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Cleland: Kerry Won't Release Vietnam Medical File
NewsMax ^ | 2/29/04 | Limbacher

Posted on 02/29/2004 7:38:32 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Former Sen. Max Cleland said Sunday there was no reason for Democratic presidential front-runner John Kerry to release his full medical file - including records documenting the injuries that won him three Purple Hearts in Vietnam - calling requests for the Vietnam records "the height of hypocrisy."

"That might be the height of hypocrisy, for people who never went to Vietnam [to ask for Kerry's wartime medical file]," Cleland, a leading Kerry backer, told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg.

"I mean - I felt a wound. John Kerry felt a wound," he added.

Sen. Cleland, who lost three limbs in Vietnam but never received a Purple Heart, said Kerry's physical sacrifice had been just as great as his own, telling Malzberg, "I don't see any difference."

When pressed on why he thought Kerry didn't need to release his full medical file, Cleland shot back, "You read the book 'Tour of Duty.' I'm not going to get into an argument with you here. Let's just say, we have a clear choice in America."

However, when asked two weeks ago about the severity of Kerry's wounds, "Tour of Duty's" author Douglas Brinkley explained, "They were minor."

The issue of whether Sen. Kerry should release his medical files could become a prickly one for the candidate, especially since he has been less than forthright about personal medical issues in the past.

In Feb. 2003, Kerry underwent an operation for prostate cancer. But he had declined to reveal the condition for months, even when reporters asked about his health. When he finally went public with the news, Kerry claimed that the cover-up had been necessary because his doctors "had not settled on a course of treatment."

When he ran for president in 2000, George Bush released his full medical file, a disclosure so complete that it came to include Bush's 1970s dental files this year.

The exchange between Cleland and Malzberg went like this:

MALZBERG: There's been criticism, fair or unfair, that within the first 24-hours [John Kerry] had his first purple heart. He got three in four months without even a day of duty lost from wounds, according to his training officer. But he will not release his Purple Heart medical treatment reports to be released. And he is the only person keeping them from being released. Would you call on him to release all of his records, sir?

CLELAND: Well, look here. I mean - ah, ah - I think - ah - that might be the height of hypocrisy, for people who never went to Vietnam - as Shakespeare said, "Those who jest at scars never felt a wound." I mean - I felt a wound. John Kerry felt a wound.

MALZBERG: But you never received a Purple Heart, sir.

CLELAND: May I just say, when he was the skipper of his boat with five enlisted men in that situation - going into the jaws of death every day - he had to rely on his instincts for survival. And he and his crew were one. They were a band of brothers. Now, under that situation they saved each others lives. He also saved the life of a Special Forces officer out of the Mekong Delta River, Jim Rassmussen [sic]. And he is campaigning around America for Kerry even though he's a Republican.

The point being, we've been there, done that, gotten a few holes in our T-shirt and we've come back to America to say, war is the last resort, not the first resort.

MALZBERG: I understand, sir. But you were a hero. You lost three limbs, sir, and you don't have a Purple Heart. He barely missed day and he has three of them. And I'm just saying, why not end the controversy . . . Why not see what the injuries were, sir?

CLELAND: May I just say to you and all your listeners, if you want know the full story of John Kerry and the Vietnam War, just go out and buy a book that's on the New York Times bestseller's list, called "Tour of Duty." . . . If we get bogged down in guerilla wars in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in the Balkans and all around, we're going to see repeats of Vietnam. . .

Now that people are going after John Kerry for supposedly being weak on defense, especially by those who never went to war. I mean, you talk about a short term, George Bush had eight months dropped from his tour. He never even completed his tour of duty.

MALZBERG: Well sir, Kerry got out early, also - Kerry got out six months early as well.

CLELAND: Yeah, because he got wounded.

MALZBERG: But we don't know the extent of those wounds, sir.

CLELAND: I got out five weeks early because I got blown up.

MALZBERG: Yes, but don't you see the difference? You lost three limbs.

CLELAND: I don't see any difference.

MALZBERG: We don't know what happened to Kerry because he won't let us know.

CLELAND: That's not true. You read the book "Tour of Duty." I'm not going to get into an argument with you here. Let's just say, we have a clear choice in America. And the great citizens of New York have a great choice on Tuesday. . . . We don't have to repeat another Vietnam. [END OF EXCERPT]



TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; interview; kerry; kerryrecord; malzberg; maxcleland; medicialrecords; purplehearts; talkradio; transcript; vietnam; wabc
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To: MarkeyD
"(Deserter -> 3 Band-Aids and I'm Out Kerry) "

to qualify for a purple heart:
"A wound which necessitates treatment by a medical officer and which is received in action with an enemy..."

kerry is a disgrace...

81 posted on 02/29/2004 10:05:25 PM PST by hoot2
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I will not use foul language... I will not curse... I will not cuss...

Too late, God knows my every thought and I am so busted.

82 posted on 02/29/2004 10:05:41 PM PST by Krodg ("My faith frees me"...G.W. Bush........'A Charge To Keep')
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To: kellynla
Hell, I'll grant him the Bronze Star for pulling the SF guy out of the river.......but the Silver Star for shooting a downed VC is a little much...

Two medals --- and only one probable kill...
After all - the way I hear the story - the VC hit by the crew's .50s was BEHIND or in the hootch.... The poor VC was probably already assuming room temperature by the time Kerry got to him -- and galantly fired his weapon to impress his crew on the beached boat... I NEVER heard or witnessed any of the PBR crews beaching their boats during a firefight --- that is the height of madness -- extreme stupidity!

