Posted on 03/08/2004 10:17:35 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
The East Bay for Kerry/MoveOn House party on December 7th combined the forces of two grass-roots organizations based in San Francisco East Bay Area. We had 200 guests eating, drinking, and watching the MoveOn Documentary “Uncovered” featuring Joseph Wilson and Rand Beers from the Kerry campaign.
When Teresa Heinz-Kerry arrived, she handed me a pin that read in the center:
“Asses of Evil” with “Bush”, “Cheney”, “Rumsfeld” and “Ashcroft” surrounding it.
She met, greeted and talked to a jam-packed room of Kerry supporters and others who came for the MoveOn documentary. Many were curious, others undecided, or belonging to other candidate camps.
Teresa talked about her life as the daughter of a physician in Africa, about life during a repressive regime, to life inside Washington DC, and a brief intimate glimpse into her courtship with John. She told a rapt crowd about how they met and their first date, and that he did not call again for six months, adding, “He was slow on the uptake”. Just as she was about to add more to the story, the phone rang. It was the Senator.
The synchronicity of this call was not lost on the crowd. We all laughed. John then spoke about the Medicare Bill recently signed by the president that effectively forces people into expensive HMO plans and prevents Medicare from using its formidable consumer base to drive the bulk purchase of expensive prescription drugs down. He also spoke about the recent Bush Thanksgiving visit to our military in Iraq, carrying a platter laden down with a fake turkey, smiling for a photo op.
People were hungry for the food we had prepared, but more so, hungry for John’s message of hope. After the call, Teresa took questions from the crowd. One of the questions was about grass-roots organizing, and the effect it had on the current presidential campaigns. Teresa responded that grass-roots has to happen at EVERY level, from the Internet, to canvassing and meeting people, to letter writing and phone calling. She reminded us that this was the way to connect with others and to get the message out.
A PBS producer working on a documentary on MoveOn interviewed Teresa. He asked, “Just as radio was for Roosevelt, and television was for Kennedy, the Internet has been defined as the new political grass-roots organizing tool for this era. What is your reaction to that?”
Teresa said, “The Internet is a great grass-roots organizing and political tool; but it is still an adjunct.” The producer asked her to clarify. Teresa responded, “Until EVERYONE has access to a computer and knows how to access the Internet, it will still be an adjunct political grassroots organizing tool”.
It was hard for Teresa to stay on schedule. The lovely voice of opera singer, Susan Gundunas was on hand to sing a few tunes, and that kept Teresa with us a while longer than expected. Before saying goodbye, she took with her some “Condoleezza Rice Crispies Bars” and “No Child Left Behind Chocolate Chip Cookies”, sold to generate donations to the cause. She left with a lilt to her step, a warm smile, and some new converts, some of whom were uncommitted and undecided, and some who were definitely committed, but came over to our camp. Because of her.
She gave us a bit of what she does best, connecting us as a community with her heart, compassion, and willingness to fight throughout all her life for the good of all of us. As her husband, John Kerry has throughout his life. Teresa completed the picture many people had unfinished about John Kerry. Now they know they have a “Real Deal”. From baking cookies, gathering food donations, staying up late cooking chicken wings, putting up artwork, and decorating that beautiful rambling modern home in the Oakland Hills, we at East Bay for Kerry did our job because we believe grass roots efforts include all of these finer, human details. We brought in more than 80 people to John’s birthday party the next night, bringing the room to capacity at 350 the following night
Thanks to Teresa, we kept the party going on, and she helped us here at East Bay for Kerry, throw the Mother of All House Parties.
Fe Bongolan - December 11, 2003
East Bay for Kerry - Berkeley, CA
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This was exactly the reaction Dianne and I experienced when Teresa was in Seattle a few weeks back. This is exactly what we want residing at 1600 Pennsylvaia Ave.although I wouldn't mind one bit if Teresa took on Santorum. She'd beat him but good. I still see that smirk on his face when all those men signed that bill against women. Back to the party,go K-TEAM ! These events always bring out the best of JK supporters. I can hardly wait for the dance!Posted by: Patti Ferschke on December 11, 2003 11:51 AM
Patti:
How about a "Draft Teresa" movement in PA?Posted by: Fe on December 11, 2003 12:29 PM
Asses of Evil pins?
Come on, tell us where to get them!!!!Posted by: kerry4me on December 11, 2003 12:41 PM
HEY CAMPAIGN!!!!!
Let's get some "Asses of Evil" pins for the ground crews--what do you say?!Posted by: Fe on December 11, 2003 12:53 PM
Asses of Evil pins.
Real Deal fans.
We do need some more cool gear. Someone in the campaign take note.Posted by: Aaron Loyd on December 11, 2003 01:19 PM
Big thanks to everyone in the Bay Area for putting on one heck of a party. The SF Bay Area's Kerry Kountry, baby!!! Posted by: Matt on December 11, 2003 02:24 PM
A friend suggested to me - how about some combination of Teresa & Hillary for a ticket for 2008?Posted by: DiAnne on December 11, 2003 08:12 PM
"In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
--George Orwell
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers, which are cited to justify it." --President John F. Kennedy
in an address to newspaper publishers, April 27, 1961.
ANOTHER REASON TO CHOOSE HOWARD DEAN
AND NOT JOHN KERRY
IF YOU'RE VOTING FOR THE CANDIDATE MOST LIKELY TO
RESPECT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE:
KERRY AND GW BUSH WERE BOTH MEMBERS OF YALE's SKULL AND BONES AT THE SAME TIME! 1966-1968. Members are loyal to the society above all else...
from "America's Secret Establishment:"
Those on the inside know it as The Order. Others have known it for more than 150 years as Chapter 322 of a German secret society. More formally, for legal purposes, The Order was incorporated as The Russell Trust in 1856. It was also once known as the "Brotherhood of Death". Those who make light of it, or want to make fun of it, call it "Skull & Bones", or just plain "Bones".
The American chapter of this German order was founded in 1833 at Yale University by General William Huntington Russell and Alphonso Taft who, in 1876, became Secretary of War in the Grant Administration. Alphonso Taft was the father of William Howard Taft, the only man to be both President and Chief Justice of the United States. . .
http://www.worldnewsstand.net/today/articles/skullandbones.htm
http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/3/order/index.html
1. Secret Origins
2. The 'Tomb'
3. Networks of Power
4. Roster of Initiates
5. The Opium Wars
6. The War on Drugs
7. JFK Assassination
8. Motives
9. The Body Politic
10. Illuminati
11. Plan or Accident
12. SourcesPosted by: coffin on December 11, 2003 08:20 PM
Coffin:
Please take this old tired and dead as a doornail post and bury it elsewhere.Posted by: Fe on December 11, 2003 08:33 PM
coffin-
this is a website for kerry supporters. you're not going to make anyone here convert to the dean campaign. you're just giving yourself and your candidate a bad name.Posted by: Jason on December 11, 2003 08:42 PM
Speaking of secrets, how 'bout them sealed records?!
& 9-11 files? There are a couple of people with big secrets around!!!Posted by: DiAnne on December 11, 2003 09:43 PM
how bout that leaker?
& the hacking of Kennedy's records on court nominees - by Hatch's hackers?
& what about that Kelly guy in England?
Those are REAL secretsPosted by: DiAnne on December 11, 2003 09:44 PM
Fe
Just clicked on the link & read the rest of this wonderful article!!! I'll be you had a great time & she is so inspiring!
Wear your button proudly!!!Posted by: DiAnne on December 11, 2003 10:18 PM
I am proud to say the ASSES OF EVIL buttons were my doing. I gave a couple to Teresa when she came to Wisconsin to open our campaign headquarters. I asked her to give one to John also.
Lo and behold, a few weeks later, our HQ got a call from her asking for me to send a shipment.
Now that we've made the blog, the rest will be history.
If you want those pins, I'll send you some for a couple bucks each. I think that will cover postage too. Send me an email!
Don
Madison, WIPosted by: Don on December 11, 2003 11:05 PM
Don
Your email isn't working but the buttons were brilliant!Posted by: DiAnne on December 11, 2003 11:10 PM
I am proud to say the ASSES OF EVIL buttons were my doing. I gave a couple to Teresa when she came to Wisconsin to open our campaign headquarters. I asked her to give one to John also.
Lo and behold, a few weeks later, our HQ got a call from her asking for me to send a shipment.
Now that we've made the blog, the rest will be history.
If you want those pins, I'll send you some for a couple bucks each. I think that will cover postage too. Send me an email!
Don
Madison, WIPosted by: Don on December 11, 2003 11:25 PM
OK, got it fixed.... E-me for the pins!
Don
Madison, WIPosted by: Don on December 11, 2003 11:32 PM
Don:
Just sent you an e-mail. The pins were a HUGE hit in the SF Bay Area. Is there a price break if we ask for more than 100?Posted by: Fe on December 12, 2003 06:17 PM
Come on now...don't you think the "ASSES OF EVIL" pin is in slightly bad taste? Combined with the wide spread obscenities found on Senator Kerry's website, this website seems to provide the Bush folks with plenty of ammunition to leave middle of the road voters with a really bad taste in their mouth...in such a close election, these things could be crucial........Posted by: MrBlueSky2004 on March 7, 2004 10:39 PM
No kidding, Mr. Blue Sky.
