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Op-Ed: Protect Social Security Now With a Federal Retail Sales Tax
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Posted on 03/10/2004 3:01:26 PM PST by chance33_98

Op-Ed: Protect Social Security Now With a Federal Retail Sales Tax

3/10/2004 5:51:00 PM

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To: National Desk

Contact: Melissa McKay of the Office of Rep. Steve King, 202-225-2246; Genie Hayes of Americans for Fair Taxation, 800-324-7829 ext. 137

WASHINGTON, March 10 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following op-ed was released today by Steve King (R-IA), a co-sponsor of HR 25, the FairTax:

Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan recently suggested cutting Social Security and Medicare benefits in order to keep these government programs solvent.

There is a better way to keep Social Security and Medicare solvent, yet still provide the funding for very necessary reform. First, abolish all federal income taxes and the regressive payroll tax, then replace these taxes with the FairTax (HR 25/S 1493), a federal retail sales tax on all new goods and services purchased for personal consumption.

When we shift Social Security funding from a narrow, regressive payroll tax to a broad, progressive sales tax, we are well on our way to resolving the Social Security problem once and for all. One of the biggest problems in fixing Social Security is funding the transition from the mess we have now to whatever the reformed system becomes. With every consumer contributing via the sales tax, rather than a crushing payroll tax on the few, funding that transition is much more palatable.

Who contributes to Social Security under the FairTax? Everyone spending money in America. Teenagers who spend money like water, often without having paid payroll taxes. Tourists visiting our shores. Illegal aliens, who pay few taxes today. The trillion- dollar underground/criminal/drug/porn economy, with participants who really love to flash that cash for expensive retail products. Oh yes, you and I will be contributing through our purchases as well.

How does the FairTax protect those on fixed incomes? In brief, retirees (and anyone else) living at or below the poverty level will receive a rebate that zeros out any sales tax they would otherwise pay. They just have to be residents with a legal Social Security number to qualify. In addition, taxes hidden in the cost of the goods and services are gone. Through these two mechanisms, these segments of American society are honestly and transparently detaxed up to the poverty level. Additionally, the FairTax does not tax used goods, so there is yet another way for retirees to control the amount of sales tax they pay well above the poverty level.

Can we pass the FairTax soon enough to fulfill our commitment to seniors? Do we, the people, the grassroots, make the laws in this country? Women marched in the streets and got the right to vote. Prohibitionists marched in the streets to pass it; Americans voted with their elbows 13 years later to repeal it. Civil rights was won in buses and at lunch counters, and then passed in Congress. Oppressed East Germans took down the Berlin wall brick by brick; they took out communism slab by slab. Need I remind you your congressman's and senators' offices are only a phone call away? Yes, we can pass the FairTax now. But only if you call your congressman's and senators' offices now, and often demanding specifically that they co-sponsor and work to pass the FairTax.

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Steve King represents Iowa's 5th district and is a co-sponsor of HR 25, the FairTax. For more information on Congressman King, go to http://www.house.gov/steveking. For more information on the FairTax go to http://www.fairtax.org or call 1-800-FAIRTAX.


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KEYWORDS: axixofevil; congsteveking; fairtax; federalsalestax; fedretailsalestax; socialsecurity; steveking; tax; taxes; taxreform
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To: BillF; *Taxreform
Thanks for the ping, Bill.

Congressman King ran and was elected to Congress with the National Retail Sales Tax as his tax "plank."

He is a good FRiend to America and the FRee Republic -- definitely an "up and comer" in the Congress. One of his first official acts after being sworn in was to become a co-sponsor of H.R. 25, the FairTax Act of 2003.
21 posted on 03/10/2004 5:15:09 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Dr. Frank fan
Social Security is being "reformed" every year - the quota goes up, and the age for receiving "benefits" also goes up. Soon, you won't be able to make a claim until you're 80. The whole thing is going to go belly-up, no matter what kind of tax reform is proposed to "save it", because when it started there were 40 or so paying in for everyone who took out; in 10 years the ratio is going to be about 2 or 3 paying in for every one taking out. Ultimately, there will be NO WAY to sustain the system because the highest tax rate possible is 100% of GDP. That is not going to fly; civil unrest, anyone?
22 posted on 03/10/2004 5:16:33 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: chance33_98
From the FairTax web site:

"Therefore, when the FairTax Act of 2001 abolishes the federal income tax system, prices will drop 20% to 30%. The proposed FairTax rate is 23%. So, instead of paying 15.3% of your paycheck in payroll taxes, plus an average of 28% of your paycheck in federal income tax, for a total of about 43% of your paycheck going to the federal government in Washington, you pay only a 23% consumption tax each time you purchase a new good or service for your own personal consumption above the federal poverty level."