I would love to read the commendation, and learn who DRAFTED it and who submitted it --- and what relationship they had to the brave Lt. Kerry....

Semper Fi
83 posted on 02/29/2004 10:09:07 PM PST by river rat (Militant Islam is a cult, flirting with extinction)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Wow.

I've suspected that Kerry is really ill. My wife said "he looks like he's dying". She's worried for him.

Very unhealthy, gray skin and drawn face.

What is going on?
84 posted on 02/29/2004 10:12:26 PM PST by moodyskeptic (weekend warrior in the culture war)
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To: FairOpinion
I don't know whether he had prostate cancer or not and what the status is.

The people have a right to know what his "PSA" value is. If it is near zero the prostate cancer is unlikely to be a problem. If it is elevated, however, there could be problems.

It is amazing that Kerry's "battle with prostate cancer" hasn't received any media coverage. Do you think if Bush had had prostate cancer, every person in America would know about it?

85 posted on 02/29/2004 10:14:51 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Rhys Ifans
"Who was that rat who died not long after running for president not so long ago? Wasn't he a liberal from the N.E. who eventually lost to Clinton? "

paul tax-on-gas. he was cleaning klinton's clock;
till he ran out of $$$. mr n mrs bill klinton never ran out of $$$$. thanks to the chi-coms...
they did give most of it back; after they were elected...
n after THEY were caught.(some people believe this...)/sarcasm>

86 posted on 02/29/2004 10:14:56 PM PST by hoot2
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To: bin2baghdad
Problem is that Kerry trumpets his Nam service like he was John Wayne incarnate or something when any fool can see he ain't no "ROOSTER".

He claims all sorts of deering-do and those 3 purple Washingtons and yet he didn't spend even a day in the tent from his wounds.

Something stinks.
87 posted on 02/29/2004 10:15:39 PM PST by wardaddy (A man better believe in something or he'll fall for anything.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
3 political band-aid Purple Hearts and very early out?

What were his heroics for the Bronze and Silver?
88 posted on 02/29/2004 10:17:11 PM PST by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: river rat
Hearty Hearty AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(from yer keyboard to God's ears, let the truth be heard)
89 posted on 02/29/2004 10:22:26 PM PST by wardaddy (A man better believe in something or he'll fall for anything.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Cleland didn't recieved a Purple Heart because the idiot picked up a live hand grenade he found on the ground and guess what? The moron blew himself up!
90 posted on 02/29/2004 10:33:45 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: gov_bean_ counter
With Hitlary as his VP, he wouldn't live out his first month, regardless of his health.
91 posted on 02/29/2004 10:41:40 PM PST by BykrBayb (Temporary tagline. Applied to State of New Jersey for permanent tagline (12/24/03).)
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To: Interesting Times
What if a decorated, wounded Vietnam Vet (wounded by the Viet Cong, not someone who blew himself up like Cleland) were to request Kerry's wartime medical file. Would that be sufficient? I didn't think so . . . .
92 posted on 02/29/2004 11:31:03 PM PST by rebel_yell2
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To: SevenDaysInMay
Maybe he was fragged by his own troops, three times???

Just a thought!

93 posted on 02/29/2004 11:34:20 PM PST by rebel_yell2
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To: bin2baghdad
but kerry is making his vietnam service a political issue--he is running for president on it. i am not judging kerry's service record, but if he is running on it, he should answer the questions and produce it.
something about the way cleland is answering the questions suggests that something is being hidden here.
94 posted on 02/29/2004 11:40:48 PM PST by drhogan
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To: FairOpinion
Hmmmm. Maybe the interns are safe...
95 posted on 02/29/2004 11:48:15 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (As the oldest generation dies, the memory of liberty fades into obscurity, replaced by an impostor)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
What is the scumbag hiding?
96 posted on 02/29/2004 11:49:48 PM PST by ambrose ("John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands" - Lt. Col. Oliver North)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
[Kerry] will try to get elected with Hillary of the ticket knowing full well he will not live out his first term.

I'm starting to wonder if this is the reason the Dems are stepping up their efforts to try to get Bush to dump Cheney from the ticket. Did you hear McAuliffe on Fox News Sunday say Cheney should be dumped? - albeit the issue came up relative to Cheney's 2000 campaign stance on gay marriage.

Anyway, I'm wondering if they are desperate to get Cheney out because Hillary doesn't want to face him in a debate. Just a thought.

And yes, BUSH RELEASED HIS RECORDS - KERRY SHOULD DO THE SAME!

97 posted on 02/29/2004 11:51:33 PM PST by Spotsy (Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: drhogan
also, if i understand it correctly, kerry got a medal for finishing off a wounded enemy soldier. i was never in viet nam, so maybe someone who was there could explain if this is a legitimate-sounding thing. i don't understand this at all.
98 posted on 02/29/2004 11:52:08 PM PST by drhogan
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To: moodyskeptic
well, you can BE SURE KERRY DOESN'T HAVE AIDS!! I mean, he wouldn't hide THAT from the american people.
99 posted on 02/29/2004 11:55:46 PM PST by drhogan
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To: rebel_yell2
Maybe he was fragged by his own troops, three times???
Don't think they would have missed three times.
Jack
100 posted on 03/01/2004 3:34:20 AM PST by btcusn (Giving up the right to arms is a mistake a free people get to make only once.)
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