Name-calling never won middle America. What's next, a repeat of the James Bird truck-dragging ad? Fear-mongering that black churches will be burned if Bush wins? Old people will be eating dogfood? Come ON, just admit that the liberal message doesn't play in between California and the East Coast....Posted by: GOP Blogger on March 7, 2004 10:59 PM
Actually, I like the "Asses of Evil" pins and the obscenities. It shows a lack of class and stature - perfect traits to carry into an election of this magnitude.Posted by: Gays4Kerry on March 7, 2004 11:07 PM
ABSOLUTELY JUVENILE - ANY WOMAN WHO WANTS TO REPRESENT THE USA AS A FIRST LADY SHOULD SHOW A LITTLE MORE MATURITY. THIS IS A CONTEST TO DETERMINE THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD AND SHE COMES UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS WORTHY OF A SIXTH GRADER. JUST BEAUTIFUL. TIPPER GORE IS LOOKING BETTER AND BETTER AS TIME GOES ON. THIS IS A NEW LOW.Posted by: BRIAN LEISTNER on March 7, 2004 11:11 PM
To think of a First Lady representing our nation in this way is appalling. Even Hillary didn't go around publicly calling people obscenities. What kind of example is this for children? She has lost all credibility here. And on top of the article, to see the posts on the board applauding this behavior? Just makes what Rush says about Kerry supporters even more real to me now. Very unfortunate. I would like to think that we had a campaign of two gentlemen worthy for the Presidency and two women worthy of first lady status. The only thing I know for sure is that Mrs. Heinz-Kerry is not worthy of representing this nation as first lady. No woman who expresses herself that way may be considered a 'lady,' in my opinion. I would expect a lot more class from someone of her public stature.
I would dismiss this if it were found on wnd.com or drudge, but to see something this despicable and childish on Kerry's own website. Simply appalling.Posted by: MJY2354 on March 7, 2004 11:28 PM
Didnt you people also think Mondale would win?
What a stupid witch, may all her ketchup spoil....Posted by: bob4699 on March 7, 2004 11:31 PM
The last several posts are the result of this page being linked on the drudge report. so there now the lack of taste from all parts of the political spectrum is spilling in.
while i visit the drudgereport every day, and i think he doesn't play favorites with the political parties on his site (except all those popups selling coulter and novak books), i don't know how repeated use of this a word is "widespread obscenities" - until the moment the site was linked to by drudge, now we will see bad taste.Posted by: stryder on March 7, 2004 11:39 PM
"Asses of Evil"............this is disgusting and so French. Imagine someone as this playing the role of 1st Lady. No, this can not play out. No indeed!Posted by: jcuz on March 7, 2004 11:39 PM
"asses of evil"????
Typical...
it's cute... it ryhmes... it's meaningless...
Still, it has it's allure, cuz most democratic voters only think in 3-word sentences anyway... Posted by: Gabriel_Kacarab on March 7, 2004 11:41 PM
"asses of evil"
Is that french?Posted by: Gabriel_Kacarab on March 7, 2004 11:42 PM
REGISTERED DEMOCRAT THAT HAS AFFIRMED HIS DECISION
I feel sorry for those who are solely Democrat as once again, we have something that won't work or win. I'm from Massachusetts, have Democrat politicians in my family and live in New York, but Theresa's pin symbolizes my long-term feelings toward Kerry. I would love to have certain groups have more rights, but not with a leader with this kind of tone. A negative tone that Kerry hasn't been able to release from since I was a child. Theresa's pin adds the icing and I will now, without a doubt, vote for George Bush. Unless we have an Edwards-Kerry ticket rather than a Kerry-Edwards ticket.
Thanks for being so kind to post this message.
Posted by: Todd Stevens on March 7, 2004 11:46 PM
Talk about vitriolic and hateful... This is a presidential campaign where the would-be first lady is handing out t-shirts calling the president, the veep, the attorney general and the secretary of defense "asses."
This is a new low in american politics... Hillary Clinton, for all her faults, still kept a reasonable level of professionalism and decorum in her words and actions...
but, honestly, should we really expect more from a self-centered gold-digger and a spoiled brat?Posted by: Gabriel_Kacarab on March 7, 2004 11:47 PM
John Kerry has never held a real job in his life. How can any of you beleive this spoiled rich boy who spent so much time as a youth in France can understand how the rest of us live. I own a small business I know what it's like to sweat a payrol. I have WORKED for 25 years. I don't buy into economic theory...I live economics and Tax cuts work.
Particularly for thoes of us that do not have high powered accountants that let us dodge tax....these are the John Kerrys...."do as I say not as I do" Posted by: Gioia on March 7, 2004 11:49 PM
Did anyone notice that the pin was a pun ? I mean at least have a sense of humor. It's satire. You're just uncomfortable with it - for your own reasons. Back in the day when "hell" was a swear word, we had "give 'em hell Harry" in the Whitehouse. I think America is just really uptight, Was this site really "riddled with obscenities" before being linked by Drudge ? Again, the pin was a pun, and it holds a grain of truth, because the lampooned group of leaders don't seem to care what the facts are - they simply cling to their beliefs and convictions, and continue to assert what simply isn't the case. It's truly amazing. So there is a joke here, and it's not going to be funny to Bush supporters.Posted by: stryder on March 7, 2004 11:53 PM
let's make this election a referendum on the last twenty years....kerry's record of opposing reagan/bush and the people as we faught communism and freed countless numbers of eastern europeans and nicaraguans as well...not to mention the current battle against terrorism, caused by the 9/11 plot that was hatched and made possible during the clownton years and the democratization of the savage arab terrorist friendly lands....i say BRING IT ON!!!!Posted by: reagan country on March 7, 2004 11:55 PM
So, that is where "synchronicity" went to after the 80's. Posted by: George Tallent on March 7, 2004 11:56 PM
THE PIN IS A PUN, it's satire, funny... get it ?
Republicans may not find it funny, but nonetheless it is a pun. Calm down. America is so uptight.Posted by: stryder on March 8, 2004 12:02 AM
More proof neither Kerry has anything to offer except bashing what Bush has done or attacking him personally. Just more of the same old lib tribe and the country will not buy it in NOV.
See ya at the RacesPosted by: Beau on March 8, 2004 12:09 AM
no, as usual, with you demonrats, the enemy and the evil isn't the terrorists and their allies(Al qaida ;Iraq, etc.)...the enemy and evil is bush, ashcroft, etc....you guys don't even remember 9/11...you're too busy trying to stop the real enemy, bush....so we're gonna have to remind the people of 9/11, who the enemy really is and who you guys think it is...let's make this a referendum on 9/11...BRING IT ON!!!Posted by: BRING IT ON on March 8, 2004 12:12 AM
STRYDER... so because it's a pun it lacks meaning?
Why did everyone think it was so clever? because somebody in the campaign actually figured out how to ryhme?
Wrong. It was the idea conveyed that was popular. The wit, the pun therein, the cleverness was "icing on the cake" so to speak.
Humor, or said attempt, doesn't mean that the idea and intent behind the words are irrelevant, they obviously are, which is why it was a hit at the party...
But, oh... I'm sorry, this whole time I've been trying to get a point across in this debate and I just realized I strayed from three-word sentences... damn, let me try again.
It was a pun.
It means something.
We comment on meaning.
We laugh in November.
When Kerry loses.
Get it now?
Posted by: Gabriel_Kacarab on March 8, 2004 12:13 AM
A Rush listener...what next? A report on Rush's show tomorrow about how us loose, liberal. lefties are smearing the good names of a bunch of oil crooks and war mongers. Of course that 's if Rush is earth-bound enough to be rational. Oxycontin...more commonly referred to by the coal-miners in West Virginia and Kentucky as Hillbilly Heroin...Posted by: spacer457 on March 8, 2004 12:18 AM
She seems to want her Hubby to be the Chief "Repressor".
"INs" can be vulger, "Outs' must obey the "Thought Police".
"INs will have Armed Security, average folks must Dial 911.
She will have a Tax Payer Supplied & bullet proof limo. "My" pizza driver won't be allowed a kevlar vest or a defensive weapon. Posted by: John K Wilson on March 8, 2004 12:21 AM
A pun - how fitting. A pun is the lowest form of humor, and Kerry is the lowest form of candidate. I say 'keep the slogan'.Posted by: Freep THIS on March 8, 2004 12:21 AM
The party story and the comments remind me of a Garrsion Keillor (PHC) ad; "Brought to you by The Catsup Council of America". I'd bet Lady Kerry/Heinz served catsup sandwiches at the party.
The only suggestion I have on the pin is put an arrow on it pointing upward (toward the one wearing it).
The story reminds one of why the Jackass is the symbol of the party.Posted by: Bigmac on March 8, 2004 12:21 AM
Probably wasn't ketchup at the party... not really foo foo enough and the heinz estate is divested of most of it's ketchup stock anyway... I think they sold it all and bought Walmart...Posted by: Gabriel_Kacarab on March 8, 2004 12:28 AM
Dear Drudge visitors:
All this negativity is an example of why people have grown so tired of the current regime. Please take note - this is a Kerry website. The only reason to post anti-Kerry messages here is to create further division between the parties. If you have a real concern and not just a canned quip from Rush, please feel free to offer up a meaningful discussion. Otherwise, you do nothing but polarize those who visit this site. Trust me, you are not convincing anyone to change allegiances through your attacks.Posted by: Reason on March 8, 2004 12:34 AM
Kerry looks old. Not old but really really old. Did he really take botox? I mean how old would he look if he hadnt? Agent orange must have done a job on him. Is his wife tyring to look like Malficent? What kind of outfit is that?
