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Unscripted Kerry calls GOP liars
Yahoo ^ | Thu, Mar 11, 2004 | Jill Zuckman and Jeff Zeleny Tribune

Posted on 03/11/2004 8:18:30 AM PST by Fun Bob

Unscripted Kerry calls GOP liars Tribune to My Yahoo!

By Jill Zuckman and Jeff Zeleny Tribune national correspondents

Seemingly unaware that his microphone was still on, Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) used uncharacteristically harsh language Wednesday to describe Republicans as "crooked" and "lying" during a quiet exchange with several workers at the Hill Mechanical Group in Chicago's Ravenswood neighborhood.

As one worker urged Kerry to "tell it like it is" and to "keep smiling," the presumptive Democratic nominee told the man not to worry.

"We're going to keep pounding, let me tell you. We're just beginning to fight here," Kerry said. "These guys are the most crooked, you know, lying group I've ever seen. It's scary."

The incident followed a videoconference call by Kerry to a meeting of AFL-CIO leaders in Florida before he left for Washington to meet with former rival Howard Dean (news - web sites) to seek Dean's support. It also came on a day in which Republican Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record) of Arizona said he would "entertain" the possibility of serving as Kerry's running mate, only to issue a retraction a few hours later.

Republicans were quick to pounce on Kerry's blunt talk, in a sign that the general election contest is well under way with an intensity unusual so far in advance of the November election.

"Sen. Kerry's statement today in Illinois was unbecoming of a candidate for the presidency . . . and tonight we call on Sen. Kerry to apologize to the American people for this negative attack," Marc Racicot, chairman of President Bush (news - web sites)'s re-election campaign, said in a statement. "On the day that Sen. Kerry emerged as his party's presumptive nominee, the president called to congratulate him. That goodwill gesture has been met by attacks and false statements."

Kerry rebuffed reporters' requests to answer questions Wednesday, but spokesman David Wade offered no apologies for his candidate's slicing rhetoric and said Kerry was referring to Republicans' "hardball, gutter politics."

"We're going to make it very clear that he's a Democrat who punches back," Wade said.

Kerry's remarks explained

Wade said Kerry used the word "crooked" to describe the personal attacks he has endured. Those attacks, he said, included doctored photos of Kerry falsely showing him protesting the Vietnam War with Jane Fonda and wrongly portraying him shooting a prisoner during his stint in the Navy.

He also cited a report in the Tribune about a Bush political appointee, John Thomas Burch, who attacked McCain's credentials as a veteran in 2000, and said he appears poised to do the same to Kerry.

During the 2000 primary, Burch stood by Bush's side and accused McCain of opposing heath care for Persian Gulf war veterans and blocking efforts to find prisoners of war and those missing in action. Burch, a Vietnam veteran and Veterans Affairs official, said former POW McCain "came home from Vietnam and forgot us."

Last year, Burch registered the Internet domain names veteransforjohnkerry.org and veteransforjohnkerry.com.

Wade said the campaign is expecting Burch and others to engage in "political dirty tricks," and said it is "standard operating procedure" for Bush to stand by and allow it.

McCain, who endured a fierce primary battle with Bush nearly four years ago, told ABC's "Good Morning America" on Wednesday that Kerry is "a close friend of mine."

Asked if he would consider being Kerry's running mate, McCain said, "Obviously I would entertain it."

McCain: VP idea far-fetched

But McCain, who campaigned for Bush in New Hampshire recently, also dismissed the idea as far-fetched.

"It's impossible to imagine the Democratic Party seeking a pro-life, free-trading, non-protectionist deficit hawk," he said during an interview about illegal steroids. "They'd have to be taking some steroids, I think, in order to let that happen."

A few hours later, McCain's chief of staff, Mark Salter, said McCain would not be a candidate for vice president in 2004.

Kerry's private meeting with Dean took place at the Massachusetts senator's new campaign office in Washington, where Dean was greeted by cheering Kerry staffers who clapped enthusiastically and reached out to shake his hand.

Before the former Vermont governor dropped out of the race last month, he called Kerry "corrupt" and warned voters not to support him. Dean repeatedly said Kerry was a "Washington insider" conflicted by special interests.

There was little sign of ill will as Kerry and Dean embraced before spending 45 minutes together. Kerry is eager to reach out to Dean's grass-roots supporters, and also to tap the fundraising prowess of the Internet mastered by Dean's campaign.