"At this 23% rate, the FairTax will pay for all current government operations, including Social Security and Medicare. With a consumption tax like the FairTax, government revenues will be even more stable than they are now because consumption tends to be more constant than income."

"With the FairTax, if you choose to buy any new good or service for yourself, a consumption tax of 23%, will be added into the price. If you choose to buy used goods -- used car, used home, used clothing -- you do not pay the FairTax. If, as a business owner, you buy something for strictly business purposes (not for personal consumption), you pay no consumption tax. So, in deciding what to buy, you get to choose whether or not you will pay the federal consumption tax."

"Perhaps most importantly, to ensure that no American will pay tax on necessities, the FairTax plan provides a prepaid, monthly rebate for every registered household to cover the 23% consumption tax spent on necessities up to the federal poverty level. This is how the FairTax completely untaxes the poor, and lowers the tax burden on everyone else. Can you see how much freer life will be with the FairTax instead of the income tax?"

23 posted on 03/10/2004 5:22:15 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Taxman
Congress will never pass H.R. 25. They do not want the whole tax scam "out in the open". They especially do not want people to actually know for certain what they are paying in taxes, because, then, it will be obvious that we have all been ripped off over the years by a bunch of scum-bag politicians (of both parties) who have been selling us a load of crap for the last 70 years. So, we add up the national sales tax and state sales tax ( in California it runs about 8%) and we get 31% added to the price of consumer goods. For every buck spent, we actually pony up $1.31.

What about all the "excise taxes", like the ones on tires and gasoline? Are we going to see all of those little thefts removed? Pardon my skepticism, but I don't think the criminals in government want to give up all that extra money they have been stealing for so long. The total tax burden on the average working stiff (if you add up everything including all the state, local and regional taxes) runs about 65-70% of every dollar earned. There is no way the scum can balance they books by giving up 40-50% of current tax revenue.

While the so-called "fair tax" is lower than the total tax rate as it now stands, people are going to begin to see what a waste it is to give government any money at all. It won't be long before such a stink is raised, that Congress will find itself on the end of a rope. No, the bastards are never going to reform the tax system because they like the stealthy theft approach better.

24 posted on 03/10/2004 5:36:24 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: templar
Neither Republicans or Democrats are willing to give up the control that those taxes allow, and it will take a significant amount of time to reestablish that control before the taxes could be repealed if they ever are (they won't want to give up the revenue either).

Well, the revenue is supposed to remain neutral.

But the control is the real issue, isn't it? I helped to get my congressman on board (Bilirakis), and the bill now has 44 co-sponsors, including De Lay. It can be done.

25 posted on 03/10/2004 6:12:35 PM PST by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org ** G-d may not be a Republican, but Satan is definitely a Democrat!)
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To: Taxman
Congressman Pat Toomey just signed on today. Toomey is challenging Snarlin' Arlen Specter for the Senate in the primary next month.
26 posted on 03/10/2004 6:24:50 PM PST by Badray (Make sure that the socialist in the White House has to fight a conservative Congress.)
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To: ECM; templar; chainsaw; TLI

ECM: but will all other taxes be abolished?

templar: No, it will be passed (assuming it is passed someday) as an additional tax

chainsaw: Another tax on the backs of the poor

TLI: To not abolish the other taxes is to simply INCREASE Taxes

Read the bill,

John Linder in the House & Saxby Chambliss Senate, offer a comprehensive bill to kill all income and payroll taxes outright, and provide a IRS free replacement in the form of a pure consumption tax:

H.R.25, S.1493
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.

Refer: http://www.fairtax.org & http://www.salestax.org

And will be pulled from consideration by sponsor, if amended to do anything other than stated. It is intended to repeal the all federal income, payroll and gift/estate taxes and proposes the express prohibition of all taxes on income by constitutional amendment.

It's sister bill is is written in amendment for to accomplish the language laid out in HR25

H.J.RES.61
Title: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to abolish the Federal income tax.
Sponsor: Rep Johnson, Sam [TX-3] (introduced 6/24/2003)      Cosponsors: 5
Latest Major Action: 9/4/2003 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on the Constitution.


27 posted on 03/10/2004 8:04:23 PM PST by ancient_geezer (Equality, the French disease: Everyone is equal beneath the guillotine.)
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To: Badray
I really, really, really hope that Rep. Toomey kicks Snarlin' Arlen's a$$ in the Republican primary!

Good on him for signing on to the FairTax! Hope he has his NRST ducks in a row and can answer the hard questions sure to be thrown at him.
28 posted on 03/10/2004 8:13:39 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: 45Auto

No, the bastards are never going to reform the tax system because they like the stealthy theft approach better.