The button is tacky. I thought east coast intellectuals would have more taste, not bumbersticker mentalities.
That is it, I will vote for Bush. I cannot allow anymore tacky people is the White House.Posted by: Austin on March 8, 2004 12:36 AM
You people are in for a rude awakening when Bush beats Kerry's ass all over the map.Posted by: GOP Rules on March 8, 2004 12:38 AM
Reason:
The 'attacks' would not have come had Mrs. Kerry not passed out the Asses of Evil buttons. Plain and simple, this is not the behavior or maturity of a lady, let alone First Lady. This article doesn't come from Rush, nor Drudge, nor the right wing journalists. It is on plain view on the John Kerry website. If you would like to blame anyone, blame Mrs. Kerry for representing your candidate and purpose poorly.Posted by: MJY2354 on March 8, 2004 12:40 AM
It isn't PUNNY in the least. Neither is J F'n and his comments about 'Foriegn relations'.
I spent a little time in france myself. The frenc have not been friends of the USA for over 100 years. They take our money, our lives and support and lol.
A decorated Vietnam vet.Posted by: R.Lukens on March 8, 2004 12:43 AM
This country needs 4 more years of Laura Bush. She has great dignity, so unlike the crass Teresa Heinz! Spare us, PLEASE! Posted by: Peggy on March 8, 2004 12:44 AM
A Kerry supporter lecturing conservatives about negativity. Now THAT's funny!Posted by: Onesimus on March 8, 2004 12:46 AM
MJY2354:
I agree that more discretion was likely in order, and I thank you for your balanced response. The truth is that campaigns often use this kind of back-handed wit thinking that it will not progress past the insiders. I have little doubt that both campaigns have even worse logos floating around regarding the opposition. That being said, I understand your position and hope that you carry this kind of level-headed approach into future political discussions. That is the real way we make a difference. Posted by: Reason on March 8, 2004 12:49 AM
THOUGHT POLICE ALERT!!!
So expressing our opinions is on this event is now um...
an attack...
thanks for your open mindedness MJY2354.
Posted by: Gabriel_Kacarab on March 8, 2004 12:53 AM
Kerry is a Communist, voted vs school choice for poor children, voted against giving us a tax break, wants to raise taxes, voted against the war, will desecrate the military for his precious govt domestic programs, is more Left than Ted Kennedy, ..........he will end America as we know it.......Posted by: Bix on March 8, 2004 12:58 AM
Reason:
I agree that this isn't just some tactic exclusively used by the Kerrys or the Democrats or the liberals. It is just something that seems to be part of our current political system, no matter what party. I just find it annoying to even have to discuss things like this when there are real issues out there not being addressed.
Also, regardless of the issue, anyone who expects to be a leader of a nation should learn to handle issues in a calm, collected, respectable manner. I read a post that said that Cheney called someone an a-hole in one of his news conferences. That is irresponsible. As is this, as well as calling this Presidential administration a regime, which indiscreetly compares it to the regime of dictatorship in Iraq. It would endear many people, no matter what party they give their loyalty, if a campaign was based on the issues and integrity and handling oneself as a leader and example for the rest of the world. Calling our President and political leaders asses shows a lack of class as well as a lack of respect.
If John Kerry wishes to be the next JFK, maybe he should remember how JFK ran his campaign. It was not doom and gloom and making fun of the incumbent administration. He expressed that the USA was a great nation, but he was going to make it even better! Someone in the Kerry camp needs to steer him in this direction. Get away from the dirty politics and typical smear campaigns and get back to being positive about our nation. Posted by: MJY2354 on March 8, 2004 01:01 AM
"current regime?" Give me a break! This is why the democratic party will never restore its place with the American people. It's run by idiots who seem to care more about bashing the other candidate then having solid issues and solutions. Kerry is no better than Bush. Why get rid of one "regime" for another? At least Bush can stay firm on his issues, whether I agree with them or not. Kerry keeps changing his mind to secure more votes.
Our country is lost. George Washington saw political parties as our eventual downfall. Funny how it's taken over 200 years for people to understand. I was borderline between candidates before I saw this garbage. Now I know I am NOT voting for Kerry. How pathetic!Posted by: DemForever on March 8, 2004 01:06 AM
This low class buttons are what Heinz-Kerry tramp wears. Limit her money! Boycott Heinz products like Bagel Bites, Smart Ones, Budget Gourmets, Star Kist, and all Orieda Fries. Too bad she can not buy the class that Laura Bush has NATURALLYPosted by: charmingtail on March 8, 2004 01:08 AM
"Asses of Evil" . Sure, if I was a raving Bush-hating, conspiracy thoery loving loony toon I would think it was HILARIOUS !! Why are you guys so quick to throw out the evil and hitler tags? You guys are more self-rightous and dogmatic than the religous right ever were. Your loathing of Bush makes you guys so blind to your party's own faults. At least the media keeps the republican party accountable, but the left gets a pass, and now the democrat candidate is a fence riding, botox injecting, say anything to get elected politician. Great, just what we needed, there aren't enough of those in washington.Posted by: boomdude on March 8, 2004 01:09 AM
You know, Kerry is one of those Asses of evil. He needs to come clean about his Iraq war vote, about the Rove style smear ads he ran against a fellow Democrat, about his hiring of a known gangster Torricelli to fundraise for him, about his bribe taking from Bush Pioneer Greenberg from AIG that started his campaign. Rand Beers perjured himself in a court case stating that FARC rebels were trained in Afghanistan by Al-Qaeda!! Under oath he told this whopper to get a case against DynCorp thrown out for National Security reasons. The cae was brought by Ecuadorian villagers were being sprayed with poison by DynCorp in a Kerry backed plan to defoliate the rainforest whose architect is Rand Beers!
Disn't Kerry burn enough villages in Nam? He seems to like it so much he backed Plan Colombia and hired Rand Beers.
Kerry campaign is funded by Citigroup whose board includes exBanamex head Hernandez Ramirez, a known drug smuggler! How can John Kerry who headed the Iran-Contra investigation take funds from these people. He must know that Plan Colombia is a joke. He has got to know that Citibank is the world's largest launderer of dope money in the world.
Heinz has Ken Lay on the board of the Heinz family foundation! Since 1995 he sat on the board of Heinz "environmental" NGO the EDF. Guess who else sits on that board, Fred Krupp advisor to Christie Whitman. Kerry's vote on the securities act broke a tie to over ride a Clinton veto of a bill that diminished the rights of shareholders to sue corporations. A vote for a bill Clinton vetoed and then cautioned lawmakers about. The tiebreaker was Kerry and the bill allowed Ken Lay his wife's good buddy to rob shareholders blind. Kerry backed the Gingrich/AARP medicare bill he now is bitching about, he backed the IWR resolution that gave the President unconstitutional powers to make war, even though according to UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter Kerry had the same information that Bush had about the lack of WMD in Iraq and suppressed that information. Kerry voted for the Patriot Act.
I can't vote for the man and sleep with myself. Electabilty! The guy has no core no principles a flacid powdered up wind bag.
No need to marry Kerry his services can be purchased for the evening.
As a Democrat I find it hard to polish this turd. Thanks DLC/DNC for selling our party down the river for your Wall Street cronies.
Hold your nose and pass the Ketchup because this real deal has been sitting under the heat lamps for at least a week and a half. Posted by: WaysAndMeans on March 8, 2004 01:09 AM
I'm just curious... and yes, this question was raised by Rush, but I'd like to hear the real answer...
Kerry campaign workers notwithstanding, are Dems *really* excited about him being your candidate? I mean God bless him for winning all those primaries, but is there really a groundswell of enthusiasm behind it? How do things like this button and the other stuff Drudge pointed out make you all feel?
Really not digging, just real curious.Posted by: mikeyrat on March 8, 2004 01:15 AM
MJY2354:
Touche. I am impressed that you have taken the time to address that which most people realize, but so far have failed to follow. Unfortunately, negative campaigning is likely to be part of the political landscape for the foreseeable future. Push polling works, attack ads stimulate base voters and let's be honest, most people who get involved in politics like to debate. I hope that people like you rise in the political ranks, I really do. This nation would benefit from an honest discussion of the issues without fear of being attacked for coming to a compromise. May we both live to see the day. Best wishes.Posted by: Reason on March 8, 2004 01:16 AM
Gabriel_Kacarab and "Freep This", Puns are no where near the lowest form of humour. What ? The poster named "bring it on" demonstrates the lowest level of humor - sarcasm. And what is the meaning of the pun, well, as with any humor there will be many meanings. I don't think I take it as seriously as the rhetorical flourish of "Axis of Evil". OK, what does "Axis of Evil" mean ? We imbue the phrase with meaning because the President used it. But how descriptive is it ? It's religious in tone, like there is a religious war. Does it's tone help ? I would say no. And it's overly serious tone means it is ripe for a joke. Or is this whole hullabaloo about "respect" for the Presidency ? Sanctimonious and smug hypocracy is what we get from the Whitehouse, and so the phrase "Axis of Evil" itself becomes funny. The person who takes Bush's phrase "Axis of Evil" very seriously will take the pun very seriously. As for the meaning of the pun, it means "Fools", that's what it means. They are also "Evil" in sudden reversal of meaning common in humour, it's irony you see, and this is because Bush is piously sanctimoniuos that his beliefs about the world get in the way of being able to see the world. He says " I believe what I believe in." The tragedy in the pun is that he makes America look like fools. That's the sad truth within the pun. Not suitable to a black and white, good and evil belief structure. Not suitable for those who attach themselves to rhetoric like "Axis of Evil" like some kind of spiritual reality.