Dean could formally endorse Kerry on March 25, aides said, during a Democratic unity dinner featuring former Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton (news - web sites).

Kerry's day began in Chicago with a trip to Hill Mechanical Group, which makes ductwork and piping for heating and cooling systems. Surrounded by company workers, Kerry told AFL-CIO leaders via videoconference that Bush's tax-cut policies were actually costing middle-class families more money as state, local and property taxes rise to compensate for the loss of federal revenue.

Kerry has proposed repealing Bush's tax cuts for those earning more than $200,000 a year, and providing a $50 billion pot for struggling states.

Steve Schmidt, Bush's campaign spokesman, accused Kerry of attacking "tax relief for American workers," and added: "His campaign trail promises mean he is going to raise taxes by at least $900 billion."

Kerry is spending the rest of the work week in Washington. On Thursday, he will meet with another former rival, Sen. John Edwards (news - web sites) (D-N.C.).

Kerry also will visit the Congressional Black Caucus (news - web sites), the House Democratic Caucus and the Congressional Hispanic Caucus. He is expected to return to Illinois on Saturday to campaign in advance of Tuesday's primary.

Jill Zuckman reported from Chicago and Jeff Zeleny reported from Washington. Tribune staff reporter Stephen Franklin contributed from Florida.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; election; kerry; lyingcrooks; newtone; selfdescription
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To: Fun Bob; Registered
...Kerry was referring to Republicans' "hardball, gutter politics...these attacks included doctored photos of Kerry falsely showing him protesting the Vietnam War with Jane Fonda.

Registered, apparently, is taking orders directly from Karl Rove. Registered, while you are on the phone with him, could you please tell him to drop the Amnesty nonsense?

21 posted on 03/11/2004 8:45:35 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: hang 'em
No anti-semitism here. Not even worried about the appearance. What I hate is the hypocrisy of this jerk.
22 posted on 03/11/2004 8:54:17 AM PST by hang 'em (Racism-Abortion-Treason... That's why they're called the RAT party.)
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To: sciencediet
LOL!
23 posted on 03/11/2004 8:55:46 AM PST by octobersky
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To: Fun Bob
Sorry J. F-ing.K. you got the wrong administration when you say "These guys are the most crooked, you know, lying group I've ever seen. It's scary." THAT WAS THE CLINTON'S and YOU defended them!

On a funny side note, will it not be hilarious when Bill and Hill take out JFK because it interferes with their planned return to 1600 Penn. ave.
24 posted on 03/11/2004 9:04:12 AM PST by SoggyBottomBoy
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To: Fun Bob
Not a real issue here. Kerry calls Republicans liars and crooks, Bush called a man an a_ _ hole. Neither is very attractive or appropriate words for a world leader. I personally do not have any desire to hear either Kerry's or Bush's inappropriate comments played over and over again. Lets talk about the issues.
25 posted on 03/11/2004 9:08:01 AM PST by scarletletter
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To: Mo1
Isn't that the truth. There are guys on death row with less circumstantial evidence than what exists for Kerry and his connection to Hanoi Jane.
26 posted on 03/11/2004 9:09:25 AM PST by Balata (A Vietnam vet against Kerry and Fonda.)
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To: Fun Bob
Kerry rebuffed reporters' requests to answer questions Wednesday, but spokesman David Wade offered no apologies for his candidate's slicing rhetoric and said Kerry was referring to Republicans' "hardball, gutter politics."

Greg Kelly on Fox reported this morning that Kerry himself was on Capitol Hill this morning and was asked directly who he was talking about and he replied "I'll tell you later". What an ass.

"We're going to make it very clear that he's a Democrat who punches back," Wade said.

"Punch back" at what, you miserable punk?

Oh, Major Garrett JUST reported that Kerry cannot claim he didn't know the mike was open. That he knew he had it on and it was turned on. Oh, then Major showed video tape of Kerry in the hallways of Capitol Hill today saying the "I'll tell you later".

John Kerry is not a man in any sense of the word. He's a girly boy.

27 posted on 03/11/2004 9:09:26 AM PST by cyncooper ("an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm" GWB 1/20/01)
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To: Peach
I'm missing how they're looking innocent.

Help!

28 posted on 03/11/2004 9:20:18 AM PST by cyncooper ("an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm" GWB 1/20/01)
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To: Wright is right!
Daring to run against a democrat now qualifies as "hardball gutter politics" and the only votes that count are votes cast for a dem, otherwise the republican has "seized" his seat or the majority of Congress and so on.

