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No Sean Penn: John Rhys-Davies, without Oscar censors.
National Review Online ^ | March 05, 2004 | Andrew Leigh

Posted on 03/05/2004 12:01:46 PM PST by xsysmgr

LOS ANGELES — Another Academy Awards ceremony has come and gone. If you're like me, you spent much of it on the edge of your seat, silently praying that none of the winning actors would launch into a noxious left-wing tirade, featuring such sagacious bromides as "War is Not the Answer" (to what?).

It's a common perception that Hollywood is a liberal town, and rightly so. There are a few bold souls, however, who are willing to swim against the tide.

One of these starred in the film that won the most Oscars last Sunday night. He's John Rhys-Davies, who played Gimli in The Lord of the Rings (as well as Sallah in the Indiana Jones movies, in addition to many other roles). His comments over the past month or so regarding world affairs have ignited a firestorm of controversy in his home country of Great Britain.

Rather than taking up the banner of global warming, AIDS, world peace, or some other trendy cause, as most of his colleagues are prone to do, the Welsh-born actor has chosen as his particular hobbyhorse the growing demographic crisis in Europe.

He also regularly heaps praise on President George W. Bush and his war on terror, including the invasion of Iraq. "There are at least four or five [officials in the Bush administration] who could hold their own against the Founding Fathers," he says. This is blasphemous speech in Europe and Hollywood alike.

In a recent interview at a European-style café near Hollywood's Universal Studios, Rhys-Davies jokes about his candor, saying with a laugh that betrays a little nervousness, "Every time I open my mouth, I may be committing career suicide."

But he does not hold back, flatly stating, "I think that radical Islam has declared war on the West."

"It's not a question of the decency of Muslims," he says, many of whom he admires and respects. But "radical Islamist groups are controlling, manipulating, and forming the attitudes of Muslims throughout Europe," he adds. And Rhys-Davies fears that, due to their demographic advantages, their culture may eventually swamp or supplant the indigenous cultures of Europe.

Europeans are having fewer and fewer children, while migrant populations, predominantly Muslim, are growing much faster. Most European fertility rates have dropped so much that they have declined below the break-even point, to the degree that populations are actually beginning to shrink.

If the current trend continues, Rhys-Davies says, "The population of Germany at the end of the century is going to be 56 percent of what it is now. The population of France will decline to about 52 percent."

Meanwhile, Muslim immigrants are having babies at a much faster clip, so that in time, they may become the majority population throughout Europe.

"Last year, 56 percent of the babies born in Brussels were Muslim," Rhys-Davies notes. "In a matter of 20-50 years, we are going to see two to three countries become predominately Muslim — Holland, France, and possibly Germany."

This sort of talk, predictably enough, has provoked cries of "racism" from Muslim advocacy groups and left-wing critics back on his home turf. "We want an apology," demanded Mohammed Javed, chairman of the Muslim Society for Wales. "This could stir up racial hatred in society. It's ignorance, he should learn more about Islam...before he makes these comments."

At the same time, the far-right British National party, a fringe white-supremacist group, has tried to co-opt Rhys-Davies's message by reprinting some of his quotes on flyers they distributed at Lord of the Rings movie showings around the United Kingdom. Rhys-Davies strongly repudiated the BNP for their action; he belongs to the Conservative party, which has condemned the BNP as well.

"There is a demographic catastrophe happening in Europe that nobody wants to talk about, that we daren't bring up because we are so cagey about not offending people racially. And rightly we should be. But there is a cultural [aspect] as well," Rhys-Davies has said.

It is the culture of fundamentalist Islam that concerns Rhys-Davies the most. "When I look at contemporary Islam, I see homophobia, forced conversion, genital mutilation, slavery, two million people being put to death in the Sudan because of their religion."

He also sees its hand in an ugly trend: "There is a rise in anti-Semitism in Europe unprecedented since the 1930s," he laments.

In his view, "Fundamental Islamism is a particularly brutish and unpleasant form of fascism." He fears that if it becomes the dominant culture in Europe, it will wipe out all that is good about Western culture.

"It's easy to lose a civilization," Rhys-Davies warns. "The values of Western civilization have brought so much good to the world: the notions of equality, democracy, tolerance, abolition of slavery."

Rhys-Davies sees these same themes espoused in The Lord of the Rings, observing, "[J.R.R.] Tolkien knew that civilization is worth fighting for. There are times when a generation is challenged and must fight to defend their civilization from annihilation."

Of course, others on the set didn't see it the same way. Viggo Mortensen, who played Aragorn in The Lord of the Rings, wore a "No Blood for Oil" T-shirt during a promotional interview for the movie on Charlie Rose's PBS show.

Ironically, Mortensen's character in the movies is a military leader. And many have drawn parallels between the conflict in The Lord of the Rings with the war on terror. With a twinkle in his eye, Rhys-Davies confides that a friend whispered to him while watching Mortensen in The Return of the King, "Does he realize he's George Bush?"

