LET'S TALK ABOUT "YOUR" JOBS

Nealz Nuze ^ | Wednesday, February 18, 2004 | Neal Boortz

[Taliesan]

just talked to a friend who told me AOL's customer service is in Bombay India.This does not bode well for our future.

where do the profits from this decision go?

[Jhoffa_]

Yes.

And I see no reason at all to support that.

[eleni121]

Mayor, what a shame - a man with your talents. The unions have a death grip on the western NY area in fact all of NYS. Until that changes, independents like yourself stand little chance of expanded construction opportunities.
Just curious...I notice that places like Home Depot use or contract out their own construction people to do jobs. Have you investigated that?

[Poohbah]

If someone is willing to do the SAME JOB for less money, that's the true value of that job - and those demanding more compensation better up their skills to be able to demand higher pay.

No, they should use the coercive power of government to demand higher pay, and then use the coercive power of government to demand that prices be lowered, and then use the coercive power of government to prevent employers from laying off employees until the employers are bankrupt.

BTW, the above paragraph is SARCASM.

[Paul Ross]

Probably not to the person that you've described. But, to a protectionist-conservative who posts in the FR, that has yet to see the consequences of his/her backwardness thinking - I hope so!

Actually, it is the Free Traitors that don't know we are not actually in a 'free trade' situation...but a highly artificial, highly influenced 'market'. A market aggressively subsidized by the Chinese and Indian governments...and our own...to the end of rewarding U.S. companies that are relocating U.S. production. This is not free trade. Nor is it 'backward thinking' to forsee a time when the U.S. is reduced by such predatory nations...who are fully defended by a phalanx of protectionist trade policies....to a state of complete dependency.

[Rate_Determining_Step]

> Outsourcing is only a "problem" if the Indians can do the same job for less money.

Ya, I love these people who lament the fact Paper Tiger IT jobs have been shown as the dufus job they were over the last few years.

I work as a software company and IT guys are my customers. Some are smart, but some are just plain dumb as rocks. They have no analytical skills, no motivation and no communication skills. If it isn't in their MSCE cheat book, then they can't go there.

I wonder how many dot-com nonjobs there were during the Clinton admin? The only thing that really sucks is that "Wired" is still in business.

"PLEASE, Mr President. Bring back those wonderful dot-com jobs where we did nothing and ordered stuff from Kozmo all day!"

These pukes make me sick.

[raybbr]

Bush didn't force you spend your tax cut on anything.

You are right. However, they did play on the fears of Americans that if they didn't spend it the economy would not improve and it would be our fault.

[Jim Cane]

This is not free trade. Nor is it 'backward thinking' to forsee a time when the U.S. is reduced by such predatory nations...who are fully defended by a phalanx of protectionist trade policies....to a state of complete dependency.

Mercantilism is not free trade. Bump

[bray]

I lost my job on Oct 1 2003 and was the best day of the year. At 6:30 AM I told my boss to TTJASI and by 8:30 was working at my own new company. Course I am one of the 2 million jobs lost and not one of the new companies formed according to Comrade Kerry. Life is good under W.

Pray for W and The Truth

[eleni121]

The problem with super-capitalists is that they refuse to see the symbiotic relationship between the employer and employee. They think the employer is more important by an order of magnitude than the employee.

Your "symbiotic relationship" thesis sounds strikingly familiar: Marx said the same thing.

What undermines your position is that anyone can be a capitalist in a free market system...a fact that Marx was either too ignorant or too angry and envious to understand.

[Rate_Determining_Step]

> That's right. Any one of us could accept a $0.00 per hour wage and after government interference in the free market it would still be cheaper to employ a foreigner!

Interesting point. Fed regs that making employing Americans expensive is not the fault of the free market.

[muleskinner]

I understand your case is not unique. Of the 2 or 3 million who have lost their jobs over the last several years, just over 500K of those folks have started their own business. Big news, but the administration is not saying anything about it.

[Paul Ross]

Did you see where Walmart is suddenly spending big bucks (over $1 million) to PACs and lobbyists to defend its Chinese import racket?

[raybbr]

Your "symbiotic relationship" thesis sounds strikingly familiar: Marx said the same thing.

Hah! Call out Marx's name and that completely cancels out reality.

What undermines your position is that anyone can be a capitalist in a free market system...

So... only employers can be capitalists? Geez, you super-capitalists really have a terrible opinion of your fellow Americans. Everybody is dumb and inept unless they want to own a business.

[hedgetrimmer]

"free trade" = global government, loss of sovereignty and economic harmonization with other countries, especially if they are needy of US taxpayer dollars.

While everyone is arguing about outsourcing, meetings are quietly held to push along the FTAA, which is due to be impelented in January 2005.

The FTAA, Free Trade Area of the Americas impact on American citizens will dwarf the impact of outsourcing on the American citizen.

The Treaty of Maastricht created the EU in 1992 as an economic zone or free trade area.

Then in 1999 the African Union was created.

We also got ASEAN, the Association of South East Asian Nations about that time.

The fall of the Soviet Union generated a reformation of itself in the CIS or Council of Independent States, another 'free trade region'.

The only region left that isn't quite under the belt of the free traders is the middle east. However there is an organization formed that will become the regional government for the middle east called the OIC, the Organization of the Islamic council.

What do all these groups have in common?

They are predicted in the UN document called "Our Global Neighborhood". Each and every one, including the "free trade area" the United States will be forced to belong to" has the language in its charter--that the organizations are organized "within the framework of the United Nations" and that they only follow international law (bye bye Constitution, it was nice knowing you.)

Each and every one of these organizations has exactly the same structure, a president, a parliment, a permanent council, an observers council, and a secretariat (there is an amazing uniformity of government here for such a diverse group, is there not?)

Each and every one of these organizations is founded on the principles of "peace, justice and solidarity"... which sounds awfully marxist to me

End of part I

[A. Pole]

Yes, it needs to be strong, etc. but don't all countries need to do so?

No, they don't. If you have a warm climate, plentiful resources and isolation you can take it easy.

[Cronos]

Ah yes, found the track. Russia could save a huge amount by getting rid of most of it's nukes. It doesn't need so many and monitoring them would be a problem. It's main threat is China, so as long as they outnumber the chicom nukes 2 to 1 they should be fine. The number they own now are to match the US and waaay in excess of the 2-1 vs the Chinese.

[KC_for_Freedom]

meanwhile the gap between the our Corporate masters and the rest of us, continues to grow.

I don't understand why a "gap" is a concern to you. Are you saying that great wealth should not be acquired? Do you believe above a limit the wealthy should be taxed 100%?

What bothers me about "gap" analysis is that presumably the participants are all satisfied with the contract, else they would be looking for a better job for themselves. Who do you expect to make everything more equal?

[Cronos]

The market is heavily subsidised by Japan and the EU with their subsidies to farm and other industries. They are the real big players.

[Cronos]

And you are earning more than just being a slave to some big a** corporation?