Mike Schrake (pictured, left) told Local 4 he was only trying to protect his 15-year-old daughter when he contacted police after discovering the man his daughter was having sex with lied about his age. Posted on 02/19/2004 8:40:09 AM PST by chance33_98
Local Dad Shocked By Sex Charges Against Him
Man Must Register As Sex Offender
POSTED: 6:45 pm EST February 18, 2004 UPDATED: 8:38 pm EST February 18, 2004
A man who police say provided condoms for his daughter to have sex appeared in court for a preliminary hearing Wednesday, Local 4 reported.
Mike Schrake (pictured, left) told Local 4 he was only trying to protect his 15-year-old daughter when he contacted police after discovering the man his daughter was having sex with lied about his age.
"The father believed that the suspect was only 18 years old having sex with his 15-year-old daughter. He then found out that the suspect was actually 20 years old," said Lt. Dan Kolke of the Fraser Police Department.
The teen's father went to Fraser police to file a complaint against Ronald Gossage (pictured, below), but police were apparently just as concerned with the fact that he was letting his teenage daughter have sex at all. 
"You feel like you're doing the right thing. They seem more interested in jailing me than the other guy," said Schrake.
Police say Schrake allowed Gossage to sleep in the same bed as his daughter and also provided them with condoms.
But Schrake denied those allegations. He said he let Gossage stay at his house in the fall of 2003, but never consented to him having sex with his daughter.
"I gave my daughter condoms back in the summer before she even knew this guy, when I found out she was no longer a virgin since age of 14," said Schrake.
Schrake pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor, but was reportedly still having difficulty dealing with the situation because he is not permitted to see his three children.
Police say as a part of the plea agreement, Schrake must register as a sex offender. He must also continue to go through the court system so he can move back in with his family, the station reported.
Gossage, who faces three counts of criminal sexual conduct in the third degree, is expected to appear in circuit court in March.
Local 4 learned that in the state of Michigan, sex is a crime if both consenting parties aren't at least 17 years old.
Oh, so *that's* what my views are, hang-ups. Thanks for enlightening me. Your analysis is too sharp for words.
If you want to argue that, say, fornication and desecration are in fact objective goods, or at least not evils, then do so. If you want to dive into ethical subjectivism and stop the discussion with a sophomoric "well, that's just what you believe" then you prove yourself unwilling to enter into argument.
Here, I'll make an argument for you to enter and to refute, if you can:
Fornication is an objective moral evil, for the following reasons:
First, it infringes upon the rights of marriage. Only spouses have the right to sex. They have this right because they have already vowed themselves to each other in a gift of self. The act of physical love is the consumation and highest expression of this full gift of self. Spouses' very body language in the conjugal act speaks marriage.
Second, fornication, no matter how well contracepted, leads to illegitimate children. These children are either killed off in the womb--another evil--or raised in domestic situations where the father is not committed to the mother--vastly inferior to married households.
Third, fornication, even contracepted fornication, is a habit of passion unguided by reason. Fornicators ignore and avoid the rational good of marriage. Though their bodies speak the language of total self-gift, they do not give themselves totally to each other by an act of willed committment. Thus they are inconsistent and irrational.
Knock my arguments down, and I'll admit my opinions are nothing more than irrational belief.
did you give her a disease?...maybe you got her pregnant....how wonderfully Christian of you.....
a father should never make excuses for his 15 year olds to be engaging in sex, I don't care if he thought the guy was 17...it makes no differance...
I am beyond the idea of "saving it" because that might be too much to ask in our sexually charged rotten culture, but at least can we lenghten our kids childhoods so they might still enjoy their tender years before getting into all the complications of sexuality?
no one seems to care about young people anymore...we think that encouraging them to act like grown adults that we are just being good to them...
well, were not....
So why advocate this opinion if it isn't truly, objectively, good to do so?
Would he have been prosecuted if he had given his son a diaphram? :~)
We don't think that, we pretend that. It's easier in the short run to be permissive. Harder in the long run.
I remember back in my high school days my friend's parents putting their 13-year-old daughter on the pill. She's a mess today. Very sad.
"Subjective or objective"? Does objective truth exist or not?
Would the son have to go out and find the woman it fit a la Cindarella's slipper?
Where do you see the word "orgy" in my post?
did you give her a disease?...
As I said in my post, I had been a virgin up to that point, so I'm about 99.99% sure I didn't give her an STD.
maybe you got her pregnant...
That did not happen although it certainly could have, which brings me back to my main point: If we had access to condoms back then, we would have used them rather than taking a chance with unprotected sex, which as you point out, can lead to STD's and unwanted pregnancy.
how wonderfully Christian of you...
Thanks for bringing that up. My other point was that despite the fact that I had spend my entire childhood and adolescence going to Sunday School, church services, Bible Camp, Youth Group, Christian Retreats, and a host of other Christian activities, I still had sex at age 15/16 with girl who had been raised on a similar Christian diet. I don't advocate sex at that age, but I'm not about to close my eyes and cover my ears and pretend it doesn't happen, which is why I'm not neccesarily going to fault a parent (as opposed to a teacher), who makes condoms available to his or her teenager knowing that he or she is going to do it regardless of what the parent might say.
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