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The Facts Show 2.4 Million Jobs Created Under Bush
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Posted on 03/06/2004 11:14:49 PM PST by MaineVoter2002

The Facts Show 2.4 Million Jobs Created Under Bush

The media and Democrats keep repeating it over and over: "2.3 million jobs lost" since President Bush took office. His could be the worst job record since before World War II, they claim. One little problem: It's not true.

Not only has there been no net loss of jobs during the Bush administration, there has been a net gain, even with the devastation of 9/11. At least 2.4 million jobs have been created since the president took office, 2 million of those in 2003. The gains more than offset the losses.

While Democrats continue to beat their election-year drums about outsourcing, manufacturing losses, unemployment and slow growth in employment, America's economy has been steadily creating jobs.

At least 366,000 jobs have been created in the last five months, over 100,000 of those in January, White House press secretary Scott McClellan has noted. And though the eight-month recession "officially" ended in November, economic indicators are surprising economists and pointing toward a take-off in the recovery.

The signs:

The 5.6 percent unemployment rate is the lowest in two years and below the average of the 1980s (7.3 percent) and '90s (5.8 percent), and still continues to drop.

The nation's economic output revealed the strongest quarterly growth in 20 years. The data for the fourth quarter of 2003 show that the civilian labor force rose by 333,000, while the number of unemployed in the labor force dropped by 575,000. Even better, the number of so-called discouraged workers declined in December.

Consumer spending grew between 4 percent and 5 percent last year, and real hourly earnings rose 1.5 percent. Real earnings have risen over the last three years.

Exports doubled to 19 percent in the fourth quarter, compared to less than 9 percent in the third.

The number of American workers is at an all-time high of 138.5 million, a level never before attained in U.S. history.

Jobless claims are 10 percent below the average of the last 25 years and still falling. Hiring indices are up, even in manufacturing. Productivity growth is extremely high.

Now the doomsayers are criticizing the validity of the unemployment rate, which at 5.6 percent does not fit their gloomy story. Faulty Counting The problem is the areas of biggest job growth are usually not even being counted at all.

Though 75 percent of jobs are created by small companies, according to the Small Business Administration, this sector's entrepreneurial activity and the jobs it creates are left out by Washington bean counters when calculating official new job numbers. The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) does its Payroll Survey by phoning businesses to crunch the number of jobs that have been gained or lost. This is where Democrats grabbed onto their lifeline, the 2.3 million figure. Look only at the Payroll Survey, and there has been a gain of only 522,000 jobs since Bush took office.

But here's the rub. The Household Survey is used to determine the unemployment rate and accounts for those who are self-employed, and small emerging businesses that might be overlooked by the Payroll Survey. But the number of U.S. firms isn't static, and the "fixed list" used by the BLS for phoning established businesses does not reflect new entrepreneurial activity.

People are called at home and asked if they have jobs, or if they are in the market for a job. In contrast to the Payroll Survey, the Household Survey shows that 2.4 million jobs have been created so far during Bush's time in office. As Economy.com writer Haseeb Ahmed recently wrote, "something is amiss in the [Payroll] survey."

Credit Where Credit Is Due

That's not all. When doomsayers, and media spoiling for a fight in an election year, laughed at Bush's prediction of 2.6 million new jobs this year, not everyone was scoffing.

Ahmed, Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan and others hardly batted an eye. Greenspan said it was "probably feasible" the economy would reach the Bush administration's forecast of adding 2.6 million jobs this year, provided growth continues and the productivity rate slows to more typically levels.

"I don't think it's 'Fantasyland,'" Greenspan said. "I agree with him," said John Ryding, chief market economist at Bear Stearns. "I think that we will create 2.5 million, possibly more, jobs over the balance of the year."

Ahmed is convinced that "the revision patterns of the early-1990s recovery cycle" will be repeated. A total of 1.4 million job gains were revised upward to 2.9 million in the first 21 months after the end of the last recession, just after Bush Sr. was voted out of office.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/2/25/171833.shtml

If elected, will John Kerry get credit for the jobs created under the Bush administration?