The reasons for 9/11 are complex and don't have much to do with North Korea or Iraq. Now i'm getting serious. Talk of evil will only darken the political world.
The emperor has no clothes - Fools... Asses of Evil.Posted by: stryder on March 8, 2004 01:21 AM
Hahaha! While you republicans whine and cry about mean ol' Teresa's buttons, John Kerry's gonna be talking about the millions of jobs that have been lost on Bush's watch, the out of control spending, the huge tax cuts for the wealthiest 1%, the stonewalling of the 9-11 commision, the outing of undercover CIA agent Valarie Plame by members of the Bush White House (which is TREASON, by the way), the lies that were told about Iraq, the biggest surplus in United States' history that's been turned into the biggest deficit, Bush prancing around and playing dress-up on that aircraft carrier under the big "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" sign, Hailiburton's sweetheart deals, how Bush has alienated us from our allies, what Cheney's been hiding from the American people in regards to his top-secret energy meetings, Ken "kenny-boy" Lay and the boys at Enron, why Bush hasn't caught Osama yet, and on and on and on.
So keep whining and crying about what mean ol' Teresa wears on her blouse, and John Kerry's gonna keep on talking about what's important to HIM, and we will ABSOLUTELY SMASH YOU come Election Day.
KERRY FOR AMERICA!!!!!
Posted by: Petey Wheatstraw on March 8, 2004 01:23 AM
LOL!Posted by: mikeyrat on March 8, 2004 01:25 AM
osama first attacked us in 93..when Billzo the Clownton was president...and in 8 years he didn't do **** and left plenty of unfinished work for the next president....the "surplus" was purely on paper and was a projection if all wen twell in the future...we know what 8 years of clownton brought us: two skyscrapers no longer adorn the skyline...plus and economic success during the clownton years was due to the private sector(republicans) getting control of the congress from the public sector(demonrats) for the first time in your lifetime...so yes i agree , ginrgich and the republicans set us up for a surplus ...however clownton had nothing to do with that and his tenure resulted in 9/11...as for Iraq...we freed 50 million people, shut down the rape rooms..and the women of Iraq and Afghantstan can now learn to reda and write...the tax cuts were for ALL who paid taxes numbnuts, and the wealthiest paid the most...even John F'n Kerry has told you demonrats that you can't love jobs and hate the ONES WHO CREATE THEM!!!make this election about Iraq and 9/11...BRING IT ON....you shameless commies!!!Posted by: Superman on March 8, 2004 01:37 AM
I think that everything that kerry does and has done is simply fantastic. He should not only keep it up, he needs to really bring it on! He has the GOP on the run and he needs to continue his present ways until he has them on the ropes. Show them how hard the jackass kicks!Posted by: crintonbinlyin on March 8, 2004 01:47 AM
Hey, Superman:
If it 9-11 was all Clinton's fault, how come he has readily agreed to meet with ALL the members of the 9-11 commision with NO TIME LIMITS WHATSOEVER...while Bush will only meet with TWO of them and for sixty minutes only, huh?
What's Bush afraid of?
Posted by: Petey Wheatstraw on March 8, 2004 01:48 AM
At least when teresa wears an "asses of evil" button we know she's not referring to the democrat women... or else she'd be wearing a "fat asses of evil" button...Posted by: Just Say "No" to Botox on March 8, 2004 01:52 AM
"He also spoke about the recent Bush Thanksgiving visit to our military in Iraq, carrying a platter laden down with a fake turkey, smiling for a photo op."
My husband is sitting in the middle of the Sunni Triangle. He was there during the holidays, away from his family - and my two children and I missing him terribly.
I admit, Thanksgiving Day was a very hard day for me. I tried so very hard to keep a smile on my face and make a wonderful meal for the three of us even though Daddy couldn't be there. After dinner, that we spent alone since none of my family could make it, I turned on the news just to ease my worry about what may be happening over there.
That's when I saw that our Commander in Chief had landed at Baghdad International - IN Air Force One to visit with the troops on the front line! Of course, my husband was not one of the lucky ones to be there in the area to meet him, but word traveled fast.
A day of loneliness and heartache of not being able to share the day with the man I love most in this world, quickly turned around. I watched the footage and cried. Cried because we have a Commander in Chief who cared enough about those he sent into harms way to LEAVE his own family and go spend some time with those in uniform, in a war zone.
You call it a photo op. You call it whatever you want. But for ME and those like me who have loved ones fighting the war on terror - it meant the world to us. It not only boosted the morale of the soldiers, it helped the families spending the holidays alone (like myself) have a bright spot in an otherwise extremely lonely day. Please don't diminish what it did for us emotionally that day by playing politics with what he did for us. It meant something to military familes and service members, it helped us get through that holiday. Regardless of politics, his gesture for ALL military families and showing us he cares instead of just using words should be commended. None played the political card when he visited with firefighters after September 11th. I believe with all my heart, service members and their families deserve the same amount of respect.
As far as the button Mrs. Kerry passed out - well, it just goes to show that all the money in the world won't buy class.
I keep wondering when things like this are reported (on this site of all places - a promotion tool for Kerry), how Kerry or anyone in his party can compare people questioning his voting record to partisan political bashing. I'm honestly not understanding and I'm quite sure I am not the only American asking that question. I would be horrified if Mrs. Bush passed out a similar button about Kerry. I guess we don't have to worry about that though. Mrs. Bush has shown the American people nothing but class - campaign season or not.
Thanks for letting this old soldier's wife share her thoughts. I wish Mr. and Mrs. Kerry the best, but I do hope from here on out they will clean up their act, their tactics - and their language.
Posted by: Shannon_77 on March 8, 2004 01:53 AM
"He has the GOP on the run."
Yes, he does! He's got them so scared and confused, they spend all their time whining and crying about what Teresa's got on her blouse. They're panicked. And it's starting to show. But just what until the Plame case indictments are handed out (and it'll be soon). Then it's gonna be REAL fun for us democrats. Like watching rats jump off a burning ship.
Posted by: Petey Wheatstraw on March 8, 2004 01:54 AM
Which Party has the Moral High Ground ?
Halliburton is based in Bermuda and pays no US Corporate Federal Tax. We don't want to to open up post-war Iraq bids to companies outside the U.S. ?
Congressional GOP staffers hacked and took Democratic memos about Dem strategy on judicial nominees.
A whitehouse staffer broke a law firts proposed by Bush Sr. forbidding the revealing of a CIA operative's name (in retribution toward her husband's critique of the yellowcake claims).
ALL of the Intelligence used to create a case for war came from a within a single dissident Iraqi group (headed by Challabi)that is so glad we are in Iraq even though none of the Intelligence was correct. The CIA didn't fail, the Whitehouse just wanted to go in. Period.
And on the Gay Marriage issue. If you are uncomfortable with it, join the club, but as far as who is on the right side of History ? It's Gavin Newsom in San Francisco. Time will tell. Again the slower moving Republicans, ban flag desecration, ban abortion, ban gay marriage, ban desegregation (1950's), stop the ERA (1970's and 80's). Descrimination is not legal under the Constitution.
Which party has the moral high ground, and which one poses as if it does, wrapping itself in the flag, invoking Christianity like they speak for all Christians.
The Whitehouse' moral posturing is blatant hypocricy, backed up with either mendacity, or religious self-deception. Do you depend on a phrase like Axis of Evil to help you define your world view ? I hope not.Posted by: stryder on March 8, 2004 01:56 AM
[quote]Why are you guys so quick to throw out the evil and hitler tags? You guys are more self-rightous and dogmatic than the religous right ever were. Your loathing of Bush makes you guys so blind to your party's own faults. At least the media keeps the republican party accountable, but the left gets a pass, and now the democrat candidate is a fence riding, botox injecting, say anything to get elected politician. Great, just what we needed, there aren't enough of those in washington.[/quote]
Boomdude,
I happen to agree with you. I am a lifelong Democrat a bleeding heart liberal and a pacifist.
And you are right! The left is just as guilty as the right. If Move On is going to fight corruption, then fight corruption. This isn't cowboys vs. indians, good guys vs. bad guys. It's the dogs of war fighting over the scraps of a dying empire. We hate big money in politics unless its throwing us a Beverly Hills fundraiser. BS! You are obviously smarter than that, and, I don't care if you are Repub or a Dem, I'm a Liberal Democrat! A pacifist, tax and spend, protect civil liberties, bust monopolies, government cheese, and government regulation of industry. I respect people, and I respect your right to disagree. Not only that I want to hear the other side. I'm not always right. In this election it does not matter if you are Left or Right, that is a debate that has very little meaning any more. Either you believe in the bill of rights and getting these crooks out of politics or you are lying to yourself, and just mukraking, digging up dirt on the other side.
My "loathing" of Bush is based on my loathing of Fascism. Fascism defined is the blending of corporate, state and military power that is also characterized by undying devotion to the state.
My "loathing" of Kerry and indeed the fat cat Republicrats that have hijacked our once proud party is based on the same thing.
For bush the undying devotion to the state is based in conservatism. For Kerry and the Democrats its human rights. Look what Wes Clark and Clinton did in Kosova and Bosnia. The Serbs only crime was resisting US backed terrorists the KLA that were in fact trained by Bin Laden.
