Report: Israel broke Iranian code

Jerusalem Post ^ | Mar. 2, 2004 | Yaakov Katz

[Alouette]

A secret Israeli intelligence unit, known as Unit 8200, broke a sophisticated Iranian code enabling Israel to monitor communications, including contacts with Pakistan regarding the development of Iranian nuclear weapons, the New Yorker magazine reported on Tuesday.

"On a trip to the Middle East last month, I was told that a number of years ago the Israeli signals-intelligence agency, known as Unit 8200, broke a sophisticated Iranian code and began monitoring communications that included talk between Iran and Pakistan about Iran's burgeoning nuclear-weapons program" Investigative reporter Seymour M. Hersh wrote in the article.

According to the report, Israeli intelligence has created strong ties in Iran over the year, some of which exist till today. Hersh writes that the investigation by the International Atomic Energy Agency (I.A.E.A.) into Iranian nuclear capability was spurred by Israeli intelligence findings which were relayed to the atomic agency via the National Council of Resistance of Iran.

According to the report, the findings, which showed that senior officials in Teheran and Islamabad had frequent conversations regarding the I.A.E.A. investigations, were also shared with United Sates intelligence services.

"The interpretation is the issue here," a former intelligence official is quoted as saying in the report. "If you set the buzzwords aside, the substance is that the Iranians were saying, 'We've got to play with the I.A.E.A. We don't want to blow our cover, but we have to show some movement. There's no way we're going against world public opinion—no way. We've got to show that we're cooperating and get the Europeans on our side.'"

Hersh reports that he met with a senior Israeli intelligence officer in Tel Aviv who has access to the secret Iran-Pakistan contacts and was told that Israel remains convinced that "the Iranians do not intend to give up the bomb.

"What Iran did was report to the I.A.E.A. the information that was already out in the open and which they cannot protect. There is much that is not exposed," he said.

[tubavil]

Good morning.

'Liberty' thread!

[jrlc]

JaneFondaKerry is being heavily funded by Iranians -- check out how Gore was funded by the Chinese in 2000. May not come out until after the election but when it comes to JustForKerry the old rule applies in every aspect of his life -- "FOLLOW THE MONEY."

[montag813]

U.S.S. Liberty

U.S.S. Vincennes

[montag813]

Israeli's strafe the crap out of a U.S. flagged vessel in international waters and knowing that fact makes me a 'Jew-hater'?

So where do you go from here? Should we abandon Israel as an ally? Cut off relations? Support Hamas? It is rather tiring to see people say "USS Liberty" or "Remember the Liberty" and nothing else. Yes it was tragic, but WHAT NOW?

[ryanjb2]

I agree with you Gunslingr3.

[aynrandfreak]

If you believe that the Islamists are reacting to our policies then you're as dangerous to this country as the dems. They attack us because they want to take over the world. Too often I hear people that want to co-opt the terrorist's agenda; "the terrorists attack because of... lack of socialism, support for Israel, etc" You are the western fuel that terrorists need to justify their actions. You're more responsible for 9/11 than Israel or our support of it. The terrrorists need people in the West with your attitude of justification and rationalization.

[SevenofNine]

COOOL rack itt
WOuld that be something Alouette there is report that freepers broke few weeks ago that Kerry campaign in Iran for some stupid reason

OH I want read communication between Iran and Kerry camp that be classic

[Professional Engineer]

ping

[HRoarke]

Subsequent posts notwithstanding, deciding from a two word post that someone is a "Jew Hater" is a little much. Posting a message calling someone that is worse. It would be much like my deciding that since you are an "aynrandfreak" that you are anti-religion. My guess is that that isn't true either.

Now that the grenades are being thrown back and forth, and everyone's back is up there's little chance that anyone will know what he meant by "USS Liberty." When I first read it, I figured from the context that he was saying that Israel's intel wasn't always top notch, as evidenced by that tragedy. Much like someone else pointed out with our similar failings in the Vincennes tragedy (better justified IMHO however).

I hate to see this place devolve into a DU name calling contest.

[Gunslingr3]

So where do you go from here? Should we abandon Israel as an ally? Cut off relations? Support Hamas? It is rather tiring to see people say "USS Liberty" or "Remember the Liberty" and nothing else. Yes it was tragic, but WHAT NOW?

Having friendly relations with the nation of Israel does not make it incumbent upon U.S. taxpayers to send her money. Israel has nukes, and more than enough military might to whip her neighbors if need arose. I'd suggest we step back and let them solve their own problems.

[Zack Nguyen]

A secret Israeli intelligence unit, known as Unit 8200, broke a sophisticated Iranian code...

I gather it's not exactly a secret anymore. How nice of the New York Post to reveal secret operations upon which the security of the civilized world depends.

[aynrandfreak]

Forget "subsequent posts notwithstanding". The posts exist & prove my point well. There are code words that point out haters; Halliburton, USS Liberty, we 'created' the Bin Laden, etc. I believe it's important to call the haters out. If I had been wrong in my judgment, I'd be happy to take it all back. But I wasn't.

[Zack Nguyen]

Ease up on the Jew-hater comments. No less an authority than Dick Helms, Director of CIA at the time of the attack, believes that the attack was not a mistake. I am a shameless Israel supporter, and I have no idea why (or if) Israel attacked the ship intentionally. Helms didn't know either. I don't know if anyone knows for sure, but it's a question worth asking.

[aynrandfreak]

You say that after the subsequent posts where the guy says that our support for Israel is the reason we were attacked on 9/11? No, thanks.

[Poohbah]

No less an authority than Dick Helms, Director of CIA at the time of the attack, believes that the attack was not a mistake.

Being Director of the CIA does not grant Mr. Helms any special knowledge of the intent of the Israeli government. Indeed, given the long history of CIA f***ups and ineptitude, it can be argued that bing the Director of the CIA is evidence that Mr. Helms does NOT know what he is talking about.

[Zack Nguyen]

I missed that post, but really it has little to do with whether expressing suspicion on the Israeli attack of the USS Liberty is in and of itself "Jew-hating." I don't believe that being suspicious of it makes one an anti-Semite. That was my only point.

And should anyone care, we need to support Israel regardless of how many terrorists hate us for it.

[Zack Nguyen]

Come on, I think Dick Helms is a worthwhile source. In any case, his opinion doesn't "prove" anything, accept that reasonable people disagree on that issue.

None of this changes the fact that our support for Israel should remain strong and constant.

[Poohbah]

Come on, I think Dick Helms is a worthwhile source.

Considering that he presided over the CIA failing to notice preparations for the Tet Offensive, consistently overestimating how much damage was being done to the VC & NVA, and consistently misreading the strategy and intentions of the North Vietnamese...I'm going to have to disagree with you.

Also, whenever someone shouts "USS LIBERTY!" on any thread that even mentions Israel, no matter how irrelevant said remark may be...there's reason to be suspicious of their motives.

[colorado tanker]

It would be a news story if the codebreakers from Israel - and the U.S. - hadn't broken Iranian codes.

If this was leaked it was for the purpose of letting the Iranians know that Israel knows precisely how far they've gone and a warning not to cross the line to produce a weapon.

[Indie]

Having friendly relations with the nation of Israel does not make it incumbent upon U.S. taxpayers to send her money. Israel has nukes, and more than enough military might to whip her neighbors if need arose. I'd suggest we step back and let them solve their own problems.

I would agree to that with any nation in theory. But in reality, we can not do that because the enemies who would destroy Israel are out to destroy us. That is called reality and it must be dealt with by us, or face the consequences.

You fight the enemy where they are, you don't wait until you have to fight them on your own soil.