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The Facts Show 2.4 Million Jobs Created Under Bush

The media and Democrats keep repeating it over and over: "2.3 million jobs lost" since President Bush took office. His could be the worst job record since before World War II, they claim. One little problem: It's not true.

Not only has there been no net loss of jobs during the Bush administration, there has been a net gain, even with the devastation of 9/11. At least 2.4 million jobs have been created since the president took office, 2 million of those in 2003. The gains more than offset the losses.

While Democrats continue to beat their election-year drums about outsourcing, manufacturing losses, unemployment and slow growth in employment, America's economy has been steadily creating jobs.

At least 366,000 jobs have been created in the last five months, over 100,000 of those in January, White House press secretary Scott McClellan has noted. And though the eight-month recession "officially" ended in November, economic indicators are surprising economists and pointing toward a take-off in the recovery.

The signs:

The 5.6 percent unemployment rate is the lowest in two years and below the average of the 1980s (7.3 percent) and '90s (5.8 percent), and still continues to drop.

The nation's economic output revealed the strongest quarterly growth in 20 years. The data for the fourth quarter of 2003 show that the civilian labor force rose by 333,000, while the number of unemployed in the labor force dropped by 575,000. Even better, the number of so-called discouraged workers declined in December.

Consumer spending grew between 4 percent and 5 percent last year, and real hourly earnings rose 1.5 percent. Real earnings have risen over the last three years.

Exports doubled to 19 percent in the fourth quarter, compared to less than 9 percent in the third.

The number of American workers is at an all-time high of 138.5 million, a level never before attained in U.S. history.

Jobless claims are 10 percent below the average of the last 25 years and still falling. Hiring indices are up, even in manufacturing. Productivity growth is extremely high.

Now the doomsayers are criticizing the validity of the unemployment rate, which at 5.6 percent does not fit their gloomy story. Faulty Counting The problem is the areas of biggest job growth are usually not even being counted at all.

Though 75 percent of jobs are created by small companies, according to the Small Business Administration, this sector's entrepreneurial activity and the jobs it creates are left out by Washington bean counters when calculating official new job numbers. The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) does its Payroll Survey by phoning businesses to crunch the number of jobs that have been gained or lost. This is where Democrats grabbed onto their lifeline, the 2.3 million figure. Look only at the Payroll Survey, and there has been a gain of only 522,000 jobs since Bush took office.

But here's the rub. The Household Survey is used to determine the unemployment rate and accounts for those who are self-employed, and small emerging businesses that might be overlooked by the Payroll Survey. But the number of U.S. firms isn't static, and the "fixed list" used by the BLS for phoning established businesses does not reflect new entrepreneurial activity.

People are called at home and asked if they have jobs, or if they are in the market for a job. In contrast to the Payroll Survey, the Household Survey shows that 2.4 million jobs have been created so far during Bush's time in office. As Economy.com writer Haseeb Ahmed recently wrote, "something is amiss in the [Payroll] survey."

Credit Where Credit Is Due

That's not all. When doomsayers, and media spoiling for a fight in an election year, laughed at Bush's prediction of 2.6 million new jobs this year, not everyone was scoffing.

Ahmed, Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan and others hardly batted an eye. Greenspan said it was "probably feasible" the economy would reach the Bush administration's forecast of adding 2.6 million jobs this year, provided growth continues and the productivity rate slows to more typically levels.

"I don't think it's 'Fantasyland,'" Greenspan said. "I agree with him," said John Ryding, chief market economist at Bear Stearns. "I think that we will create 2.5 million, possibly more, jobs over the balance of the year."

Ahmed is convinced that "the revision patterns of the early-1990s recovery cycle" will be repeated. A total of 1.4 million job gains were revised upward to 2.9 million in the first 21 months after the end of the last recession, just after Bush Sr. was voted out of office.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/2/25/171833.shtml

If elected, will John Kerry get credit for the jobs created under the Bush administration?

