The high cost of self-defense

The Washington Times ^ | February 28, 2004

[RogueIsland]

Few cases better illustrate how our legal system sometimes stands justice on its head like the case of Tony and Matt Geckle

[RogueIsland]

I'd like to say "unbelievable", but we've all heard variants of this too many times before.

[John Jorsett]

Countersue the estate for the value of the stolen items and the emotional distress inflicted on the owners when Steinbach forced the owners to shoot and kill him.

[RogueIsland]

bang

[agitator]

You can thank the lawyers and judges for this. Remember, churning traffic through the system for fun and profit is their motivation; justice has NOTHING to do with it.

[Fenris6]

Countersue the estate for the value of the stolen items and the emotional distress inflicted on the owners when Steinbach forced the owners to shoot and kill him.

This should be standard for all crime.

[SauronOfMordor]

The plaintiffs have no assets, most likely

If plaintiffs and plaintiff's LAYWERS were made jointly liable for filing frivilous suits, it would end REAL quick

[sgtbono2002]

You have the answer , make attorney's responsible for frivolous suits, Get in the attorney's pockets.

[spodefly]

Countersue the estate for the value of the stolen items and the emotional distress inflicted on the owners when Steinbach forced the owners to shoot and kill him.

Exactly.

[Congressman Billybob]

You are absolutely right on that. Under the English Rule, psrties AND their attorneys can be required to pay the costs to the other side, when they file frivolous claims or frivolous defenses.

I am still a member of the Maryland Bar, though I haven't practiced there for fifteen years. The Md. Rules of Civil Procedure DO allow the judge in a case to impose costs on the attorneys in a case like this. But it is discretionary, and I can remember only one time in 30 years that a Md. judge used that power.

Odds are, the case will be thrown out before trial. But odds are, the judge will not "get into the pockets" of the muldoon lawyers who filed this case.

Congressman Billybob

Click here, then click the blue CFR button, to join the anti-CFR effort (or visit the "Hugh & Series, Critical & Pulled by JimRob" thread). Don't delay. Do it now.

[rockrr]

About a dozen years ago my vehicle was the target of car prowlers. The third time they attacked it they were caught.
The Prosecuting Attorney declined to pursue it because they were juvenals.
the juvenile court system declined to pursue it because the perps were from "disadvantaged" homes.
The PA told me that I had the option to take their parents to civil court, but discouraged me from doing so on the grounds that "enforcing a judgment against "poor minorities" would present a hardship to the families".
I ignored his advice and took them to court. I won judgments against all three families - a total of $1275.00.
I never received a dime......
To this day I still consider my actions to be right and proper, and the failure of "the system" to be the greatest insult.

[coloradan]

It's a pity you couldn't take it out of their welfare.

[rockrr]

I wouldn't have accepted welfare (tainted) money, but I would have signed off on a plan that would have reduced their welfare take for an equal amount!

[Chewbacca]

Did the parents of the kids own homes or live in apartments?

If they had a house you could take a lean out on the property preventing its sale until they paid your settlement.

[Squantos]

I'm thinking more along the line of a tree chipper like the scene in Fargo.........Three S rule looks better and better every day IMO.....

Stay safe !

[VeniVidiVici]

...the intruders ran toward him in the darkness. He fired, hitting all three burglars; one, Jonathan Steinbach, 24, died of his wounds.,

Wow! He is either a fantastic shot to shoot all three perps in darkness, or a very, very good shot by hitting all three with one bullet.

Maybe they were running toward him single file :-)

[PLT1072]

He shot Jonathan Steinbach in the back. What a hero!