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Electoral College Breakdown, Installment One
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Posted on 02/19/2004 8:45:25 AM PST by Dales

Edited on 02/19/2004 10:36:05 AM PST by Lead Moderator. [history]

Due to popular demand, I am going to revive my poll tracking and analysis that I did during the 2000 election season. I will be starting things a bit differently this year. Instead of starting off with a comprehensive overview of the entire nation, I am going to start by looking at five states at a time. For the first installment, the random state generator presented me with North Dakota, Maine, Alabama, New Mexico, and Vermont.

North Dakota
Electoral Votes: 3
2000 Result
Bush 61%
Gore 33%

Background: North Dakota is always a problematic state for my poll tracking, in that it is so rarely, if ever, polled. There are good reasons for this. It is a very small state, with only three electoral votes. It also is rarely competitive. The last time the Democrats won in North Dakota was when Lyndon Johnson trounced Barry Goldwater in 1964. Since then, Republican candidates have carried North Dakota by margins from a low of 7 points (Bob Dole against Bill Clinton) to a high of 38 points (Reagan against Carter). Obviously, George W. Bush had little problem with Al Gore last election cycle.

Polling Data: None available.

Punditry: There is zero chance that North Dakota will be a factor in this election. If the election is close nationwide, North Dakota will not be, and if North Dakota is then the nationwide election won't be. Safe Bush


Maine
Electoral Votes: 4
2000 Result
Gore 49%
Bush 44%

Background: Despite having only a single more electoral vote than tiny North Dakota, Maine gets a bit more attention due to its proximity to the media hotbeds in New England. However, it is rarely listed as a swing state for the coming election, which is a mistake. Bush lost to Gore by only 5 points last time, and over the past 10 elections it has split evenly between the parties. The best way to describe Maine is streaky, as those elections have been Democrats for two straight, Republicans for five straight, and now Democrats for the last three. Perhaps it is because Nader picked up 5% that people assume that Maine will be less competitive this time.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat
3/03 Critical Insights Link 600 RV 4.0 Bush 47% Unnamed Democrat 36%
9/12-26/03 Critical Insights Link 600 RV 4.0 Bush 36% Unnamed Democrat 45%

Punditry: Maine has been tracking the nationwide polls regarding Bush for quite some time now, generally with him lagging by a point or two here. If the election is close nationwide, expect this state to stay close, particularly if Kerry is the nominee. Despite being a New England state, Maine tends to vote for Democrats who are centrist and reject those who are perceived to be liberal. Slight Advantage Democrat.


Alabama
Electoral Votes: 9
2000 Result
Bush 56%
Gore 42%

Background: Alabama has been a reliable GOP state, only straying twice since 1960; both times it went for a southerner. Jimmy Carter carried the state, as did George Wallace.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat
4/27/03 USA Polling Group Link RV 5% Bush 60% Unnamed Democrat 30

Punditry: This is another state, like North Dakota, which falls into the category of "if this one is close, the election is not". Bush will carry Alabama comfortably. Safe Bush.


New Mexico
Electoral Votes: 5
2000 Result
Gore 48%
Bush 48%

Background: No state, not even Florida, was closer in the last election than New Mexico. Prior to Clinton breaking through, the Republicans had carried the state for 6 consecutive elections, often by significant margins. Both times that Clinton carried New Mexico, the Perot vote played a significant factor. The strong showing Perot made here suggests that this is a state concerned with Mexico, both from an immigration perspective and from a jobs perspective.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat
9/12/03 Research and Polling Inc. of Albuquerque Link 400 RV Bush 40% Unnamed Democrat 43%

Punditry: Simply on the basis of the close election results in 2000, New Mexico is going to be a state to keep an eye on, and the poll from last September indicates that it will still be a battle. I sense, however, that this state will be less friendly to the President this time around due to NAFTA, his immigration proposal, and the popularity of Democrat governor Bill Richardson. Slight Advantage Democrat.


Vermont
Electoral Votes: 3
2000 Result
Gore 51%
Bush 41%

Background: Vermont went for Lyndon Johnson, then not for another Democrat until Bill Clinton. It has gone Democrat the last three elections (by 16, 22, and 10 points). Third party candidates are a factor in Vermont, even if they do not generally swing the state.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat
10/02 Research 2000 Link 400 LV 5% Bush 38% Dean 50%
10/28/03 Research 2000 Link 600 LV 4% Bush 46% Dean 34%

Punditry: Vermont has changed dramatically since the days when Ronald Reagan had been carrying the state. The Republican voters there are loyal, but they are simply outnumbered. Safe Democrat.


