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Ann Coulter: W.W.J.K.: WHO WOULD JESUS KILL?
Coulter via Yahoo ^ | 3-10-04 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 03/10/2004 4:10:11 PM PST by Pharmboy

William Safire, The New York Times' in-house "conservative" -- who endorsed Bill Clinton (news - web sites) in 1992, like so many conservatives -- was sure Mel Gibson's movie "The Passion of the Christ" would incite anti-Semitic violence. Thus far, the pogroms have failed to materialize.

With all the subtlety of a Mack truck, Safire called Gibson's movie a version of "the medieval 'passion play,' preserved in pre-Hitler Germany at Oberammergau, a source of the hatred of all Jews as 'Christ killers.'" (Certainly every Aryan Nation skinhead murderer I've ever met was also a devoted theater buff and "passion play" aficionado.)

The "passion play" has been put on in Germany since at least 1633. I guess 1633 would be "pre-Hitler." In addition, Moses walked the Earth "pre-Hitler." The wheel was invented "pre-Hitler." People ate soup "pre-Hitler." Referring to the passion play as "pre-Hitler" is a slightly fancier version of every adolescent's favorite argument: You're like Hitler!

Despite repeated suggestions from liberals -- including the in-house "conservative" and Clinton-supporter at the Times -- Hitler is not what happens when you gin up Christians. Like Timothy McVeigh (news - web sites), the Columbine killers and the editorial board of The New York Times, Hitler detested Christians.

Indeed, Hitler denounced Christianity as an "invention of the Jew" and vowed that the "organized lie (of Christianity) must be smashed" so that the state would "remain the absolute master." Interestingly, this was the approach of all the great mass murderers of the last century -- all of whom were atheists: Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.

In the United States, more than 30 million babies have been killed by abortion since Roe v. Wade (news - web sites), vs. seven abortion providers killed. Yeah -- keep your eye on those Christians!

But according to liberals, it's Christianity that causes murder. (And don't get them started on Zionism.) Like their Muslim friends still harping about the Crusades, liberals won't "move on" from the Spanish Inquisition. In the entire 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition, about 30,000 people were killed. That's an average of less than 100 a year. Stalin knocked off that many kulaks before breakfast.

But Safire argues that viewers of "The Passion" will see the Jewish mob and think: "Who was responsible for this cruel humiliation? What villain deserves to be punished?"

Let's see: It was a Roman who ordered Christ's execution, and Romans who did all the flaying, taunting and crucifying. Perhaps Safire is indulging in his own negative stereotyping about Jews by assuming they simply viewed Romans as "the help."

But again I ask: Does anyone at the Times have the vaguest notion what Christianity is? (Besides people who go around putting up nativity scenes that have to be taken down by court order?) The religion that toppled the Roman Empire -- anyone?

Jesus' suffering and death is not a Hatfields-and-McCoys story demanding retaliation. The gist of the religion that transformed the world is: God's only son came to Earth to take the punishment we deserved.

If the Jews had somehow managed to block Jesus' crucifixion and He had died in old age of natural causes, there would be no salvation through Christ and no Christianity. Whatever possible responses there may be to that story, this is not one of them: Damn those Jews for being a part of God's plan to save my eternal soul!

Gibson didn't insert Jews into the story for some Machiavellian, racist reason. Christ was a Jew crucified by Romans at the request of other Jews in Jerusalem. I suppose if Gibson had moved the story to suburban Cleveland and portrayed Republican logging executives crucifying Christ, the left would calm down. But it simply didn't happen that way.

Of course, the original text is no excuse in Hollywood. The villains of Tom Clancy's book "The Sum of All Fears" were recently transformed from Muslim terrorists to neo-Nazis for the movie version. You wouldn't want to upset the little darlings. They might do something rash like slaughter 3,000 innocent American civilians in a single day. The only religion that can be constantly defamed and insulted is the one liberals pretend to be terrified of.


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Comment #41 Removed by Moderator

To: Pharmboy
Another masterpiece from the best columnist on earth.
42 posted on 03/10/2004 4:42:50 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Pharmboy
William Safire, The New York Times' in-house "conservative" -- who endorsed Bill Clinton (news - web sites) in 1992, like so many conservatives
43 posted on 03/10/2004 4:44:48 PM PST by Porterville (Play the cards you were dealt or crawl in a whole and die; Vote for Bush or go away.)
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To: lelio
Is there anything in the Bible that quotes God as saying "Unless they kill my son, forget about Jesus holding any special sort of reverence"?

Oh, special sort of reverence was certainly possible. But salvation? Nope, the Bible makes it pretty clear that that sacrifice had to be made for Man to be saved. Even a dumb agnostic like me can figure that out from reading the book.

Qwinn

45 posted on 03/10/2004 4:47:57 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: Pharmboy
"The only religion that can be constantly defamed and insulted is the one liberals pretend to be terrified of."

They're not pretending. Many might not realize that they are afraid of it...but they are.

46 posted on 03/10/2004 4:48:04 PM PST by sweetliberty (To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: Eva
< andy rooney voice>

"'Ever notice how lib'rals can't make any rebuttal to Ann's words? They always have to attack her personally, calling her vicious names like right wing nut. I don't like that about her attackers and I think they should stop."

