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The high cost of self-defense
The Washington Times ^
| February 28, 2004
Posted on 02/28/2004 12:08:17 PM PST by RogueIsland
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:13:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Few cases better illustrate how our legal system sometimes stands justice on its head like the case of Tony and Matt Geckle
(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; guns; lawsuit; selfdefense
I'd like to say "unbelievable", but we've all heard variants of this too many times before.
To: RogueIsland
Countersue the estate for the value of the stolen items and the emotional distress inflicted on the owners when Steinbach forced the owners to shoot and kill him.
To: *bang_list
bang
To: RogueIsland
You can thank the lawyers and judges for this. Remember, churning traffic through the system for fun and profit is their motivation; justice has NOTHING to do with it.
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posted on
02/28/2004 12:20:11 PM PST
by
agitator
(...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
To: John Jorsett
Countersue the estate for the value of the stolen items and the emotional distress inflicted on the owners when Steinbach forced the owners to shoot and kill him.This should be standard for all crime.
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posted on
02/28/2004 12:37:00 PM PST
by
Fenris6
To: Fenris6
The plaintiffs have no assets, most likely
If plaintiffs and plaintiff's LAYWERS were made jointly liable for filing frivilous suits, it would end REAL quick
To: SauronOfMordor
You have the answer , make attorney's responsible for frivolous suits, Get in the attorney's pockets.
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posted on
02/28/2004 12:49:42 PM PST
by
sgtbono2002
(I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
To: John Jorsett
Countersue the estate for the value of the stolen items and the emotional distress inflicted on the owners when Steinbach forced the owners to shoot and kill him. Exactly.
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posted on
02/28/2004 12:51:46 PM PST
by
spodefly
(I am compelled to place text in this area.)
To: SauronOfMordor
You are absolutely right on that. Under the English Rule, psrties AND their attorneys can be required to pay the costs to the other side, when they file frivolous claims or frivolous defenses.
I am still a member of the Maryland Bar, though I haven't practiced there for fifteen years. The Md. Rules of Civil Procedure DO allow the judge in a case to impose costs on the attorneys in a case like this. But it is discretionary, and I can remember only one time in 30 years that a Md. judge used that power.
Odds are, the case will be thrown out before trial. But odds are, the judge will not "get into the pockets" of the muldoon lawyers who filed this case.
Congressman Billybob
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posted on
02/28/2004 1:13:11 PM PST
by
Congressman Billybob
(www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
To: Congressman Billybob
About a dozen years ago my vehicle was the target of car prowlers. The third time they attacked it they were caught.
The Prosecuting Attorney declined to pursue it because they were juvenals.
the juvenile court system declined to pursue it because the perps were from "disadvantaged" homes.
The PA told me that I had the option to take their parents to civil court, but discouraged me from doing so on the grounds that "enforcing a judgment against "poor minorities" would present a hardship to the families".
I ignored his advice and took them to court. I won judgments against all three families - a total of $1275.00.
I never received a dime......
To this day I still consider my actions to be right and proper, and the failure of "the system" to be the greatest insult.
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posted on
02/28/2004 2:06:45 PM PST
by
rockrr
("Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me")
To: rockrr
It's a pity you couldn't take it out of their welfare.
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posted on
02/28/2004 2:35:25 PM PST
by
coloradan
(Hence, etc.)
To: coloradan
I wouldn't have accepted welfare (tainted) money, but I would have signed off on a plan that would have reduced their welfare take for an equal amount!
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posted on
02/28/2004 2:47:45 PM PST
by
rockrr
("Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me")
To: rockrr
Did the parents of the kids own homes or live in apartments?
If they had a house you could take a lean out on the property preventing its sale until they paid your settlement.
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posted on
02/28/2004 3:27:47 PM PST
by
Chewbacca
("Turn off your machines! Walk off your jobs! Power to the People!" - The Ice Pirates)
To: RogueIsland
I'm thinking more along the line of a tree chipper like the scene in Fargo.........Three S rule looks better and better every day IMO.....
Stay safe !
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posted on
02/28/2004 9:26:39 PM PST
by
Squantos
(Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
To: RogueIsland
...the intruders ran toward him in the darkness. He fired, hitting all three burglars; one, Jonathan Steinbach, 24, died of his wounds.,
Wow! He is either a fantastic shot to shoot all three perps in darkness, or a very, very good shot by hitting all three with one bullet.
Maybe they were running toward him single file :-)
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posted on
02/28/2004 9:48:14 PM PST
by
VeniVidiVici
(Democrats want to ban sex with animals! They may get hurt!)
To: VeniVidiVici
He shot Jonathan Steinbach in the back. What a hero!
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posted on
11/16/2004 6:55:10 PM PST
by
PLT1072
(The right to bring guns to bear on someone's back.)
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