The Tenth Brother [former Kerry mate from Nam steps forward: "Kerry was chickens---"]

Time Magazine ^ | 3.09.04

[petitfour]

I did a google search on this Gardner fellow, and I found a link that has a long excerpt from the book about Kerry and his "band of brothers." You can skip down to the section that has Gardner mentioned. There are lots of excerpts from Kerry's diary in this book, and they tell a lot about the "man."

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1057936/posts

[bondjamesbond]

Every sailor who served under Lieutenant John Kerry on Swift boats PCF-44 and PCF-94 have gushed about his poise under enemy fire.

John Kerry is the warmest, kindest, most wonderful human being I have met in my entire life...

[oldironsides]

This is a fluff piece making the man look like a biased Ditto Head. Time Magazine is not hard to figure out.

[oldironsides]

This is a fluff piece making the man look like a biased Ditto Head. Time Magazine is not hard to figure out.

[syriacus]

I was a bit slow on the up take .. guess I need more coffee :0)

What I wrote wasn't very clear.

[bray]

You mean there is an eye witness that says Yaaaawn Who Kerry is not a Vietnam War hero?? I am sure the Mainstream Mafia will investigate this to the fullest! They will want more witnesses just like the AWOL charges that had no witnesses. Oops forgot, same side!

Pray for W and Our Troops

[petitfour]

Here is an excerpt of an excerpt from an excerpt from the article earlier posted on FR and referenced in my post above.

The longer he was in the Mekong Delta river system, the more Kerry's war notes reflected a distrust of his direct superiors. He also grew more and more uncomfortable with the tacit assumption that an American life was worth so much more than a Vietnamese life. Although he never saw the slightest evidence of bigotry, hatred, or cruelty of any kind in any of the men he served with on a Swift boat, or in any of his fellow Swift skippers, Kerry was troubled by the callous attitude he perceived coming from the top U.S. brass. Worse, it seemed to be trickling down into the enlisted ranks among men eager for promotions. He wrote in his war notes,

”The popular view was that somehow ‘gooks’ just didn't have very much personality—they were ignorant ‘slopeheads,’ just peasants with no feelings and no hopes. I don't think this was true among most of the officers and this made me wonder how much of it was feigned among the enlisted so that they would look good in the eyes of their more chauvinistic comrades.”

Kerry was fortunate never to have a man of that disturbing ilk among his crew. He commanded five men on each of his boats. They could hardly have been more diverse in background, age (ranging from nineteen to thirty-seven), education, point of origin, or anything else except distance from their Yale-grad skipper's privileged upbringing.

"I know that most of my friends felt absolutely absurd going up a river holding a loaded weapon that was supposed to be used against someone who had never really done anything to you and on whose land you were now trespassing," Kerry wrote. "I had always felt that to kill, hate was necessary and I certainly didn't hate these people." In truth, he added, scanning the shore for suspicious movements to shoot at made him "feel like the biggest ass in the world." Kerry had explored similar feelings in a letter to his parents in December of 1968. Describing the sight of American soldiers and their Vietnamese girlfriends strolling down the streets of the U.S. rest-and-recreation-center city of Vung Tau one sunny afternoon, he reflected on the crucial difference between occupiers and liberators of war-torn places. "I asked myself what it would be like to be occupied by foreign troops—to have to bend to the desires of a people who could not be sensitive to the things that really counted in one's country," Kerry wrote in that letter. He had been considering Germany's occupation of France during World War II, he added, when "a thought came to me that I didn't like—I felt more like the German than the doughboy who came over to make the world safe for democracy and who rightfully had a star in his eye."

Less than three months later experience had brought him to another melancholy observation. He wrote in his war notes,

”It was when one of your men got hit or you got hit yourself that you felt most absurd—that was when everything had to have a meaning in order for it all to be worthwhile and inevitably Vietnam just didn't have any meaning. It didn't meet the test. When a good friend was hit and perhaps about to die, you'd ask if it was worth just his life alone—let alone all the others or your own.

"But the ease with which a man could be brought to kill another man, this always amazed me," he went on. Even more troubling to him was the imprimatur the U.S. military accorded this coldheartedness. To illustrate his point, he referred to the messages that would come in from the brass at Cam Ranh, praising the Swifts' gunners whenever they had killed a few Vietcong, and ending "Good Hunting": "Good Hunting? Good Christ—you'd think we were going out after deer or something—but here we were being patted on the back and receiving hopes that the next time we went out on a patrol we would find some more people to kill. How cheap life became."

[Howlin]

This article is a hatchet job and an effort to discount Gardner's recollections.

Exactly, which accounts for paragraph upon paragraph trashing HIM before he even got to WHAT THIS GUY HAD TO SAY.

[Carolinamom]

I called the Charlotte Observer and the Rock Hill (SC) Evening Herald this morning, spoke w/reporters there who did not seem to know about the local angle...Clover, SC, is right over the NC-SC border. They were very interested in perhaps writing about Gardner.

While I was in such an activist and anti-Kerry mood, I also left a voice mail at WBT radio for John Hancock, popular talk host there, who is not a Kerry fan.

Rush read this same article on his program today.

[gatorbait]

This is a hit piece,plain and simple. Brinkley is a pinko jackass.

[BigSkyFreeper]

.. the only way to find out who is telling the truth is for Kerry to release his military records

BINGO! Release the files Lurch!

[Badray]

"John Kerry is the, kindest, warmest, bravest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life. The Manchurian Candidate."

[abner]

Pinging myself for later.

[KQQL]

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[kayak]

ping

[Maigrey]

placemark

[yawningotter]

Exactly. If every media outlet in the country could track down the dentist who performed President Bush's examination based on a 30 year old signature in less than a day, they could have found this guy very easily. They knew what he would say, so he was ignored.

[kayak]

Additonal info on Mr. Gardner on this thread ...

Kerry no hero in ex-crewman's eyes

#39 contains a link to a local newspaper's online edition with an interview the local paper conducted with Mr. Gardner.

[rwfromkansas]

This gives his hometown...bump to self for interview attempt

[mtbopfuyn]

“We went into a dangerous area that had numerous hooches and sampans,” Wasser recalled. “The enemy was thick. Once we got in the canal we took a lot of small arms fire, followed by mortar. Our adrenaline was racing; we went right back at them with all the firepower we could muster. That’s when Gardner got hit.”

So, did Kerry request a PH for Gardner? What does Gardner know about Kerry's PHs?