Conservatives indeed are scarce in Hollywood. "You introduce a Republican to another in Hollywood, it's like a meeting between two Christians in Caligula's Rome," he observes.

Rhys-Davies does not appreciate the images of President Bush and America broadcast by Western media. "When Hollywood constantly projects that the West is weak, the military is corrupt, that big business is corrupt, it has to have an influence on Muslims," he says.

Rhys-Davies used to be a radical leftist, as a university student in the '60s. He first started to come around when he went to the local hall to hear a young local member of parliament by the name of Margaret Thatcher. "I went to heckle her," Rhys-Davies says. "She shot down the first two hecklers in such brilliant fashion that I decided I ought for once to shut up and listen."

It was the beginning of his eventual transformation into a conservative. Rhys-Davies's father was a colonial officer, but from a poor "working-class socialist" background, which Rhys-Davies absorbed into his bloodstream. He spent a large portion of his childhood in Tanzania, where his father was posted.

He says, "As a child, my father showed me a dhow in the harbor at Dar es Salaam and said, 'You see that dhow? Twice a year it comes down from Aden filled with boxes of goods. On the way back up it's got two or three black boys on it. Those boys are slaves. And the U.N. won't let me do a thing about it.'"

Rhys-Davies says that his father predicted our current state of affairs, once telling his son, "The next world war will be between Islam and the West. And it will happen in your lifetime."

— Andrew Leigh is a screenwriter based in Los Angeles.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: lotr; oscars; rhysdavies
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To: skinkinthegrass
Dwight Schultz, possibly greatest living TV actor and conservative.
41 posted on 03/05/2004 2:38:55 PM PST by Tax-chick (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: xsysmgr
Ironically, Mortensen's character in the movies is a military leader. And many have drawn parallels between the conflict in The Lord of the Rings with the war on terror. With a twinkle in his eye, Rhys-Davies confides that a friend whispered to him while watching Mortensen in The Return of the King, "Does he realize he's George Bush?"

Best line in the whole article. Dumb Viggo once said that Bush was Sauron. What a maroon!

42 posted on 03/05/2004 2:40:46 PM PST by CharlieOK1
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To: Hap; Xenalyte
Gimli ping!
43 posted on 03/05/2004 2:42:24 PM PST by Bacon Man (Beware the lollipop of mediocrity. Lick once and you suck forever.)
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To: ecurbh; 2Jedismom; 300winmag; Alkhin; Alouette; ambrose; Anitius Severinus Boethius; artios; ...
pinging some of the ringers! ecurbh, you have the full list. add me to it by the way. My old name CharlieOK may still be on the list. Had to add the '1' when I forgot my password.
44 posted on 03/05/2004 2:45:07 PM PST by CharlieOK1
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To: xsysmgr
Welsh-born

That explains it.

45 posted on 03/05/2004 2:49:31 PM PST by FourPeas
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To: Publius6961
Shogun, ah yes, I remember that, too. Wasn't he also in the TV version of Noble House?
46 posted on 03/05/2004 2:54:25 PM PST by FourPeas
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To: xsysmgr

47 posted on 03/05/2004 2:55:02 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Is it time to water the tree of Liberty ?)
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To: CharlieOK1
'Bout time we got another Okie on the Ring Ping list!
48 posted on 03/05/2004 3:00:31 PM PST by 2Jedismom (HHD with 4 Chickens)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
He also was a main charater in 'Sliders', a dimension-spanning series on the Sci-Fi Channel. Always had learned dignity with a humorous sense. I miss him!
49 posted on 03/05/2004 3:08:04 PM PST by BobS
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To: Servant of the 9
You know very well that pagans were persecuted and killed for their faith all over Europe from the time Christians became a majority until the witchcraft trials ended in the 18th century.

"For their faith"??? LOL!

No, I do not know any such thing.

I do know that counteless forgeries were invented during the reformation. So my question still stands: can you be more specific? Time and place and circumstances please.

If your memory has taken a flight south, I would be happy with bibliographical references. I could recommend two: A concise History of the Crusades, by Madden, and Inquisition, by Peters. I will reserve the other dozen or so for the future; I would hate to short circuit you with reality. Let's just try to limit a historical discussion or claims to facts, not fiction or fantasy.

50 posted on 03/05/2004 3:12:07 PM PST by Publius6961 (50.3% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks (subject to a final count).)
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To: xsysmgr
"Does [Viggo Mortensen] realize he's George Bush?"

BWAAAAHAAAAHAAAAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!

51 posted on 03/05/2004 3:16:48 PM PST by Redcloak (cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese)
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To: Salamander
"I can't imagine how -any- Welsh, Irish or Scots could support any "liberal/PC/multicultural" views."

They likely don't! The way it works is the citizens work hard and are highly taxed. So highly taxed that having children isn't a logical choice.

The immigrants arrive and get all sorts of welfare support and multiply like roaches.

52 posted on 03/05/2004 3:19:06 PM PST by BobS
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To: Servant of the 9
Christians are the majority in many countries, no killings.