In other words, they do not recognize us as legitimate and anything we say like "the sky is blue!" when they say "the sky is green" is considered an "attack".
29 posted on 03/11/2004 9:22:44 AM PST by cyncooper ("an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm" GWB 1/20/01)
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To: cyncooper
LOL. The press is playing this like the GOP is dirty and lies and is playing hardball.

The fact is, the DNC has been calling Bush a liar, did nothing to stop 9/11, etc.

The press doesn't ask specific questions of Kerry re how Bush or the RNC is playing dirty and then go on to point out how the DNC is playing dirty and the RNC has barely been in the game. That's all I meant.
30 posted on 03/11/2004 9:32:54 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: scarletletter
Not a real issue here. Kerry calls Republicans liars and crooks, Bush called a man an a_ _ hole. Neither is very attractive or appropriate words for a world leader.

Except we're not liars and crooks.

Adam Clymer was a major league you-know-what.

We added to our vocabulary, they get stinkier.

Our side wins again, and contrary to your assertion, there is no equivalence. Our open mike incident was way cooler than theirs.

LOL

31 posted on 03/11/2004 9:41:08 AM PST by cyncooper ("an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm" GWB 1/20/01)
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To: Peach
I know how the press is playing it, but trust me, Peach, that is NOT how it is being received.

I have heard this morning from two people who turn to me for the lowdown and they think Kerry looks like a sissyboy and asked why he is talking this way.

I told them because he's a miserable nasty SOB.
32 posted on 03/11/2004 9:44:32 AM PST by cyncooper ("an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm" GWB 1/20/01)
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To: cyncooper
I'm glad to hear that, cyn.

Unfortunately here in military, Bush land South Carolina, I've been shocked to hear a different story from people.

But I understand he's just begun campaigning. Hope Karen Hughes comes back for the duration of the campaign cycle.
33 posted on 03/11/2004 9:51:24 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Fun Bob
"Kerry was referring to Republicans' "hardball, gutter politics."

Hello pot, this is kettle, you are black.

34 posted on 03/11/2004 9:53:44 AM PST by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: Fun Bob
---As one worker urged Kerry to "tell it like it is" and to "keep smiling," the presumptive Democratic nominee told the man not to worry.

"We're going to keep pounding, let me tell you. We're just beginning to fight here," Kerry said. "These guys are the most crooked, you know, lying group I've ever seen. It's scary."---

Leon Panetta said Kerry was just indicating his willingness to fight back! What a pathetic, little tool that man has shown himself to be. If this is any indication of what the Democratic Party has to offer, they're in for the whipping of their lives.
35 posted on 03/11/2004 9:55:13 AM PST by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: scarletletter
"Lets talk about the issues."

If this is what you really wanted to do, why did you select this particular thread to visit? There are plenty of others.

36 posted on 03/11/2004 9:57:04 AM PST by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: cyncooper
...he's a miserable nasty SOB.

Having lived in Massachusetts (and then NH) for many years, I've been trying to tell people this for a long time. You have no idea just how nasty he can be. Another couple of months of his act and half of America will want to bitch-slap him.

37 posted on 03/11/2004 10:00:41 AM PST by andy58-in-nh
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To: sciencediet
John F'ing Kerry. They call him "Flipper"


38 posted on 03/11/2004 10:06:55 AM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of a 2 month old son with Down's)
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To: New Perspective
"These guys are the most crooked, you know, lying group

Yep, we know the type well. They're called the Democratic Party. And Mr. Kerry, you're the most crooked, lying, b@stard I've ever seen. And don't think you have anyone fooled, you stupid libiot, you knew that mic was on. You play the media like a fine tuned fiddle.

Good gosh, I thought I hated Hillary, but this man has her beat.

^God forgive me for these thoughts!

39 posted on 03/11/2004 10:14:32 AM PST by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W. Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: SoggyBottomBoy
Sorry J. F-ing.K. you got the wrong administration when you say "These guys are the most crooked, you know, lying group I've ever seen. It's scary." THAT WAS THE CLINTON'S and YOU defended them!

Thank you! Exactly!

40 posted on 03/11/2004 10:34:20 AM PST by Sister_T (Democrats AND The Lamestream Press are the REAL enemies to freedom in the world!)
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