We had virtually to straight-jacket [Kerry] to keep him under control (Admiral Zumwalt on Kerry)

taipeitimes ^ | Feb 11, 2004 | W. Scott Thompson

[TheSpottedOwl]

Damn, trying to remember who else to ping...

For example, the fabled and distinguished chief of naval operations (CNO), Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, told me -- 30 years ago when he was still CNO -- that during his own command of US naval forces in Vietnam, just prior to his anointment as CNO, young Kerry had created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets.

Totally Clintonian!!!!

[Old Grumpy]

" . . . created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets."

"We had virtually to straight-jacket him to keep him under control," the admiral said.

Didn't Lt. Calley get crucified for killing civilians?

[AmericanVictory]

Explains why he felt he had to lie and accuse others of doing what he had done.

[LADY J]

"young Kerry had created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets."

War Criminal. He should have to answer to this.

[NonValueAdded]

For example, the fabled and distinguished chief of naval operations (CNO), Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, told me -- 30 years ago when he was still CNO -- that during his own command of US naval forces in Vietnam, just prior to his anointment as CNO, young Kerry had created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets.

"We had virtually to straight-jacket him to keep him under control," the admiral said. "Bud" Zumwalt got it right when he assessed Kerry as having large ambitions -- but promised that his career in Vietnam would haunt him if he were ever on the national stage.

Is there any corroboration for this?

[southernnorthcarolina]

"We had virtually to straight-jacket him to keep him under control," the admiral said.

I suppose the English-as-a-second-language folks at the Taipei Times should be given some slack -- after all, I'm not exactly conversant in any of the various Chinese languages -- but it's straitjacket.

[prairiebreeze]

For example, the fabled and distinguished chief of naval operations (CNO), Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, told me -- 30 years ago when he was still CNO -- that during his own command of US naval forces in Vietnam, just prior to his anointment as CNO, young Kerry had created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets.

"We had virtually to straight-jacket him to keep him under control," the admiral said. "Bud" Zumwalt got it right when he assessed Kerry as having large ambitions -- but promised that his career in Vietnam would haunt him if he were ever on the national stage

...But if they become a front-runner for president, the whole ball-game changes. Their past is scrutinized with a fine-tooth comb.

Not if the bulk of American media has any say in it......

Prairie

[OldFriend]

Chilling.

[Ciexyz]

Sounds like Kerry loved the smell of napalm in the morning.

[rllngrk33]

... Kerry had created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets.

Seems like Ketchup Boy was telling the truth when he admitted to committing war crimes.

Perhaps he was a bit trigger happy?

[LADY J]

"Sounds like Kerry loved the smell of napalm in the morning."

It's chilling to read about his atrocities. He sounds like a blood thirsty coward. Now he keeps bragging about being a war hero and shoving his medals in our face.

Worse yet - he came back and blamed the other soldiers for the crimes that he did.

[TC Rider]

Explains why he felt he had to lie and accuse others of doing what he had done.

Teresa has stated that John has nightmares, flashbacks, etc. Not what you would expect from his public record of pulling people out of rivers, charging wounded soldiers, etc.

Would make a lot of sense if he was attacking civilians.

[hoosiermama]

Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, ...

"We had virtually to straight-jacket him to keep him under control," the admiral said. "Bud" Zumwalt got it right when he assessed Kerry as having large ambitions -- but promised that his career in Vietnam would haunt him if he were ever on the national stage.

So is Admiral Elmo ZUMWALT still alive?....Where can he be contacted?....and how do we get him on National media programs?

RECORDS! I want to see ALL of Kerry's military records. (particularly those signed by Zumwalt)

[EastIdaho]

I just thought of something, maybe Kerry was sent home early because they wanted to get rid of him. Give him his 3 purple hearts and send him home. In other words he was fired. Maybe thats why he took up his anti war stance, to get back at them.

[GailA]

FReeper The Spotted Owl and I created this citizen's campaign ad

George Bush honorably served his country during the Vietnam War, but didn't get any medals.

George Bush "We will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of the United States."

John Kerry served during the Vietnam War, won many medals, then threw some one else's medals back in his country's face.

John Kerry accused his fellow soldiers of rape, baby killing and torture, and his country of war crimes.

John Kerry “I’m an internationalist,” Kerry told (The Crimson in 1970.)"> “I’d like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations.”

America needs a leader with morals, honor, and vision. Not a leader who will ask for a UN permission slip to protect America.

Bush/Cheney in 2004.

[Grampa Dave]

What if the real War Criminal, Kerry referred to after he returned was himself:

"The fabled and distinguished chief of naval operations (CNO), Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, told me -- 30 years ago when he was still CNO -- that during his own command of US naval forces in Vietnam, just prior to his anointment as CNO, young Kerry had created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets.

"We had virtually to straight-jacket him to keep him under control," the admiral said. "Bud" Zumwalt got it right when he assessed Kerry as having large ambitions -- but promised that his career in Vietnam would haunt him if he were ever on the national stage."

Is this why he flipped out and became an anti war geek, after seeing his own War Criminal actions?

[Rockpile]

" For example, the fabled and distinguished chief of naval operations (CNO), Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, told me -- 30 years ago when he was still CNO -- that during his own command of US naval forces in Vietnam, just prior to his anointment as CNO, young Kerry had created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets. "

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HEY! They can't say this about The War Kriminal! Don't they know that he's a Highly Decorated Veteran? Who the hell is this Zumwalt anyway? Where are his papers? Did he complete his enlistment? What did he know and when did he know it?

[rllngrk33]

Now he keeps bragging about being a war hero and shoving his medals in our face.

I keep hearing rumors about how Ketchup Boy wrote up his own recomendation for the silver star because his CO or other officer was not there to witness his "heroics'. I also keep hearing how his three purple hearts were for "minor wounds".

Any freepers out there who can verify this?

[mylife]

W. Scott Thompson is an adjunct professor at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University in Boston, and a former assistant secretary of state in the Reagan administration. He has visited Taipei eight times and now lives in Bali.

Anybody know more about this guy Thompson?

These are very serious accusations