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Stupid Law Alert! -- All Cars May Get DWI Locks
Albuquerque Jounal, Capital Bureau ^ | 2/17/2004 | Kate Nash

Posted on 02/17/2004 4:46:06 PM PST by DesertDreamer

SANTA FE— Every car sold or registered in New Mexico would have to have an alcohol-detecting device installed before 2009 under legislation approved by the House on Monday.

New Mexico, always grappling for answers to chronic drunken-driving arrests and deaths, would be the first in the nation to require the devices, said Rep. Ken Martinez, D-Grants, the sponsor.

The device is known as an ignition interlock, and drivers have to blow into them and pass the alcohol detection test before their cars can start.

The measure, approved 45-22, headed to the Senate for debate. Gov. Bill Richardson said he would carefully consider the bill if it gets to his desk.

The bill (HB 126) would require the ignition interlocks to be installed by the owner before any car could be registered or sold. For new cars, the law would take effect in 2008; for used cars it would be 2009.

"Citizens of the state of New Mexico, you're going to pay a little more, but you are going to be part of the solution," Martinez said.

The cost was the main point opponents raised during a three-hour debate. The devices cost up to $1,000 now, but could go down significantly as technology improves, Martinez said.

"You're already paying for DWI. Everybody in New Mexico already pays. DWI is very expensive," Martinez said.

(Excerpt) Read more at abqjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: dwi; newmexico; stupidlaws
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To: KingNo155; CovenBuster
LOL!!!
21 posted on 02/17/2004 5:17:06 PM PST by DesertDreamer (I am DesertDreamer and I approved this message.)
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To: _Jim
- could outline how that would be done technically, you know, what kind of infrastructure layout would be required, et cetera?

Well, tinfoil hat aside, I suppose an OnStar-type device could be rigged to an ignition interlock. Off the shelf technology that peon-citizen-taxpayers could be forced to fund.

22 posted on 02/17/2004 5:17:33 PM PST by Petronski (John Kerry looks like . . . like . . . weakness.)
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To: per loin
he's long since dead

... hence another Jospeph P. Kennedy?

Are we not all familiar with:

How the Kennedy Empire was Built
(...and Other Scandals)

- On January 29, 1919, the Eighteenth Amendment was ratified. It prohibited the manufacture, sale, transportation, or importation of "intoxicating liquors" for "beverage purposes." For Joe, the law represented an opportunity to make huge profits.

- He [Joe] formed alliances with crime bosses in major markets, among them Boston, New York, Chicago, and New Orleans. These would come in handy years later when his son was running for national office. Among his mob associates was Frank Costello, former boss of the Luciano crime family, who bragged, "I helped Joe Kennedy get rich." Sam Giancana, who would later figure prominently in Jack's presidency, called Joe "one of the biggest crooks who ever lived."

- Joe bought liquor from overseas distillers and supplied it to organized crime syndicates that picked up the liquor on the shore. Frank Costello would later confirm that Joe had approached him for help in smuggling liquor. Joe would have the liquor dumped at a so-called Rum Row - a transshipment point where police were paid to look the other way - and Costello and other mobsters would then take over. They distributed the liquor, fixed the prices, established quotas, and paid off law enforcement and politicians. They enforced their own law with machine guns, usually calling on experts who did bloody hits on contract.


23 posted on 02/17/2004 5:19:03 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: Petronski
I suppose an ...

That was an extra-point question meant for the other guy ...

24 posted on 02/17/2004 5:21:26 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: _Jim
Doesn't your Cadillac have On-Star?
25 posted on 02/17/2004 5:22:40 PM PST by per loin
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To: tacticalogic
"Pretty soon you'll see the parking lots in bars filled with locked cars sitting with their engines running."

Sorta reminds me of a joke: A cop pulls into the parking lot of a bar just in time to see a huge group of partyers disappear inside. The cop decides to wait and see who comes out the drunkest and bust HIM for DWI. After quite awhile (this cop having nothing better to do) the first couple of guys stumble outside but seem pretty much ok. The cop decides he wants somebody for FELONY DWI. another couple of mildly drunk folks stumble to their cars and drive away. FINALLY, this one guy crawls outside on his hands and knees, retching all the way. Fails to get his keys in the door twice and then three times to put the keys in the ignition. The instant the car roars to life, the cop POUNCES!

