[dyed_in_the_wool]

Right. We'll make peace with them.
After we break their will to fight.

Ask the Japanese and the Germans how it works if you have questions.

[Jeff Gordon]

shouldn’t the West make peace with Islam first?

Who started the war?

The US will make peace with those who start wars with us as we have always done. We will defeat them on the field of battle then help them to get back on their feet.

[Hostage]

Well Dr. Al-Oraifi, you'd be well-advised to get with the American plan else you'll end as roadkill on the path to Islam's forced pacification,

You have not yet seen even a glint of the enormity of the anger that the world has for your psychotic militants.

[ChadGore]

We tryed peace, and they gave us 9/11.

The battle is now joined, and they're going to loose.

[Publius6961]

Let the West Make Peace With Islam First

Say what?
Why would a civilized country want to make peace with a herd of lunatics?

Assuming it were possible...

[reagan_fanatic]

What is the Arab world's response to its own lack of individual freedom, its support for terrorism and lack of accountability for its own actions?



"Don't Blame Me - I Didn't Do It!"

[william clark]

Dear Mr. Al-Oraifi

It's really quite simple. If you wish to live among civilized people and nations, behave in a civilized manner AND do not tolerate, support or rationalize those who refuse to do so. Then, we'll get along just dandy.

[NewRomeTacitus]

"People in the region acknowledge that other countries have surpassed them in development; they lag behind in economic productivity and have not been able to move ahead with political reform. However, they insist that the blame is not solely theirs but should also be placed on US policies in the Middle East over the past decades."

No, the blame is squarely on a culture that disalows half of it's population proper education or the opportunity to contribute meaningful work. There is nothing in Islam commanding that women be 2nd class citizens, that is strictly from backward tribalism.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Yeah, right.

Let's look at what this (liar) left out.

"Throughout the second half of the 20th century, numerous wars were fought in the Middle East, ignited directly or indirectly either by West European states or the United States.(WRONG! These were radical Islamic armies warring against Jewish settlers) The 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973 wars were related to the Arab-Israeli conflict which cost human lives, drained resources, and left the region with economic difficulties, crushing deficits and arrested development. (Because radical Islam lost each time to democratic forces )The countries involved directly in these wars were Egypt, Syria, and Jordan.(radical Islam) But the Gulf countries took part indirectly by funding military programs or imposing the oil embargo. (radical Islam)Then, there was the 1975-1989 Lebanese civil war(radical Islam-radical "Christian"), the US-sponsored Mujahedeen fighting against the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan(radical Islam-radical Communism - Gee, you'd have thought he would have noticed that the Communists weren't "friendly" Western democracies; and you notice he forgot that WE (the west) were defending his brother Islam nations), the 1978 Iranian uprising against the Shah’s regime(radical Islam-radical Islam), the 1980-1988 Iraqi-Iranian war(radical Islam-radical Islam), the first Gulf War(radical/dictatorial Islam, trying to conquer radical Islam) and, last but not least, the second Gulf War (radical/dictatorial Islam supporting terror weapons against democracies)and the US occupation of Iraq. This was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

Apart from these major wars, there are numerous other conflicts such as the Algeria-Morocco dispute over the Sahara desert(radical Islam-radical Islam), the Pakistani-Indian conflict over Kashmir(radical Islam-radical Hindu), the Algerian civil war(radical Islam-radical Islam), the north-south war in Sudan(radical Islam Communists-radical Islam semi-western supporters), the Yemen war(radical Islam-radical Islam), border disputes between several Gulf states(radical Islam-radical Islam), the Eritrea-Ethiopian war (radical Islam-radical Islam) , the Somalia war. (radical Islam poor thieves stealing from starving radical Islam poorer people)

Now, what's the common thread here?

What's the ONLY democracy in the entire region?

Who is he ONLY nation trying to defend this nations against the Communists and their "fellow radical Islamic dictators? And just WHY is all this precious oil money getting spent on rhino horns and harems and Mercedes rather than civil improvements?

[Slings and Arrows]

Some typoes in that title:

Let the West Make Peace With Pieces Of Islam First

Better.

[SunkenCiv]

This originally appeared in a year 2000 issue of Civilization and I'm reprising it from another FR topic where I quoted it.:

Islam Faces a New Era
by Munawar A. Anees

"Yet it is pointless for Muslims to write endless critiques of Orientalism without producing an equivalent set of ideas. While the West is armed to the teeth with tools for comprehending the Muslim ethos, where is the Muslim scholarship that can lay claim to a comprehensive perception of Western ideological shifts? Where is the Muslim critique of modernity, postmodernism, structuralism, globalization?

"...Islam is not intrinsically opposed to ideals of justice, equality, and human dignity. It is folly to assume that technological sophistication or economic prosperity need weaken, or run counter to, religious belief.

"Meanwhile, at some distance from the ivory tower lies the grim reality of much of the Muslim world: poverty; mass illiteracy; want of basic hygiene and primary health facilities; lack of fundamental liberties of religion and speech; little protection from state persecution. The revolution in Iran raised the hopes of the dispossessed and disadvantaged masses for an Islamic revival; two decades later, we see the movement deteriorating in strength and falling victim to sectarian strife."

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[SevenDaysInMay]

The psychotic Mo'ham' liked sex with children and murdering Jews and other infedels. What a fool's paradise.

[BayouCoyote]

Dr. Mariam Al-OrIFICE fails to understand that it is his bassackwards wahabbi countrymen that should be begging the US not to annihilate them. THEY should be kissing our feet and thanking us for being so merciful on their barbaric tribesmen.

Oh Lord...if only I had my way.

[American in Israel]

They accuse us of not understanding them, I suggest we understand them far more than they realize. I also suggest we use the Arab meaning of the word peace when we make peace with them.

Heck we do not call the old Colts "Peace Makers" for nothing.

I suggest it is they that have failed to understand us. It may be a fatal error on their part.