the famous Pulitzer Prize winner), whose only crime was reporting Dr. Fuisz testimony at the congressional hearing.

This was how I learned that Dr. Fuisz is covered by the Secrets Act, which severely restricts his ability to communicate information about Pan Am 103. Though he says freely that he knows first hand that Libya was not involved in any capacity whatsoever, it's my understanding that he can provide no further details regarding his part in the investigation, or details identifying the true criminals in this case.

This is tragic on two accounts. First, the accused Libyans are effectively denied the right to a fair trial where they might bring forth witnesses in their own defense, which could immediately exonerate them of all charges. And secondly, the families are denied the ability to close this terrible wound, and experience the healing that would be gained from discovering the complete truth and facts surrounding this case.

On both accounts, I cannot be silent. I suspect my disclosure will grieve the families with the horrible revelation that U.S. government officials have behaved so cynically and despicably as to withhold evidence in this case. And yet such a cynical and desperate act must be condemned by civilized society. I dare say Libya is entitled to financial compensation for the economic harassment her people have endured because of these blatantly false accusations, and the deliberate efforts to mislead potential judges, and victimize potential witnesses by a policy of aggressive harassment and punishment for speaking out. Meanwhile, the true culprits have literally gotten away with murder.

For shame on all of you!

This ends my deposition.

Signed this 4th Day of December, 1998 In the presence of a notary public.

(Lindauer's signature and the crest of the notary stamp)


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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cia; drrichardfuisz; fuisz; heroin; libya; lindauer; lockerbie; meib; opiates; opium; panam103; richardfuisz; syria
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Weird.
1 posted on 03/11/2004 7:09:28 PM PST by Hon
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To: All
This is tragic on two accounts. First, the accused Libyans are effectively denied the right to a fair trial where they might bring forth witnesses in their own defense, which could immediately exonerate them of all charges. And secondly, the families are denied the ability to close this terrible wound, and experience the healing that would be gained from discovering the complete truth and facts surrounding this case.

On both accounts, I cannot be silent. I suspect my disclosure will grieve the families with the horrible revelation that U.S. government officials have behaved so cynically and despicably as to withhold evidence in this case. And yet such a cynical and desperate act must be condemned by civilized society. I dare say Libya is entitled to financial compensation for the economic harassment her people have endured because of these blatantly false accusations, and the deliberate efforts to mislead potential judges, and victimize potential witnesses by a policy of aggressive harassment and punishment for speaking out. Meanwhile, the true culprits have literally gotten away with murder.

For shame on all of you!

Of course Kaddaffi has now effectively accepted responsibility for this attack.

Good thing this woman's hatred of the United States didn't blind her to the facts, huh?

2 posted on 03/11/2004 7:15:34 PM PST by Hon
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To: Hon
There are useful idiots and Rent-An-Idiots. Susan Lindauer has gone pro.
3 posted on 03/11/2004 7:20:25 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Hon
People like that hear what they want to hear, and warp the info to suit their POV.
What really is damning in her case in my mind, is her efforts to support the insurgency in post-war Iraq.

It will also be interesting to see how many of the lefty anti-war Dems had/have people like her doing their legwork working against the Bush administration and for the anti-American/anti-war "peace" movements.
4 posted on 03/11/2004 7:21:54 PM PST by visualops (Two Wrongs don't make a right- they make the Democratic Ticket for 2004!)
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To: Hon
DemonRat Leftist traitor is removed from her rat hole. If Benedict Arnold was alive, he'd be a DemonRat.
5 posted on 03/11/2004 7:22:43 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY (((Wake Up, America!!)))
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To: Hon
This woman sounds like she never met an anti-American terrorist national leader she didn't like. Sort of like the ANSWER people who've traveled to North Korea and sucked up to Kim Sung-Il. Pf they've got her recorded and on tape, I how she goes to jail until her teeth rot out. That'll shut her lying mouth and keep her off the streets.

I don't mean to be too harsh, though.

Congressman Billybob

Click here, then click the blue CFR button, to join the anti-CFR effort (or visit the "Hugh & Series, Critical & Pulled by JimRob" thread). Please do it now.

6 posted on 03/11/2004 7:26:41 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Hon
"I scrubbed my hands with a toilet brush, but my face was burned so badly that 3 weeks later friends worried I might be badly scarred,".....to bad she didn't lick the steering wheel. This is what we all have known in our hearts about the "peace movements"for years.
7 posted on 03/11/2004 7:27:45 PM PST by ping jockey (it only takes $.13 to do the job correctly.)
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To: Hon
Greta is getting ready to talk about this gal.
9 posted on 03/11/2004 7:31:22 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: visualops
Could be wrong, but I sense that
this woman is delusional - about
many things. Her politics and her
oddball activities became a danger
at some point when she crossed the
line to work with actual foreign
agents. But all the while, "I did
more to stop terrorism than...and
I've done many great things for
America...blah blah blah".

Not excusing her; just sense some
form of mental problem.

An acquaintance says, "Susan lives
in her own little world."
10 posted on 03/11/2004 7:48:36 PM PST by txrangerette
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To: txrangerette
Unfortunately she's got alot of company in bizarro world.
11 posted on 03/11/2004 7:54:18 PM PST by visualops (Two Wrongs don't make a right- they make the Democratic Ticket for 2004!)
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To: visualops
How many others inside our government are traitors?? We need to launch a commission.
12 posted on 03/11/2004 7:58:53 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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I don't doubt there will be some dirt digging going on. This gal knew alot of folks and worked with alot, for many years. Time to clean house.
13 posted on 03/11/2004 8:01:29 PM PST by visualops (Two Wrongs don't make a right- they make the Democratic Ticket for 2004!)
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To: txrangerette
Not excusing her; just sense some form of mental problem.

She's definitely not working on all thrusters, but that probably describes 95% of the hard Left.

14 posted on 03/11/2004 8:03:59 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: Hon
Too much Kool-Aid!

FDA should check this stuff.

15 posted on 03/11/2004 8:07:50 PM PST by JOE6PAK ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: visualops
She did get around. What about her
& Joe Wilson/Valerie Plame? What
about her & Anthrax/Ricin?
16 posted on 03/11/2004 8:08:09 PM PST by txrangerette
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To: txrangerette
http://www.thewbalchannel.com/news/2914445/detail.html

"...The judge released Lindauer to a halfway house and ordered her to undergo a psychiatric evaluation. ..."
17 posted on 03/11/2004 8:11:17 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Hon
bump
18 posted on 03/11/2004 8:15:43 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite
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To: Hon

19 posted on 03/11/2004 8:20:34 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: txrangerette
that's exactly what I thought..."mental case". I think one of the symptoms is "innaproriate affect" i.e smiling exuberantly whilst in handcuffs on your way to the big house.
20 posted on 03/11/2004 8:26:04 PM PST by Queen Jadis
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