< /andy rooney voice>
47 posted on 03/10/2004 4:49:05 PM PST by HighWheeler (RATS hero is an impeached, dis-barred, lying, perjuring, cheating, lazy, cowardly sexual predator)
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To: VRW Conspirator
"Ann "The Blade" Coulter smites again."

"...and she cuts like a knife, and it feels soooooooo right!"

I wish I had the wit to say things the way she does... it's like that kung foo guy that has a gun aimed at him, snatches the gun away from the villian, dismantles it and toses it the parts, then chops the guy to a pulp with hands and feet.

48 posted on 03/10/2004 4:50:48 PM PST by KriegerGeist ("For the weapons of our warfare are not fleshly, but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds")
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To: international american
Safire has been a whore for 30 years. The first one to trash Nixon before any evidence was in!

Safire was a speech-writer for Nixon (and Agnew) before he joined the Times in 1973. In his NYT columns, he defended Nixon during the Watergate proceedings, and defended Nixon's actions as President for several years after Nixon's resignation.
49 posted on 03/10/2004 4:53:51 PM PST by eddiespaghetti (with the meatball eyes.)
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To: goodnesswins
"YEAH!!!...and she ends with a dangling preposition....I love it!"

Punch line from the classic joke:

"OK let me try again. Where's the library at M****rF****r?
50 posted on 03/10/2004 4:54:29 PM PST by HighWheeler (RATS hero is an impeached, dis-barred, lying, perjuring, cheating, lazy, cowardly sexual predator)
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To: Pharmboy
"it was a Roman who ordered Christ's execution, and Romans who did all the flaying, taunting and crucifying. Perhaps Safire is indulging in his own negative stereotyping about Jews by assuming they simply viewed Romans as "the help."

As the descendent of ancient Romans, I am highly offended by this. I am also offended that Mel Gibson blames the whole thing on the Romans.

I prefer the "Life of Brian" take on we SPQR's:

"Now, take my case. They hung me up here five years ago. Every night, they take me down for twenty minutes, then they hang me up again, which I regard as very fair, in view of what I done, and, if nothing else, it's taught me to respect the Romans, and it's taught me... that you'll never get anywhere in this life, unless you're prepared to do a fair day's work for a fair day's pay! "
51 posted on 03/10/2004 4:55:35 PM PST by Gaetano
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To: lelio
"I find that hard to believe."

Why? Redemption required blood sacrifice. Because Jesus was the perfect sacrifice (Lamb of God), there is no more need for animal sacrifice. When that which is perfect comes, that which is imperfect will be done away. Anyway, since He is called the Lamb of God slain before the foundation of the world, the point is moot anyway. The only way He would have died of old age would have been to defy the Father, which He wouldn't have done, because He was one with the Father. He knew the purpose for which He had come. Everything in His life pointed to His death on the cross. He would rather there had been another way, but I don't think it ever occurred to Him to bail out.

52 posted on 03/10/2004 4:56:38 PM PST by sweetliberty (To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: eddiespaghetti
Crap! I was in college during that time. He called for Nixon to resign, in the National Review, and the national media
53 posted on 03/10/2004 4:57:00 PM PST by international american
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To: Dataman
Ann Coulter, slammin' 'em out of the park again.
54 posted on 03/10/2004 4:58:19 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Pharmboy
bump
55 posted on 03/10/2004 4:58:22 PM PST by Tribune7 (Free Martha)
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To: Uncle Hal
"Happiness is reading Ann Coulter on Free Republic."

Happiness is reading and SEEING Ann Coulter on Free Republic.
56 posted on 03/10/2004 4:59:22 PM PST by ZULU (God Bless Senator Joe McCarthy!!!)
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To: goodnesswins
"and she ends with a dangling preposition"

I guess that makes her an honorary southerner.

57 posted on 03/10/2004 5:00:13 PM PST by sweetliberty (To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
"I missed the news about physical attacks on Jews as a result of Christians seeing this movie."

Obviously that is because the conservative media is covering it up. < /sarcasm >

58 posted on 03/10/2004 5:05:44 PM PST by sweetliberty (To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: Pharmboy
!SMACK!
59 posted on 03/10/2004 5:10:24 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Pharmboy
That's an average of less than 100 [deaths from the inquisition] a year. Stalin knocked off that many kulaks before breakfast.

That is a low estimate. Authoritative sources estimate anywhere from 20 million to 60 million Russians were killed as a direct result of Stalinistic "purges" during Stalin's rule, primarily in the 30's but extending onto during the war and beyond. This does not include the 20-30 million killed as a direct or indirect result of WWII. So if we estimate a smaller conservative number and figure on at least a million people a year for the time period when Stalin ruled we can do some math. One million people killed by the communists a year in Russia is 2,740 a day. Breaking that up into four periods -- before breakfast, before lunch, before dinner, and before bed -- gives us 685 per period. So the real number is probably much higher than 685 people that Stalin killed before breakfast for each day of his rule. Ann only estimated less than a sixth of that.

Such was communism -- the political system the Democrats of today worship. Keep that in mind come election day.

60 posted on 03/10/2004 5:13:13 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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