In a big way the foreign policy of Bush came directly out of the foreign policies of Clinton who bombed NATO built bases in Afghanistan, a pill factory in the Sudan, destabalized and then carpet bombed innocent civilians in Yugoslavia for 78 days siding with Islamic fundamentalists that came from all over to wreak havoc in Yugoslavia. they even paid young Albanian boys 1500 bucks a head to join the KLA.
Geo global politics and World War do not run in discrete four year cycles. Carter trained the Mujhahideen. The US sponsored the Taliban and gave billions in aid.
Do I think Bush is "Evil" no and I don't hate the man either. The system we have is flawed.
Trans global business needs to grow or die. Breaking even kills business. When it can't grow it merges as a fix. Power consolidates at the top and the rich get richer. I have no problem with this, really it is our right to make money. What I have a problem with is that as a Nation we depend on the goods in other sovereign nations for economic survival, OIL, being the big bad boy. Every economic plan has a corresponding diplomatic and ultimately a military plan. The war in Iraq has everything to do with WMD or Al-Qaeda or what a bad bad guy Saddam is. Hussein in 2000 converting to the Euro sealed his fate! If all OPEC followed suit, our economy would have collapsed! Under oil for food the UN had the power to dole out the contracts for drilling the west desert of Iraq and rebuilding the failing infrastucture. Do you really think we were going to buy oil off the Russians and French in Euros? Under the sanctions the US could not do business there. 28% of California crude comes from Iraq, it works best in the refineries we have here.
That is where the Hitler analogy comes in. The enemies in this war on "terror" are the EU! The end game is Russia, China and India. All nuclear powers! It is all about dollar hegemony and debt leveraged Imperialism.
Don't take it from me. The Journalist that did the work and outlined the Bush family Nazi ties and started pointing out the obvious inconsistencies and outright lies the White House has perpetrated in 9-11 is a Republican! John Buchanan
http://johnbuchanan.comPosted by: WaysAnd Means on March 8, 2004 01:57 AM
Here's the big question for Botox Boy... does he have the nads to fire Terry Mcauliffe? This will show whether or not Botox Boy is the real "leader" of the democrat party or if he is just another clinton lap dog.
My money is on Botox Boy wimping out and not firing terry, rather he'll come out with some bogus statement about how much of an asset mcauliffe is to the party. The clintons still are in charge of the democrats and Botox Boy had better not forget that, especially if he favors his health.Posted by: Just Say "No" to Botox on March 8, 2004 02:03 AM
The "Asses of Evil" button is a bit tasteless, but harmless in the hands of John and Jane Public.
I think the fact that the potential First Lady was promoting them is a cause for real concern politically.Posted by: Draelius on March 8, 2004 02:07 AM
"clinton agreed only because he demanded and was given a copy of the questions he will be asked. Bush was not offered the same deal."
This is a lie. It's also bad manners. Plus, I am only, like, fifteen years old over here, so don't talk to me that way. My father wouldn't like it.Posted by: Petey Wheatstraw on March 8, 2004 02:08 AM
well petey...it's nice to see that the public schools(run by democrats) have successfully brainwashed you to believe lies and created another braindead sheep to do their biddingPosted by: superman on March 8, 2004 02:11 AM
no one died when clinton liedPosted by: stryder on March 8, 2004 02:12 AM
"who will sneakily lie and maniplulate his way through everything, knowing that 43%(first clownton term) and 49%(second clownton) of the voting public are a bunch of communist brainwashed idiots!!"
No, the traitors are in the Bush White House. They outed an undercover CIA agent in retaliation for Joe Wilson telling the truth to the American people about the "Niger yellowcake claim", telling them it was all a lie.
They went after a guy's WIFE, man. That's what the MAFIA does.Posted by: Petey Wheatstraw on March 8, 2004 02:12 AM
Good night. I'm gonna go here pretty soon, too. "Alien" is on cable tonight and I've never seen it. It's supposed to be great!Posted by: Petey Wheatstraw on March 8, 2004 02:20 AM
Petey speaking of Mafia, Torricelli, Kerry and Mcauliffe's fundraiser has a two part series on him at
http://www.laborers.org/AmMafia_Torricelli.html
http://www.americanmafia.com/Feature_Articles_229.html
American Mafia.com, Can't Kerry find someone else to raise funds for his smear campaigns and rascist midnight robo calling against other Democrats?
Get real Petey. Trying to defend Kerry even for me a liberal Dukakis democrat is mighty tough.Posted by: WaysAnd Means on March 8, 2004 02:21 AM
So, I come here and find that John Kerry has the GOP on the run, eh? Coulda fooled me...President Bush and Vice President Cheney seem very, um, unconcerned with what the haughty, French-looking Massachusetts Democrat, who by the way served in Vietnam, has to say. And his dragon-lady wife, for that matter. Asses of Evil? Please... You wanna talk about an ass? How about someone who came back from Vietnam and denounced his fellow officers, only to try and proudly claim the mantle of Vietnam "hero" years later, when the political mood had changed. We know who the real Asses of Evil are...strangely, they both represent my beloved Massachusetts in the Senate.
PS By the way, did you know that John Kerry served in Vietnam? Just making sure...Posted by: C.W. on March 8, 2004 02:22 AM
Quote:I like Del Monte ketchup.
I agree! finally someone else who recognizes the classic del monte. It is by far the best.
Posted by: djgran on March 8, 2004 02:23 AM
C.W. - that was a VERY insulting thing you said about comparing tere$a heinz to the alien and i DEMAND you apologize immediately.... to the alien... unless of course, if the alien is french looking and went to Vietnam, then you can forget the whole thing.Posted by: Just Say "No" to Botox on March 8, 2004 02:34 AM
I'll take the Biblical worldview any day over the continual rehash of moral relativism (whatever feels good do it, live and let live, blah, blah) displayed in many of the posts above and across most of the nation's news rags. The bias is so obvious a grade schooler could figure it out. Well, maybe not a public grade schooler. The filth and vile that comes out with some of the above posts only demonstrates what lies within the heart of the writer. Proverbs 3:5-6.Posted by: Bugsy on March 8, 2004 02:34 AM
"what's your dad say about this"
Well, he's not up right now, but my best guess is that he would say it was an attempt by the right-wing to distract people from the real issues facing this country.
Issues like jobs, the economy, the deficit, outing an undercover CIA agent, etc...
Is it 1:30 central yet? "Alien" comes on at 1:30.
Posted by: Petey Wheatstraw on March 8, 2004 02:35 AM
Just Say No--Notice the Webmaster rushed to expunge what I said, too...apparently there IS one one duty tonight, and all of Kerry's foul language isn't a concern of theirs...but just once point out that Tere$a has the same mechanical, maniacal grin as the monster that will be haunting Petey's nightmares tonight (instead of, presumably, John Ashcroft), and watch how fast they censor you...Posted by: C.W. on March 8, 2004 02:39 AM
speaking of jobs, has anyone asked Tere$a Heinz why she employs more non Americans than Americans in her companies???? What is John Kerry going to do about that????
and i wonder how the $1,000,000.00 in Walmart stock she bought is doing...Posted by: Why the long face, John? on March 8, 2004 02:41 AM
"haunting Petey's nightmares tonight"
I wish. Even though she's, like, three times as old as I am, and already married to a great guy, I think she's kinda hot.
Anyway, I gotta go! Alien's on now and my friend told me it was just about the greatest horror movie ever, so...bye!
Posted by: Petey Wheatstraw on March 8, 2004 02:46 AM
I am a Republican and have never voted for a Democratic Presidential candidate. Come this November I am sorry to say that MUST change. Most of my friends who also voted for Bush will be voting for Kerry as well. We are angry with Bush and his lies.
I cannot support Bush and his war in Iraq. I do not believe it is making our country safer. I do believe it is a serious waste of my tax dollars. Billions of dollars to make sure the damn Iraqi's have medical care, etc., and many hard working Americans can't even go to a doctor! Outrageous!
I'm not thrilled with Kerry, but at least he doesn't smirk and make me want to smack him. As I cast my vote (hopefully there will be no hanging chads), I will be doing so for in my opinion the "lesser of the two asses of evils".Posted by: Tundra Pup on March 8, 2004 02:49 AM
Petey--
Alien definitely ranks as one of the greatest horror movies of all time. But may I suggest another, which gave me nightmares for eight years? It's called "The Man from Hope." Posted by: C.W. on March 8, 2004 02:49 AM
"It's called "The Man from Hope."
LOL! You've got too good of a sense of humor to be a republican. Peace out.
Posted by: Petey Wheatstraw on March 8, 2004 02:52 AM
I'm so glad I made copies of what was posted here before the webfurher took them off. Yet more proof of democrat censorship but I guess it was Bush's fault, eh? Just sent them off to Drudge-wonder will he publish them? Posted by: nevervotingdemagian on March 8, 2004 02:57 AM
"I'm not thrilled with Kerry, but at least he doesn't smirk and make me want to smack him. As I cast my vote (hopefully there will be no hanging chads), I will be doing so for in my opinion the "lesser of the two asses of evils"."
If he's elected, wait 4 years, then you'll just stop voting.Posted by: DemForever on March 8, 2004 02:59 AM
that john buchanon site is dot org .org ! not dot com .com - at least it looks that way to this poster http://johnbuchanan.org/
BTW, nice post Ways and MeansPosted by: stryder on March 8, 2004 02:59 AM
The Asses Of Evil idea is a pun, but not one that a potential First Lady of the United States of America should endorse in public. She came from money, she should know better. Or, being on the New Left - she shouldn't know better. She hasn't earned anything in life, and if she has it doesn't show now.