You say that is because they do not need to.......yet the point is that Muslim fundamentalist will rule by the sword, just as they do today, without any apparent need.

The wrongs done by early century so-called Christians do not in any way bring even fundamentalist Christians to par with their Muslim counterparts.

No man can kill for his Christian Faith and actually be a Christian.

53 posted on 03/05/2004 3:33:43 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (We should never ever apologize for who we are, what we believe in, and what we stand for.)
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To: Servant of the 9
You know very well that pagans were persecuted and killed for their faith all over Europe from the time Christians became a majority until the witchcraft trials ended in the 18th century.

  I didn't know that - let alone very well. From my reading of European history, it appears that most of their religious warfare was dedicated either to the Crusades or to persecuting heresy. Heresy, note, is not the pursuit of pagans - they were generally left alone - but the pursuit of people who claim to follow the same religion, but have different ideas of how to do it.

  The Crusades, well, they were a mix of religious fervor with counter-attacking warfare. Partly political, partly religious. But they didn't last from the time of the Holy Roman Empire until the 18th century...

  So, can we have some details, rather than a blanket statement. Maybe some specific examples of persecution? A specific religion? And, just to make it harder, I'll stipulate that Jews are not pagans (I know you can find several examples of anti-Jewish persecution.)

Drew Garrett

54 posted on 03/05/2004 3:37:25 PM PST by agarrett
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To: xsysmgr
[ It was the beginning of his eventual transformation into a conservative. Rhys-Davies's father was a colonial officer, but from a poor "working-class socialist" background, which Rhys-Davies absorbed into his bloodstream. ]

I noticed this, as the unseen evil of socialism...(Communism "IS" socialism)
as "Radical Son" by David Horowitz, testifies.. for one book.

55 posted on 03/05/2004 3:46:34 PM PST by hosepipe
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To: agarrett
Heresy, note, is not the pursuit of pagans - they were generally left alone - but the pursuit of people who claim to follow the same religion, but have different ideas of how to do it.

How very convenient.
The Christians redefined the prior religions as 'Devil Worship' and thus heresy, and then started burning them.

So9

56 posted on 03/05/2004 3:47:57 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Screwing the Inscrutable or is it Scruting the Inscrewable?)
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To: CharlieOK1
Dumb Viggo once said that Bush was Sauron. What a maroon!

Sure! It all fits. The Fellowship is actually an Al Qaeda cell, the ring is an airliner, and Mt. Doom is the World Trade Center! It all makes sense!

Okay, I'll stop now.

57 posted on 03/05/2004 3:48:38 PM PST by Heyworth
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To: Servant of the 9
The Christians redefined the prior religions as 'Devil Worship' and thus heresy, and then started burning them.

  Well, in my original quote, I was referring to heretics such as the Cathari, the subjects of the Albigensian Crusade. Among their heresies was the idea that Communion was invalid unless the Priest was himself pure - through confession and penance. This does not, to my mind, qualify as a "prior religion" - they were most certainly Catholic. Also, it was this Crusade that gave rise to the well known saying, "Kill 'em all and let God sort it out."

  But, if you have an example of some pagan religion being defined as Devil worship, I'm still open to hearing about it.

Drew Garrett

58 posted on 03/05/2004 5:06:45 PM PST by agarrett
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To: Servant of the 9
No, it doesn't make it right. Some things done in the name of Christianity in the past, and even now, are appalling and shameful. However, they are against Christian teaching. Love your enemy, love your neighbor as yourself, turn the other cheek, every person (no matter their age, mental or physical capacity, race, sex) is equally worthy of your love and care because they are loved by God We believe that all are hopelessly lost and evil without the assistance and redemption of a loving God, through Christ.

That is part of the reason why horrid things done in the name of Christianity are relatively infrequent, and modest in comparison to those done in the name of non-religious political goals - Pol Pot, Mao Tse Tung, Stalin, Hitler - and more recently, Saddam Hussein. It doesn't give Christianity a free pass for not intervening more aggressively in eras like Hitler's Germany with the Jews. However,history also shows Christians founding and supporting hospitals and universities, anti-slavery movements, pro-life and anti-euthanasia, assistance to the poor and sick, and so forth because of their faith.

Islam, on the other hand, talks in terms of jihad, of subjugating or killing those who don't believe. No one of the Islamic faith knows how they are viewed by Allah until they die, with one exception. Someone who dies in Jihad immediately goes to heaven.

The differences in these beliefs affects behavior. There are lots of folks in both faith systems that don't particularly live what they think they believe - and just want to be left alone to make their own decisions and raise their families. For Christianity, you might call those folks "Christmas Christians" - who love that baby in a manger story and all the decorations and presents, but it doesn't alter their behavior much. However, those who take their belief seriously between these two faiths would strongly tend toward completely different actions.


59 posted on 03/05/2004 5:37:41 PM PST by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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To: skinkinthegrass
There are more than you might think; waiting in the wings for their cue..
60 posted on 03/05/2004 5:42:11 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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