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To: montag813
So where do you go from here? Should we abandon Israel as an ally? Cut off relations? Support Hamas? It is rather tiring to see people say "USS Liberty" or "Remember the Liberty" and nothing else. Yes it was tragic, but WHAT NOW?

Having friendly relations with the nation of Israel does not make it incumbent upon U.S. taxpayers to send her money. Israel has nukes, and more than enough military might to whip her neighbors if need arose. I'd suggest we step back and let them solve their own problems.

50 posted on 03/02/2004 9:25:34 AM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3
Having friendly relations with the nation of Israel does not make it incumbent upon U.S. taxpayers to send her money. Israel has nukes, and more than enough military might to whip her neighbors if need arose. I'd suggest we step back and let them solve their own problems.

I would agree to that with any nation in theory. But in reality, we can not do that because the enemies who would destroy Israel are out to destroy us. That is called reality and it must be dealt with by us, or face the consequences.

You fight the enemy where they are, you don't wait until you have to fight them on your own soil.

60 posted on 03/02/2004 11:40:55 AM PST by Indie (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.")
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To: Gunslingr3
The intel we received from Israel through the years on the Soviets, American weaponry vs. Soviet weaponry, and other various and sundry intels has more than paid 10 fold back in return what we have given Israel in aid over the years. Not to mention that the aid has also bought off Israel’s defense industry from competing with our own defense industry and something in which she is very capable of doing. Indeed, it is a requirement that Israel return much of that aid back to the US in the form of purchases from our defense industry at non-discounted prices, representing a boon to America workers and taxpayers. Moreover, because of the immense strategic importance of the Middle East to our national security, if Israel weren’t a strategic ally, the US would be forced at a minimum to maintain several military bases with the troop deployments and equipment to man them in various locations in and around the region costing the US taxpayers billions more than the aid the US sends to Israel on a year-to-year basis.

Oh, by the way, haven’t you heard, the USS Liberty incident was finally unequivocally cleared up last year. It was just one of those accidents of war that so often happens in the fog of battle. I know, how disappointing it must be for you! And if you believe that the Jews are the source of all evil, including 9/11, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d really like to sell you.
78 posted on 03/02/2004 8:21:03 PM PST by Turbodog
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