I see, then it is not even worth your effort to try to make a change.

It's a good thing then that some folks see things in a different light, or no change could ever come about.

"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man - brave, hated, and scorned. When his cause succeeds however, the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot." -- Mark Twain

an ever-increasing number of members of Congress are actually trying to make it happen

Last session of Congress there was only the House bill HR2525 with 7 Cosponsors,

Today there is a House bill with (44) HR25 Co-Sponsors and bill introduced before the Senate, with

FairTax - Congressional Score Card;
40+ others favoring it passage

and many changing there preferences for the way to go:

'We know it's not perfect' (Shelby on the Stump in Alabama)

As well as Primary races for Senate where NRST is part of platform

Mac Collins (Georgia)

Herman Cain (Georgia)

 

as well as House races where NRST is a substantive part of the debate and competitition for office:

Dennis Umphress, libertarian (California 16th District)

Dr. Paul DeWeese, (Michigan 7th District)

Vernon Robinson, (North Carolina's 5th District)

Ben Streusand, (Texas 10th District)

Michael McCaul, (Texas 10th District)

Dave Phillips, (Texas 10th District)

John Devine, (Texas 10th District)

Pat Elliot, (Texas 10th District)

Bill Lester (Texas 11th Congressional District)


29 posted on 03/10/2004 8:17:58 PM PST by ancient_geezer (Equality, the French disease: Everyone is equal beneath the guillotine.)
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To: Taxman
Well, he's bright and a quick study. He's been given the info and he realizes what he's dealing with. I think he'll be ready.
30 posted on 03/10/2004 10:50:49 PM PST by Badray (Make sure that the socialist in the White House has to fight a conservative Congress.)
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To: ancient_geezer
Ain't gonna happen the way the bills are written. Amendments will be added, compromises made (think of the recent gun manufacturers liability bill). My guess is that, if it passes at all (which I doubt since I hear no talk of it anywhere on the streets or radio), it will be passed in a manner that phases it in with the income tax (NOT SS), intended to be phased out (allegedly as a transition period). This will never quite happen since the income tax serves too many purposes other than revenue (intimidation & control, of the people, surveillance of Americans financial activities to identify potential political threats to the establishment, etc.). It will end up as another revenue stream, and extended control of small business (a growing area), not a removal of the IRS. Wait and see, but I am fairly confident of my predictions.

The only way to get rid of the current system is a constitutional amendment, and that is unlikely with the coming financial chaos.

31 posted on 03/11/2004 6:17:25 AM PST by templar
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To: templar
Well certainly that is what will happen if HR25, doesn't pass. All those things are already in the legislative pipeline.

Guaranteed they don't need the HR25, NRST legislation to get there, that would just get in their way.

What you fail to recognize is that HR25 will be withdrawn by its sponsor if ammended in the manner you suggest.

However, all you say may happen anyway for the bills already exist to be attached wherever, to accomplish such behind the scenes.

HR25 is the legislation to forstall your scenario. However, you seem to be resigned to the worst as it is, so we won't bother you about trying to do anything to avoid your dark prognostications of the world.

The only way to get rid of the current system is a constitutional amendment,

Of course, and which is why HR25 calls for such, and creates the environment where that can happen by placing a viable alternative to the current system in place.

and that is unlikely with the coming financial chaos.

LOL, I read that book too, back in the 50's. Lost me alot of money and wealth over the years until I finally wised up.

Gloom and doom always does a great job selling books, newspapers, and socialist/populist political campaigns.

32 posted on 03/11/2004 8:32:43 AM PST by ancient_geezer (Equality, the French disease: Everyone is equal beneath the guillotine.)
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To: Badray
Will Toomey be signing as a co-sponsor of HR25 soon?
33 posted on 03/11/2004 8:36:32 AM PST by ancient_geezer (Equality, the French disease: Everyone is equal beneath the guillotine.)
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To: ECM
Pardon my ignorance, but will all other taxes be abolished and/or outlawed with the passage of this measure? Cause if they're not, forget it...

The FairTax specifically eliminates income, payroll, gift, and estate taxes from USC 26. It does not affect import/export taxes or excise taxes.

34 posted on 03/11/2004 8:38:27 AM PST by kevkrom (Ask your Congresscritter about his or her stance on HR 25 -- the NRST)
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To: ECM
Pardon my ignorance, but will all other taxes be abolished and/or outlawed with the passage of this measure?

First, abolish all federal income taxes and the regressive payroll tax, then replace these taxes with the FairTax (HR 25/S 1493), a federal retail sales tax on all new goods and services purchased for personal consumption.

35 posted on 03/11/2004 8:48:30 AM PST by JimRed (Fight election fraud! Volunteer as a local poll watcher, challenger or district official.)
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To: templar

It will end up as another revenue stream, and extended control of small business

What would they use a Retail Sales Tax to do that for?

