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The American Child After Same-Sex Marriage
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 2/18/04 | Linda Harvey

Posted on 02/19/2004 3:04:25 AM PST by kattracks

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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
None other than Clinton-appointed Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginzberg once said that the age of consent for sexual acts should be twelve years of age. Ruth Bader Ginzberg was also General Counsel for the ACLU. She is a notorious leftist, and all those Clinton apologists who tried to sell BJ Clinton as a "moderate" Democrat only need look as far as his judicial appointees to see just what kind of a Democrat -- and person -- he really was: his judicial appointees have virtually all been leftists.
21 posted on 02/19/2004 5:46:52 AM PST by ought-six
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To: Always Right
Well, since you are "always right" guess you know! Got any gay relatives??
22 posted on 02/19/2004 5:47:57 AM PST by DooDahhhh
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To: little jeremiah
*ping*

You may feel compelled to wash your hands after reading this...

23 posted on 02/19/2004 5:51:00 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: kattracks
Why do we want to promote any kind of extra-marital sexual activity among minors, much less that which to all believers of all major creeds is sinful and harmful? Why do those who promote perversion in the name of "equal rights" not get challenged on their real agenda of taking away the right of all who believe to believe that such behavior is a sin?
24 posted on 02/19/2004 5:57:32 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: DooDahhhh
Homosexuality is not something you embrace. It is something that you are either born with or you are not. Learned this the hard way : ).

Tell that to Ellen DeGenres after Anne Heche left her to MARRY a MAN !!!
25 posted on 02/19/2004 6:08:11 AM PST by lonerepubinma
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To: lonerepubinma
Guess I should have said most of em!
26 posted on 02/19/2004 6:11:57 AM PST by DooDahhhh
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To: DooDahhhh
Well, since you are "always right" guess you know! Got any gay relatives??

Yeah, I have a brother-in-law who is 'bi'. The gay community can't stand it and try to convince he is gay and there is no such thing as 'bi'. He has stuggled because he finds women attractive but still likes to be with guys. Sexual identity and fetishes are greatly influenced by environment and sexual orgasism provide perhaps the strongest postive reinforcement mechanism that works to also shape human behavior. The scientific evidence points to lots of influences, but the 'experts' ignore all the facts. There is nothing that supports the current belief that sexuality identity is soley caused by genetics. The best evidence they show are twin studies, but even the most biased twin studies only show a 50% correlation. That leaves a lot of room for other influences.

27 posted on 02/19/2004 6:20:39 AM PST by Always Right
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To: puroresu
There was actually an EU official a few months ago who said that the UN would ultimately have to force gay marriage on the entire world.

That would plant the seeds for the next World War. Countries like Poland will never accept that.

28 posted on 02/19/2004 6:24:51 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: DooDahhhh
Homosexuality is not something you embrace. It is something that you are either born with or you are not. Learned this the hard way

You are repeating the dogma of the leftist gay-agendists.

They insist that homosexuality is something one is "born with," in order to equate homosexuality with race -- thus, forcing an extension of all anti-discrimation laws to apply to homosexuals.

I for one don't believe this dogma is true. There may be predisposing genetic factors in many cases, but genetics cannot be the only cause: There are many effeminate men and 'masculine' women who are heterosexuals.

I believe homosexuality is caused by a combination of factors, mostly psychological, none of which by themselves would necessarily result in that particular, er, bent.

29 posted on 02/19/2004 6:31:32 AM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: DooDahhhh
The studies show pretty strongly that the three leading causes of homosexual behavior (Same-sex Attraction Disorder) are (1)being abused (either sexually or physically, with molestation being far and away the best indicator), (2)having an absent or insufficent relationship with one's father, and (3)relentless teasing by one's peers during the formative years. Of course not every person subjected to these horrors will contract SAD, but almost every SAD has one or more of these characteristics.

No verified study shows a genetic link.

Well, since you are "always right" guess you know! Got any gay relatives??

I have a brother who is trapped in perversion. I do not know if he was molested but I know for a certainty that he was physically abused, had no relationship with our dad and was torturously teased by his classmates.

Likewise every SAD that I know of has these same characteristics. And so do most ex-SADs which shows that environement is overcomeable.

30 posted on 02/19/2004 6:35:24 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O
I'm no scientist, but I must agree with your point about the relationship of a person with their father. All I can say is that, of the homosexuals I've actually gotten to know, I have yet to EVER meet a single one who expressed satisfaction over his/her relationship with his/her father.

I've also noticed that a large number of them seem to have had an overbearing mother.
31 posted on 02/19/2004 6:44:22 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
I have yet to EVER meet a single one who expressed satisfaction over his/her relationship with his/her father.

I have found this to be true, as well as no father in the equation at all.