Summary Table
  Bush Democrat
  Safe Strong Lean Slight Tossup Slight Lean Strong Safe
  ND (3) - - - - NM (5) - - VT (3)
  AL (9) - - - - ME (4) - - -
Designation
Total:
12 - - - - 9 - - 3
Candidate
Total:
12 - 12
Undesignated electoral votes: 514

Next installment: Colorado, Georgia, North Carolina, Montana, Massachusetts

Historical election data and graphics are located at Dave Leip's invaluable website.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Alabama; US: Maine; US: New Mexico; US: North Dakota; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: dales; ecb; electionpresident; electoralcollege; gwb2004; polls
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To: Neets
That would be great!
21 posted on 02/19/2004 9:08:47 AM PST by Dales
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To: Dales
Well, you don't get much better than that.
22 posted on 02/19/2004 9:09:20 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrack of news.)
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To: Neets
Put me on the ping list, please!
23 posted on 02/19/2004 9:12:12 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Neets
Put me on the ping list.

[Gee, I don't think I have ever typed those words before.]

Thanks.
24 posted on 02/19/2004 9:13:57 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: LS
It seemed to work ok. There were a few states that the pollsters were off by quite a bit in aggregate, but they seemed to cancel each other out.
25 posted on 02/19/2004 9:16:02 AM PST by Dales
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To: 11th Earl of Mar; TomB; Miss Marple
You got it!
26 posted on 02/19/2004 9:19:26 AM PST by Neets (Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
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To: Neets
Please place me on Dales ping list. This is Superbowl time and Dales is the John Madden of commentators on this board =)
27 posted on 02/19/2004 9:21:33 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Dales
I was waiting for the return of this.

No real disagreements. North Dakota, Vermont, and Bama are obvious.
As for Maine, I predict the dem to win the state, but I do think one electoral vote(they split their votes) there is in play, while the other is more dem. I wouldn't be suprised to see a split there, but as of now, I expect the dems to win all of Maine.

New Mexico is one of the toughest states for me to predict. In 2000, Bush cleaned up in a lot of the small to mid size counties there(mostly counties under 30,000 voters). He needs a good turnout in San Juan county especially(35,000 voters and 62% win).

The dems have a few big 'small counties' of their own that I think are on the reservations. Santa Fe County is a big dem stronghold with 49,000 voters.

Two other key counties here are Sandoval(31,000 voters - Bush won with 49%) and Dona Ana(47,000 - Gore won with 51%)

And the big prize is Bernalillo (Albequerque). 200,000+ voters and Gore won it with 49% and by about 4212 votes. That could swing the state right there.

If I remember right, there was a big snowstorm in NM on Election Day last time. That may have affected everything.

28 posted on 02/19/2004 9:23:28 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("You know it don't come easy, the road of the gypsy" - Iron Eagle)
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29 posted on 02/19/2004 9:26:38 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("You know it don't come easy, the road of the gypsy" - Iron Eagle)
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To: Neets
Could you please add me to the ping list. Thanks.
30 posted on 02/19/2004 9:28:48 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("You know it don't come easy, the road of the gypsy" - Iron Eagle)
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To: Dales
Where did Go Bush/Cheney go I wonder.
31 posted on 02/19/2004 9:29:57 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative ("You can dip a pecan in gold, but it's still a pecan"-- Deep Thoughts by JC Watts)
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To: Neets
Ditto! Add me to the Ping list also!
32 posted on 02/19/2004 9:30:04 AM PST by Hurricane Andrew
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To: Neets
Please add me to the ping list as well. Thanks!
33 posted on 02/19/2004 9:31:51 AM PST by NYS_Eric
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To: Hurricane Andrew
Ping list candidate, I am.

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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius; Dan from Michigan; Hurricane Andrew; NYS_Eric
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35 posted on 02/19/2004 9:34:02 AM PST by Neets (Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
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Got ping?
36 posted on 02/19/2004 9:34:38 AM PST by Neets (Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
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To: Neets
OK, Neets, add me please.
37 posted on 02/19/2004 9:37:15 AM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: Neets
me too!
38 posted on 02/19/2004 9:37:20 AM PST by KJacob
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To: Neets
If you do, add me, please.
39 posted on 02/19/2004 9:38:37 AM PST by reformedliberal
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40 posted on 02/19/2004 9:39:20 AM PST by P.O.E. (Think of all the accidents you never hear about because they don't happen.)
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