There will be backlash from this, the Democrats will spin it, the Republicans will gently spin it (they're losing their spines as politicians) and in the end it won't matter because the American Public doesn't care enough any longer.
Speaking of Drudge, wasn't that interesting that the North Korean Radio is pimping Kerry to their people? I get a strange tingle of China-Clinton.
Posted by: 23yroldAmerican on March 8, 2004 03:05 AM
Tundra Pup rocks. That's what I've found amongst the older more conservative people I know. The conservative retirees with enough money to be comfortable - they are in some cases switching parties. And all of them will vote for anyone to remove Bush. It's that bad. I'm seeing a landslide for whoever opposes Bush for the Democrats. But if we get Bush again, I will say we got what we deserve and I will enjoy the scandals. Otherwise I would give up hope. Sad isn't it. ;(
Posted by: stryder on March 8, 2004 03:07 AM
For those that look at the Buchanan site
and everyone else:
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0408/schanberg.phpPosted by: nevervotingdemagain on March 8, 2004 03:07 AM
Man, if this is what Bush and Rove cooked up for March they should just pull the now.
And what's with screaming about free speech when you get moderated? If you make the case for free speech that only means you support the Kerry site to host the messages you're trying to attack. Hello?
I'm sorry, but you freepers need to get some remedial help on your trolling. See if you can schedule in some time with Rush when he's not stoned or in court.Posted by: Citizen Maga on March 8, 2004 03:13 AM
To nevervotingdemagain, why was Kerry chairman of that committee ? Don't get huffy. John McCain would have been great in the role. How did Kerry get singled out for the job, when in your opinion he has buried 500 soldiers of the United States military. He has 500 skeletons in his closet ? Oh come on ...Posted by: stryder on March 8, 2004 03:35 AM
"Alien" was great, everybody! Not the scariest movie ever made, but definately one of the most imaginative, suspenseful and well-crafted. That monster was seriously AWESOME! Plus, I got to see Sigorney Weaver circa '77 in her underwear, man! Whatta chassis! And whatta movie! HIGHLY RECOMENDED!!!
Hey, stryder -- you gonna vote for Kerry if he's the nom? Posted by: Petey Wheatstraw on March 8, 2004 04:46 AM
Well, looks like everybody called it a night 'round here. I'm kinda scared to, though, on account of just having seen "Alien" -- scared I'm gonna have a bad dream about one of those things poppin' outta my chest and going skittering into my closet. Brrr.
Anyway, goodnight all!Posted by: Petey Wheatstraw on March 8, 2004 05:06 AM
What was that noise?!?!Posted by: Petey Wheatstraw on March 8, 2004 05:10 AM
HA HA HA I JUST ATE PETEY WHEATSTRAWPosted by: THE ALIEN on March 8, 2004 05:22 AM
I see the libs finally met a drug addict they don't like.
Posted by: Apache on March 8, 2004 05:53 AM
Oh, I like Rush Limbaugh just fine, but let's face it: he IS a very sick man with a very serious problem.
Plus, he's addicted to drugs.
Posted by: THE ALIEN on March 8, 2004 06:38 AM
Teresa, just goes to show you can take the girl out of the doublewide but you can't take the trailer trash out of her, even though she married her way to millions.Posted by: jef121490 on March 8, 2004 08:10 AM
I'm an independent voter looking for an absence of hypocrisy in a party / candidate. So far, I am dissappointed. Republicans dissapoint me, and so do the Dems. Is there a candidate that doesn't make "waffles" a staple in his diet? Bush and Kerry are both "men of iron".
By the way, the author of the original article should not exalt the "compassion" of Mrs. Kerry. Her "Asses of Evil" pen reveals little compassion toward her targets, doesn't it? Selective compassion is not compassion; it is favoritism!Posted by: Indy on March 8, 2004 08:13 AM
It's funny how people see certain 'buzz' words and react to them. Instead of being completely unaware of this site, I, like many others, stumbled into this site (through the DrudgeReport) giving it a credibility that it may or may not deserve. What amuses me most, is that people instead of seeing what it's about and being privately appalled, decide to share their unwanted opinions (I guess I'm guilty also). What in fact happens is quite the opposite of their intent....they give a credibility to those that their opinion is designed to take it away from. I write this mostly for the fellow Republicans who likewise, are unwittingly fooled into this site, but also to the Democrats who would also share in brandishing this double-edged sword....everytime you rebuttle, you only encourage those who oppose you to also return a rebuttle....Posted by: Mr.E-ondfence on March 8, 2004 08:22 AM
Obscenities will not get you elected???? What was that comment Shrub uttered about the NY Times journalist?
"Big time asshole", if I recall??? OOOpppsss.. I forgot... Shrub actually was never elected, he was placed there by the Supremes... My mistake!Posted by: L.P. on March 8, 2004 08:26 AM
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-limbaugh7mar07,1,5554855.story
"There's No Right to be Heard"
In the interests of full disclosure, I am not a listener of "The Howard Stern Show" and I did not hear firsthand what he said that led Clear Channel Communications to drop his show from six of its more than 1,200 markets. And to further disclose, Clear Channel also distributes "The Rush Limbaugh Show."
After it happened, people were stunned when I came to Stern's defense. The uninformed thought that I, as a conservative, must believe that the government should be in the business of silencing smut and regulating morality. But that was a week ago and the story has stretched. Now the buzz is that Stern was not dropped by Clear Channel for violating its decency standards. No, Clear Channel dropped Howard because he had been critical of President Bush. And, as the tale goes, since Clear Channel is reputedly close to Bush, the president called Clear Channel and told it to get rid of Stern.
So are we now going to popularize loony conspiracy theories from the left-wing fringe to defend Howard Stern? All that's missing here is that Stern discovered that Bush had an ancient relative who used to live on Mars and worked for Halliburton there before it destroyed that planet and arrived here on Earth to destroy Iraq by procuring oil for Dick Cheney's portfolio.
Let me try to restore some reason to this mess. First, Howard Stern was not censored by Clear Channel. He was fired. It happens all the time in radio for whatever reason evil management desires. Just ask me; I was once fired for using the word "therefore" too many times (management said it confused the audience).
Secondly, the 1st Amendment does not guarantee anyone the right to be heard. You can shout all you want but no one has to listen to you.
And a third point: If Clear Channel is firing people for criticizing the administration, then I am next. In fact, I should have been fired two years ago. I have been so critical of the administration's domestic agenda that some of my own listeners have been threatening to abandon me if I don't stop. And I haven't.
From letting Ted Kennedy write the most bloated education bill in history, to the redundant, unnecessary farm bill, to the new Medicare entitlement, I have watched in disbelief as "compassionate conservatism" came to mean "mainstream liberalism."
But what should really concern us is the McCain-Feingold law, which specifies who can criticize a candidate on TV in the days before an election. It prohibits union and corporate funding of advertisements that mention candidates for federal office within 60 days of a general election and 30 days of a primary. The fact the Supreme Court found it constitutional is horrifying.
Yet people are concerned that Howard Stern has been censored? By President Bush?
Stern is not the problem. He is "Romper Room" compared with what we can watch in prime time every night on TV. The difference is that the garbage on TV wins Emmys.
The real hypocrisy here is saying we need to regulate radio but we can't have standards about what appears on TV if it arrives in your home via cable or satellite.
And let's not mention the cultural depravity of much of the music aired on radio today. Artistic expression must be "understood and encouraged." It's the same thing as saying "The Passion of the Christ" is dangerous and anti-Semitic, but a crucifix in a jar of urine is art that we must endeavor to appreciate and not judge prematurely.
If music radio stations can play garbage, if TV can show us filth and museums can exhibit depravity, then broadcasters should have the right to choose what not to air as well, as in the case of Howard Stern. Besides, there are any number of stations free to air his show in markets where it was canceled.
Whatever is happening, it isn't censorship and it isn't George W. Bush. Some may call it reasonable. I call it the free market.
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Rush Limbaugh is a nationally syndicated radio talk show host.
Posted by: MJY2354 on March 8, 2004 08:28 AM
Well, I would have to say that I think they are not all that evil, but they are definetly asses. I take that back, they are evil. We own most of the world oil supply and the price of oil keeps going up. Bush lies about the economy (because of the election). Republicans (Bush) love cheap offshore sweatshop labor. Did I mention the "Patriot Act"? Nice to know the government can spy on you now whenever they want. Hell, I might as well move to China, better record with human rights these days and at least I would have a job.Posted by: MadPoster on March 8, 2004 08:30 AM
It really worries me to think that John Kerry and the rest of his liberal crowd might possibly be in the White House in 2005. After a clean sweep of all the immorality that occupied that house in the prior 8 years I anguish thinking the usual liberal filth will desecrate the White House. What will really hurt is for John Kerry to pick Hilary as his VP. Lord Have Mercy.Posted by: Joseph Loreti on March 8, 2004 08:33 AM
Sen Kennedy wrote the bill No Child Left behind.
And also, how about the Woman and her
baby John Kerry killed in vietnam. They
are just a few. Look what he left behind.
Why won"t John Kerry release his military
medical records to show the extent of
his war wounds.
He was only in vietnam 4 months, and now
he acts like he owns the war.
A Disabled Vet who wants the truth.Posted by: Rex on March 8, 2004 08:36 AM
John Kerry is part of the reason why the attacks on September 11, 2001 occurred. He voted to cut the intelligence budget in the FBI and the CIA. He voted to cut the defense budget. He voted against the Apache helicopter.