They already have the business income tax for that purpose, and VATs coming down the pike to add on and that pander to the populist mentality that rich fat cat business owners gotta pay not the peoples. Those VATs are hundred times more efficient at controlling and bringing small businesses to heel compared to a retail sales tax.

S.112
Title: A bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to impose a value added tax and to use the receipts from the tax to fund America's war effort.
Sponsor: Sen Hollings, Ernest F. [SC] (introduced 1/9/2003)      

H.R.15
Title: To provide a program of national health insurance, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Dingell, John D. [MI-15] (introduced 1/7/2003)

CRS summary:

Amends the Internal Revenue Code to impose a tax on each taxable transaction (the sale of property, performance of services, and importing of property by a taxable person in a commercial-type transaction). Sets the tax rate at zero for specified transactions.

Establishes the National Health Care Trust Fund. Appropriates to the Fund amounts received from the value added tax. Allows the Fund to be used only to carry out the program under this Act.

 

A broad Retail Sales tax does just the opposite, it exposes the individual voter to the full view of the tax burden imposed by large government, and impacts business operations very little as it relieves all businesses of income and payroll taxes and the burdens they impose.

A point of fact, sales taxes do not require fedgov intervention at all with the business. State sales tax administrative agencies already do that in 45 states and that is who are slated to administer and enforce the NRST in parallel with their own.

H.R.25, S.1493
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.

Refer: http://www.fairtax.org & http://www.salestax.org

Not only does the HR25, empower the individual and provide freedom from the intrusive aspects of the income tax, it empowers the states as well, returning to them authorities the states should naturally have under the constitutition.

"A capitation is more natural to slavery; a duty on merchandise is more natural to liberty, by reason it has not so direct a relation to the person."
--Thomas Jefferson: copied into his Commonplace Book.

-- a free people that pays slave taxes to its government is willingly training itself for bondage.
Alan Keyes 199

The NRST gets rid of those "slave" taxes for both business and the individual.

36 posted on 03/11/2004 9:16:30 AM PST by ancient_geezer (Equality, the French disease: Everyone is equal beneath the guillotine.)
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To: ancient_geezer

37 posted on 03/11/2004 12:26:33 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: ancient_geezer
Disadvantages of a National Sales Tax

Sales tax rates based upon the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) may may need to be higher than stated since significant GDP spending is by the government.

Sales tax rates based upon the GDP may need to be higher than stated since prices of goods and services will likely decrease with the elimination of corporate taxes.

Retailers would be required to collect and manage additional taxes for each sale.

Only 45 our of 50 states currently have a retail sales tax.

Will require Federal oversight of retail sales tax collection techniques.

Exempted items (perhaps food products) may be taxed by the state, complicating the retail tax computations.

Support for churches and charitable organizations may decrease since contributions will not be tax deductible.

Will be regressive in nature without rebates.

Rates over 15% may encourage evasion and require enforcement actions.

Evasion might take the form of a growing black market

38 posted on 03/11/2004 12:32:57 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: ancient_geezer
On the other hand...


39 posted on 03/11/2004 12:38:24 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: ancient_geezer
Altering the way the Federal government acquires it revenue will not be effective unless we also place mandatory restrictions on government spending.

Many celebrate "Tax Freedom Day" each year--the day on which our wages so far for the year pay all our income taxes. With increases in the number and magnitude of taxes, Tax Freedom Day is pushed back later and later each year. In 1998 that day was May 8th, a day later than in 1997. We worked 45 days to pay personal income taxes, 18 days to pay sales and excise taxes, 12 days to pay property taxes, 13 days to pay corporate income taxes, and 3 days to pay other miscellaneous taxes.

On September 30, 1998 President Clinton announced a federal budget surplus of $70 billion and that he wanted to use a portion of it to save Social Security. One fact he neglected to mention was that during 1998 the Federal deficit ballooned by nearly $120 billion.

We must work to eliminate the problems with the current tax environment and implement a tax environment that is fair, simple, non-intrusive, and not counterproductive to economic growth. We must also control spending.

We must adopt a constitutional amendment to both repeal the 16th Amendment and Article I. Section 2's reference to direct taxes. This amendment could mandate a national sales tax as the sole means of taxing individuals specifying upper limits on the tax rate.

We must adopt a balanced budget constitutional amendment. Such an amendment could require the total spending of all Federal government agencies, departments, and government branches not exceed the average total revenues for the previous three fiscal years.

What are the chances that this will be implemented by the jerks in Congress, who benefit immensely by the current complex system?

40 posted on 03/11/2004 12:55:11 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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