1 posted on 03/06/2004 11:14:49 PM PST by MaineVoter2002
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To: All
Sorry about the duplicated post within the thread.

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2 posted on 03/06/2004 11:18:45 PM PST by MaineVoter2002
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To: dixiechick2000; onyx; Howlin
Over here ..
3 posted on 03/06/2004 11:28:11 PM PST by Mo1 (Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
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To: Mo1; Texasforever

You forgot to ping, Tex.
4 posted on 03/06/2004 11:30:32 PM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Timothy McVeigh)
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To: MaineVoter2002
The gains more than offset the losses.

So the number of people in the US workforce has remained constant for 3 years?

Also this article manages to skate over that a lot of this job creation is in government, not in private industry.
5 posted on 03/06/2004 11:33:06 PM PST by lelio
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To: MaineVoter2002
Bump!
6 posted on 03/06/2004 11:37:02 PM PST by MadMoo
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; Radix; HiJinx; Spiff; JackelopeBreeder; Da Jerdge; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; ...
ping!
7 posted on 03/06/2004 11:37:14 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Mo1; Howlin
All anyone has to do to dispell the democrats charges of 2.3 million jobs lost under President Bush is to look at how many people were working on January 20th, 2001 to how many are working today, you will see that there is almost 3 million more people working today than there was on Jan. 20th, 2001

BTW, This is exactly the formula Bill Clinton used to claim that his administration created 22 million new jobs

9 posted on 03/06/2004 11:38:03 PM PST by MJY1288 (There's no leaders on the path of least resistance, ask John Kerry, he's been paving it for 32 yrs.)
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To: onyx
Yeah damit I want to be pinged.
10 posted on 03/06/2004 11:38:33 PM PST by Texasforever (When democrats attack it is called campaigning)
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To: MaineVoter2002
One talking head earlier this evening stated the current 5.6% unemployment figure is lower than the average unemployment for the full eight years of Clinton's term in office. Now that's a factoid that seldom gets airtime.
11 posted on 03/06/2004 11:39:40 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: laylaune
You're a little out of control tonight, aren't you?
12 posted on 03/06/2004 11:40:02 PM PST by Howlin (Charter Member of the Incredible Interlocking Institutional Power!!!!)
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To: JohnnyZ; Conservobabe
FYI.
13 posted on 03/06/2004 11:40:29 PM PST by Howlin (Charter Member of the Incredible Interlocking Institutional Power!!!!)
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To: Mo1; onyx; Howlin
IIRC, Clinton cooked the books on employment. I believe he changed the criteria to be included, so it appeared the employment rate was higher. Maybe that has something to do with some misconceptions, or downright lies by the 'Rats, now.
14 posted on 03/06/2004 11:41:04 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: lelio
So the number of people in the US workforce has remained constant for 3 years?

It makes perfect sense. The aging population that is retiring. We will continue to see the labor force going down because after the Baby-boomers the next generation is much smaller.

15 posted on 03/06/2004 11:41:34 PM PST by Texasforever (When democrats attack it is called campaigning)
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To: MaineVoter2002
The Facts Show 2.4 Million Jobs Created Under Bush

The downside is that half of those jobs created are for government employees, and the other half for illegal aliens.

16 posted on 03/06/2004 11:42:03 PM PST by SpyGuy
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To: Texasforever
Ping!

;o)
17 posted on 03/06/2004 11:42:04 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: Texasforever
Yeah damit I want to be pinged.







LOL-LOL-LOL I know. :)
18 posted on 03/06/2004 11:43:05 PM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Timothy McVeigh)
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To: SpyGuy
The downside is that half of those jobs created are for government employees, and the other half for illegal aliens.

You made the claim now back it up.

19 posted on 03/06/2004 11:43:33 PM PST by Texasforever (When democrats attack it is called campaigning)
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To: dixiechick2000
Dang that felt good.
20 posted on 03/06/2004 11:44:19 PM PST by Texasforever (When democrats attack it is called campaigning)
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