Bill Clinton is another person we can thank for the attacks on Sept. 11th.
When the World Trade Center was attacked the first time, Bill Clinton went on television and said that we will hunt down those responsible and punish them to the furthest extent of the law. HE DID NOTHING.
When the embassies in Africa we attacked, killing many American, Bill Clinton said AGAIN, WE WILL HUNT DOWN THOSE RESPONSIBLE AND PUNISH THEM TO THE FURTHEST EXTENT OF THE LAW.
AGAIN, HE DID NOTHING.
THEN WHEN THE U.S.S. COLE WAS ATTACKED AND 17 AMERICANS WERE KILLED,
BILL CLINTON AGAIN SAID THAT WE WOULD HUNT THEM DOWN AND PUNISH THEM TO THE FURTHEST EXTENT OF THE LAW.
NOTHING WAS DONE.
EVEN THOUGH AL QAEDA ADMITTED TO THE ATTACKS, BILL CLINTON AND HIS ADMINISTRATION DID NOTHING.
TERRORISTS TAKE THIS AS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS. ALL TALK AND NO ACTION.
Now we have Jim Kerry (I know it's John, but I think he's more a comedian than a real politician) asking why the intelligence community is in such shambles.
I've got a question for anyone who would like to answer it.
One of the big cries from John Kerry is the outsourcing of jobs.
If he reverses the Bush tax cut, in other words, RAISE TAXES, how is that going to stop businesses from outsourcing? The corporations are going to outsource even more, plus we the tax payers will pay more for goods and services in order to cover for the proposed Kerry tax hike.Posted by: Mike Davis on March 8, 2004 08:41 AM
On a different note...
Mr. Kerry, if you are elected President what will you do about rampant police corruption in the United States? We are nearly living in a banana republic. Why is this allowed to happen? Shouldn't the FBI (or someone) be more proactive about finding these bad cops?
"a majority [of officers] (52.4 percent) agreed or strongly agreed that it is not unusual for police officers to “turn a blind eye” to other officers’ improper conduct (exhibit 3). A surprising 6 in 10 [of officers](61 percent) indicated that police officers do not always report even serious criminal violations that involve the abuse of authority by fellow officers"
http://www.ncjrs.org/pdffiles1/nij/181312.pdf
Thank you for looking into this serious problem.
Posted by: MadPoster on March 8, 2004 08:48 AM
http://www.abortionfacts.com/online_books/love_them_both/why_cant_we_love_them_both_17.asp
http://www.roevwade.org/rvw1.html
I guess it is correct to compare this country to a regime of killing like Iraq. However, the real genocide that has happened, comparable to Hitler's regime has been by the beloved Planned Parenthood. Since 1973, there have been 35 Million abortions. Less than 10% of those have been for reasons to protect the health/life of the mother. So we have had 31 Million babies killed in this nation in the past 30 years since Roe vs Wade. If Kerry comes out to put a stop to abortion except in cases to protect the life of the mother, he will get my vote.
Posted by: MJY2354 on March 8, 2004 09:04 AM
If you truly love and care about America, you will rethink your choice for President. IMO, there isn't one single candidate being fronted today that in any way deserves that high post. Aren't you sick of lies by now?
Kerry claims he knows GW, but Bush claims they do not know each other. They were in the same fraternity house at the same time in college. Of course they know each other. BTW, they are also distantly related, both to each other and to King Edward longshanks.
If they will lie about a college fraternity and whether they knew each other or not at the time, can you trust them to tell the truth about more "important" things?
The lesser of two evils is still evil. This great country needs no more evil in high office.
Bush is a globalist and so is Kerry. The entire line of "the order" is also highly globalist minded. When you think to yourself about why you lost your job to what used to be an "illegal alien", you can thank these elitist baffoons for your unemployment check.
Is America better now than it was 100 years ago? Heck no, not by a longshot. Who has been consistantly running this country since then? That's right, these same elitists that are running for office today, choose wisely.
ArtPosted by: Art Granda on March 8, 2004 09:08 AM
Since MS. catsup likes "puns"
Here's some for 2 more buttons for her:
"The traitor and the tramp"
And (my personal favorite) "The HERO OF HANOI."
This is one lifelong Democrat who WON'T be voting Dem in Nov.Posted by: Nettie on March 8, 2004 09:09 AM
I am an independant voter.... I vote issues not party....
But Kerry seems to want it both ways on every issue!
He voted for GWB going to war with Iraq, yet then said that he thought it meant that we would only go with UN support.
Then he voted against further funding for our troops there.... As if that helps ANYONE AT ALL!
Now I see plenty of Democrats saying how stupid GWB is. If he is so stupid.... Just how stupid is Kerry for getting snookered on the Iraq vote by a "supposedly" total moron?
One would think that a Senator with a 20 year tenure would have been smarter...
btw - the pin about "asses" is truly low class.Posted by: Who's_the_moron? on March 8, 2004 09:16 AM
Democrats: the party of vulgarity.Posted by: chachi on March 8, 2004 09:17 AM
A "asses of evil" pin worn by a lady? being considered as the future first lady of our country. Boy does that ever show where we're heading.
At least she shows us who she is. Her husband would do well to consider doing the same. We've heard bashing for weeks and weeks from him on the campaign trail without a word about those elusive little problems....solutions. Healthcare for all....and paid for how??? No jobs sent out of the country but small businesses paying their employees a minimum wage how??? Getting all of the countries that have hated the United States for generations to work with us how???? The list goes on and on. Get wise guys....You are nominating a man with no answers with a wife with no class!Posted by: jzzlvr13 on March 8, 2004 09:21 AM
No doubt the ketchup lady doesn't possess the stature or ladiness to be first lady. She is an ugly version of hitlary clinton and her criticism of wealthy corporations is hippocritical. Botox won't fix her negative personality and her bad public image will help send Kerry back home to Massachusetts.Posted by: jackslapp on March 8, 2004 09:25 AM
Well, this has been fun, but not nearly as good as the storm here when the news about Kerry's cheating with the intern hit on Drudge.
I am sure there will be something smelly from Kerry before long to entertain us though.Posted by: Libertarian on March 8, 2004 09:41 AM
I shudder to think of how I'll buy my monthly medication if Kerry's elected and my taxes go up. He doesn't give a damn about senior citizens. And having Ted Kennedy holding his hand certainly reassures me...what a joke.Posted by: lima on March 8, 2004 09:47 AM
Reading all the previous comments, I began to wonder who would be a better candidate than Kerry to try to unseat Bush.
I finally came to the conclusion that it would be, ANYBODY ELSE.
Even Pres. Reagan if he were premitted to run again, in his present condition,---NO, in his present condition on his worst day, would be a better choice.
I don't know where you people dig up these so called candidates for the ovel office. Nine pygmys, the best of who was Sharpton. That should give you a clue as to the talent available to you.
BillPosted by: Bill Strouse on March 8, 2004 09:54 AM
....actually what I really like is the dismissive and "go away" response to the Deaniac conspiricy guy up at the top of this blog, who put forth the "skull and bones" crud..........interesting that the "kerry" reaction to the crude is now calling it for what it is, but not to long ago it was just fine when used against the Bushes.........guess you really can't take what you're willing to dish out.............Posted by: Laughing on March 8, 2004 09:59 AM
The truth is that the recession started long before the first Bush budget was signed. There are deficits now,,,hello,,we are in a war. There have always been deficits during conflicts. The democrats talk about medicare, and Bush proposed and passed a medicare bill, something the democrats never did. The tax cuts softened the recession. Every respectable economist out there will tell you that. Bush is taking the battle to the terrorists. Kerry would appease them. Bush is the real leader and Kerry is the real ass of evil. Kerry isn't fit to be senator let alone president and his wife is an ignorant idiot and should stick with soaking up her families fortune as it is the only way she would ever amount to anything.Posted by: GeneRupp on March 8, 2004 10:09 AM
There exists a website that has solid evidence of "mis-doings" inside the upper-eschalon of the Republican party. Perhaps you folks just haven't seen it yet, as it has been effectively "scrubbed" from the public conscienceness. The Washington Times headline is linked here.
http://www.thelawparty.org/WTpage1.gif
This is reality folks and the Republicans are trying desperately to hide this stuff. Read further...take in all you can of it...
Now ask yourself why havn't the democrats brought this up sooner? This story is only 15 years old, I mean are we to wait until all the perps are dead before we shed light on this?
I guarantee you that NO-ONE running for office today has the balls to bring this up.
Why? That's a question for you to answer.
I won't hold my breath.
ArtPosted by: Art Granda on March 8, 2004 10:09 AM
That's why he clammed up about Bush's military record....it drew scruntiny about his and he certainly doesn't want to talk about his band-aid purple hearts. He lost all of 1 day's service for all of them.Posted by: lima on March 8, 2004 10:13 AM
The lack of dignity inherent in the joy some people have over those buttons of Ms Kerry's is a great indicator of personal character. As one of the 99.999% of the Viet Nam Vets who DIDN'T kill any babies, I am familiar with the Kerry's particular "code of honor'. Almost single-handedly, John Kerry turned rumors and his own guilt to an unjust indictment of all Viet Nam Vets. How many thousands of Viet Nam Vets lives were unjustly destroyed because of the treatment they received when they returned stateside because of Kerry's anti-war activities, especially his inuendo laced testimony designed to do as much harm to the U.S. Military and its members as possible. We have not forgotten you, John Kerry.Posted by: radioclute on March 8, 2004 10:13 AM
upgrade asses of evil to "asskiss of evil"Posted by: inyerface on March 8, 2004 10:14 AM
John McCain himself said Kerry's words were mockingly thrown at him by his captors as they tortured him. Posted by: lima on March 8, 2004 10:17 AM
http://normalflora.org/gwb/my_car.jpgPosted by: inyerface on March 8, 2004 10:17 AM
I urge all veterans of the United States NOT to vote for John Kerry. He's not a patriot or hero as he claims. He did more harm to our men in uniform than any person from the Vietnam era. For shame, Mr. Kerry. How do sleep at night?Posted by: lima on March 8, 2004 10:21 AM
Who is the VP? Let us know already!