32 posted on 02/19/2004 6:52:39 AM PST by Jackie-O
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To: kattracks
The funny thing is that persons with SSAD are still very dependent on heterosexuals. They can't do without heterosexuals. Everything regarding sex is still defined according to masculine and feminine. While this may annoy the heck out of discontented SSAD's, as long as it takes one sperm and one egg to produce a baby, I don't see there being a departure from the masculine/feminine paradigm.

The persons who have this sad disorder still cannot produce offspring unless they (at least temporarily) deny their alleged "homosexual identity" and engage in some behavior which will cause a sperm and egg to unite. I believe that the desire to produce offspring is pretty strong, generally speaking. After all, that's what populates the world. That's what heterosexuality does for the world. What, I wonder, does homosexuality do for the world?
33 posted on 02/19/2004 6:58:58 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: kattracks
I heard a news report this morning that a class of 4th graders in a San Francisco school just sent the mayor thank you notes for instituting gay marriage.
34 posted on 02/19/2004 7:03:36 AM PST by Carry_Okie (A faith in Justice, none in "fairness")
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To: DooDahhhh
Homosexuality is not something you embrace. It is something that you are either born with or you are not. Learned this the hard way : ).

I don't believe this for one second.

Your argument about homosexuality is no different than the stale old arguments of yore that asserted women were intellectually inferior to men, and couldn't follow a logical discipline like mathematics.

A person is the result of their conditioning, belief systems and environment.

35 posted on 02/19/2004 7:05:48 AM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: Jackie-O
Right! And wouldn't you know, we live in a society which has persistently de-valued the role of the father.

The so-called Great Society and its ill-advised welfare programs worked to throw the father out of the home, and replace him with The Government.

And we needn't even go into the so-called women's lib movement: a movement led by mentally ill persons who, b/c THEY felt uncomfortable around men, sought to exclude men from women's lives. I dunno, though, I look around, and it doesn't seem to me that they were too successful in getting women to live without men. Most women I know wouldn't THINK of trying to do without men in their world!
36 posted on 02/19/2004 7:05:59 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: little jeremiah; scripter; ArGee; lentulusgracchus; Bryan; MeekOneGOP
Ping


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37 posted on 02/19/2004 7:12:17 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: Devil_Anse
as long as it takes one sperm and one egg to produce a baby, I don't see there being a departure from the masculine/feminine paradigm

BINGO! In the end the father cannot be taken out of the equation completely.

There is an Attorney in Chicago who advertises on the radio who represents Father's rights. He states that most children who grow up without a father will either enter a life of crime or be a victim of crime/abuse. Speaking from experience, I have found this to be sad but true. I grew up without my Father because of an untimely death, and my children have lost their Father at a young age as well.

38 posted on 02/19/2004 7:18:49 AM PST by Jackie-O
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To: Starcutter

Our children are very impressionable and many will take to this kind of behavior just because it is seen as "in style". Others will embrace it because they have no parents teaching them different.


Psychiatrist "Reassures" Parents About Lesbian Experimentation

"...The article describes a parent-faculty meeting at The Spence School, a private enclave overlooking Central Park, where several eighth-grade girls had declared themselves "bisexual." The school called in a Harvard-educated psychiatrist, Dr. Justin Richardson--himself a gay man--to reassure the parents that lesbian experimentation is common, and that it was too soon to know if they would be lesbians or heterosexuals.

At the all-girl Brearly School two weeks earlier, Dr. Richardson told a parent group to advise their daughters as young as nine years old that they, too, may have sex with other girls in the future. "It is a good idea," he said, "to mention that people have sex with members of the same sex sometimes, and that when they grow up they may have friends that do that--and that it may be something that they themselves do."

"A small but growing number of students," the Times article reported, "have come out at these schools, or at least say that bisexuality is stylish." Parents are concerned, and Dr. Richardson--"pedigreed, carefully-spoken, determinedly nonthreatening--has become the schools' gay issues consultant of choice" because he is "sane and clear," according to the Spence headmaster..."


39 posted on 02/19/2004 7:19:43 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: Always Right
Absolutely. I dont' know what the "hard way" means, but at one time I was a raving lib with many gay male friends. Many, many of those had something in their past that I think contributed to their homosexual lifestyles and a number also were enticed by those perverts who took advantage of their confusion. So many of them were high school friends and were attracted to girls. Some seemed confused and hurt because most girls were not attracted to them. It seemed to open up the door for a predator who gave them attention they never had. I'm going in all different directions, but EVERY eventually homosexual friend I have had has had something that could have been treated with therapy, spirituality, or a combination of both, but unfortunately all were trapped instead by predators in the homo community looking to cash in on young men who were in the midst of this confusion.
40 posted on 02/19/2004 7:20:29 AM PST by cupcakes
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