Dean?
Edwards?
Clark?
Hillary?
I've even heard Ted Kennedy! And some crazy insists it will be McCain but I doubt it.Posted by: archerjoe on March 8, 2004 10:49 AM
"mean-spirited" seemed to be the favorite adjective to describe conservatives when Clinton was in power.
But it was always obvious to me: it is the liberal elites who play the meanest and the dirtiest.
"asses of evil"? The pin says more about the ones who wear it than it does about Bush. Posted by: truelove on March 8, 2004 10:53 AM
Veterans? When I read about what Kerry claimed happened in Vietnam it rang a bell for me. I grew up in a little hick town in Ohio. When I was in my late teens I met a man who had served in Vietnam. He was one messed up dude. He told me and my friends he always had to be careful to control his temper since he got back to the states and that he was involved in crazy stuff.
One time when he was feeling rather talkative he told us about an interesting game him and his squad buddies used to play…and it involved pregnant Vietnamese women. He said they would find a Vietnamese woman that was pregnant and tie her down while they would jump on her belly (with their feet) to see who could make the baby move the most in her belly. Almost as fun as footbal the way he described it. Yea...Kerry made it all up... not. There was some crazy stuff that went on over there, on both sides. I guess war brings out the worst in human nature.
Posted by: SlightlyRight on March 8, 2004 10:54 AM
The thing that should be most appalling to everyone out there is that John Kerry probably the best that the democrat party has to offer. That is a pretty scary thing when you consider that the U.S.A. is married to the two party system.Posted by: sequencer on March 8, 2004 11:13 AM
slightlyright, you're mostly wrong. the guy you met was off before he went to viet nam, or he wouldn't have acted like that when he got there.
my father served two years in Viet Nam, infantry. Said he never saw anyone purposely kill the innocent or abuse the locals. he also said he never saw the kind of drug abuse and insuborndiantion that is portrayed in movies about viet nam.
the vast majority of vets are not sitting on corners begging, wearing "will-work-for-food" signs. The vast majority also did not come back to the U.S. and grow their hair long, join the hippie movement and condemn their country.
the vast majority of vets who returned home alive came back to their old life, scarred, but not destroyed. They did their duty and returned home.
as a son of a viet nam vet, regardless of the politics that got us into the war (I'm no fan of LBJ's part, that is for sure), I'll not forget that the people who worked most against the effort of our soldiers were major network news anchors, wishy-washy senators and congressmen, and the many of the professors and protesters who spoke much and knew little.
My father served with honor. But no one called him a hero, except those of us who lived in his home. for the record, like Kerry, my father has a bronze star, a silver star, and a purple heart. Unlike Kerry, my father doesn't mention his medals to anyone. also unlike kerry, he wasn't able to rack up medals in 4 months on a boat, with no noticable physical damage to himself. and unlike Kerry, he wouldn't be so disrespectful to his uniform, nor the flag of the United States of America as to throw his medals away in protest (or even to pretend he did).
I have a feeling, most vets are more like my father than John Kerry. regular guys, doing their duty in a less than glorious situation. And they love their country.
as a son of a vet, I know patriotism when I see it. I don't see it in Kerry.
(yes, "I question his patriotism." and without apology).Posted by: truelove on March 8, 2004 11:24 AM
asses of evil.......... sorta like "MAJOR LEAGUE ASS-*OLE"...... duh... who uses the bad lingo, ..... stuuuuuf it gops!Posted by: robm on March 8, 2004 11:45 AM
Who do you think the terrorists and tryants of the world want to win in'04, Kerry or Bush?
A vote for Kerry would put you on the side of Hussein, Bin Laden, Arafat and all the other murderers, dictators and criminals of the world. (P.S. If Bush is a "war monger" then so was FDR, Truman, Johnson and even Carter and Clinton-all of whom deployed US Troops in military activity) So, shut the F-ing Kerry up!!!!Posted by: vincefostersghost on March 8, 2004 11:46 AM
John, John, John... So it seems that you, too, weren't exactly champing at the bit to serve your country in Vietnam. Now I understand why you're so keen to chum up with the French and let the UN rule the world:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/03/07/wkerr07.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/03/07/ixnewstop.htmlPosted by: chocoruacal on March 8, 2004 11:50 AM
Maybee she really was raised in the jungle.
I make my own ketchup.
BOZ
Posted by: BOZ on March 8, 2004 11:52 AM
Hey, for what exactly did botoxguy get the purple hearts?Posted by: cliff on March 8, 2004 12:10 PM
Hey, for what exactly did botoxguy get the purple hearts?Posted by: cliff on March 8, 2004 12:10 PM
Hey, for what exactly did botoxguy get the purple hearts?Posted by: cliff on March 8, 2004 12:11 PM
was honorably discharged with three "purple heart" medals after sustaining three wounds
ive heard that these were wounds from mosquitoes...Posted by: cliff on March 8, 2004 12:16 PM
This race is not a race, it is a marathon and it is not important who gets there first, but who endures to the end.It is not Theresa Heinz's confessions, but the decisions of the Almighty God Who has the final say. Jesus said to Pilote,
"...you would not have power over me unless it is given from above" and I add that all is to accomplish His purposes and will.Posted by: O. Varsanyi on March 8, 2004 12:25 PM
You liberals are alll alike, however, most politicians are just that: Politicians and not STATESMEN. A vote for Kerry is a vote for the same old crap that the DEMS have fed america for 70 plus years. More gov't, more handouts,
even more handouts, and outrageous taxes.
Kerry is no hero despite three purps. While Bushie isn't perfect, he's done an outstanding job considering the mess the Clintons left behind.
A vote for Kerry is a vote to send America right down the tubes. Posted by: jimbob on March 8, 2004 12:28 PM
MJY2354:
If Sen. Kerry wants to imitate the earlier JFK he could always lie about the U.S. being insufficiently prepared to defend itself against its enemies. Kennedy knew there was no "missile gap," and that Nixon couldn't rebut the charge without revealing what our intelligence really knew about Soviet capabilities. I suppose accusing Bush, or mentioning the accusations of those wearing tinfoil hats, regarding supposed failures in preventing the 9/11 attacks would qualify.
I am amused that those who drummed hard for the BCRA/McCain-Feingold monstrosity are co-hosting events with MoveOn.org. Does that mean that MOO's "independent expenditures" for anti-Bush ads are tainted because of this campaign coordination? Mind you, I think that ought to be legal, but the raving hypocrites who supported strangling the first amendment ought to be hoist with their own petard. Oh, what a chuckle I would have if the FEC came down on the Kerry campaign like a ton of bricks! It'd serve `em right!
Now, calm down, donkeys. I'm not voting for W, either, but your guy is no peach, either. Posted by: Another Libertarian on March 8, 2004 12:44 PM
Jon Flip-flop Kerry is a waste of ink on an election ballot. HE might be good at being a jerk but he's not qualified for President George W. Bush's job.Posted by: JFK on March 8, 2004 12:52 PM
I read or heard that at least one of Sen Kerry's Purple Heart wounds was self inflicted so he could get out of Vietnam early. Is that true? And will the senator release all of his military records? Posted by: JJ Burger on March 8, 2004 12:52 PM
Liberatarian:
I have to admit that I do not know all the details of JFK's campaign for the Presidency, but only the general stance he took of being positive about the nation. I read that instead of saying that the nation was in peril and they needed to elect him to fix it, he considered the nation great, and he would make it greater.
That's a great parallelism comparing the 'missle gap' campaign to what they are doing with the 9/11 intelligence. Pretty scary. I guess he is running his campaign similar to JFK afterall. It's little secret that Kerry wants to get rid of the CIA and intelligence community altogether and leave our security in the hands of the UN. So by using this strategy of calling into question the credibility of our intelligence community, works right into his plan. Obviously by giving out all the info on our intelligence, it will hinder their success by revealing their tactics of acquiring intelligence.
So it seems like this is one big strategy to bring down the intelligence community for his own benefit and long term goal of 'outsourcing' our national defense.Posted by: MJY2354 on March 8, 2004 12:55 PM
Teresa's a butthead, Kerry is a commie. Is this what you call "connecting with the real people"?
Dubbya for prezPosted by: Goofus on March 8, 2004 12:57 PM
PS-
DRUDGE ROOLS, YOU GREENIE WEENIES.
DON'T MESS WITH MY DRUDGE.Posted by: Goofus on March 8, 2004 01:03 PM
Teresa, the grifter and gold digger saw that her rich husband, John Heinz was not ambitious enough for her.
"Unfortunately", he died prematurely.
Now she has found a gold digger in arms, a gigolo with the ambition.
Her background should be thoroughly checked out. She is dangerous.
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