Running across the lot, he drags the helpless man from behind the wheel as the rest of the drunks scramble from the bar and drive away. The cop ignores all the rest. He has a FELONY DWI under arrest! Then he gives the roadside test, which the guy passes. Then a breathalyzer which blows no alchohol content! The cop is bewildered then furious.

SCREAMING: "YOU'RE DEAD DRUNK! I SAW YOU!!"

To which the kid smirks and replies:
"Nope, not tonight. I'm just the designated DECOY!"

Designated drivers will still be the rule. His duties will simply extend to blowing a clean breath into everybody's personal breathalyzer so they can start their car and be about their business. I could forsee a small fee being charged for this service.

26 posted on 02/17/2004 5:23:58 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: _Jim
... hence another Jospeph P. Kennedy?

and worse...another crop of such pulpous spawn

27 posted on 02/17/2004 5:25:52 PM PST by per loin
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To: per loin
Your post said "can control the usage of every vehicle".

I simply don't see 'enabling or disabling' a vehicle as being the same as "controlling the usage of" a vehicle. I think (or thought at the time) that you had something more extensive in mind ...

28 posted on 02/17/2004 5:26:57 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: _Jim
Yeah, I know, but my meds are wearing off, so I came up with a good answer. ;O)
29 posted on 02/17/2004 5:28:25 PM PST by Petronski (John Kerry looks like . . . like . . . weakness.)
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To: tacticalogic
"Pretty soon you'll see the parking lots in bars filled with locked cars sitting with their engines running."

Sorta reminds me of a joke: A cop pulls into the parking lot of a bar just in time to see a huge group of partyers disappear inside. The cop decides to wait and see who comes out the drunkest and bust HIM for DWI. after quite awhile (this cop having nothing better to do) the first couple of guys stumble outside but seem pretty much ok. The cop decides he wants somebody for FELONY DWI. another couple of mildly drunk folks stumble to their cars and drive away. FINALLY, this one guy crawls outside on his hands and knees, retching all the way. Fails to get his keys in the door twice and then three times to put the keys in the ignition. The instant the car roars to life, the cop POUNCES! At running across the lot, he drags the helpless man from behind the whell as the rest of them scramble from the bar and drive away. The cop ignores all the rest. He has a FELONY DWI under arrest! Then he gives the roadside test, which the guy passes. Then a breathalyzer which blows no alchohol content! The cop is bewildered then furious. SCREAMING: "YOU'RE DEAD DRUNK! I SAW YOU!!" to which the kid smirks and replies: "Nope, not tonight. I'm just the designated DECOY!"

30 posted on 02/17/2004 5:30:50 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: _Jim
Then you think (or thought at the time) wrongly.
31 posted on 02/17/2004 5:31:31 PM PST by per loin
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To: ExSoldier
Good story. Might want to check the sear pin on that mouse button.
32 posted on 02/17/2004 5:32:12 PM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: tacticalogic
OOPS! Sorry for the double post. It's the new shweepy time medication. Realluy hits FASHT. Nitey nite, all.
33 posted on 02/17/2004 5:33:22 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: DesertDreamer
Insanity! If this is imposed, massive civil disobedience is the answer.

Can you imagine these devices remaining reliable for years in all weathers, they would break down just when the vehicle was most needed, in remote areas and the like.

How many would die or be murdered because the car would not start quickly, or at all, and they could not get away?
34 posted on 02/17/2004 5:34:23 PM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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To: per loin
Then you think (or thought at the time) wrongly.

ONLY going by the words you penned on the page, I assure you. I cannot read your thoughts ...

"Words *do* mean things."

35 posted on 02/17/2004 5:37:00 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: Chris Talk
How many would die or be murdered because the car would not start quickly, or at all, and they could not get away?

If you live in NM Senate Majority Manny Aragon's district that would be a very real concern.

36 posted on 02/17/2004 5:38:40 PM PST by DesertDreamer (I am DesertDreamer and I approved this message.)
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To: Uncle Meat
I solved it before I finished the article. Take a good sized balloon and before going out, fill it with air and clip ( don't tie) the end. When its time to go home, place balloon on the mouthpiece, release clip and clean fresh air passes the censor. .............next question...............
37 posted on 02/17/2004 5:39:17 PM PST by singletrack (........................................)
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To: DesertDreamer
Imagine all the money to be made in out of state black market auto ignition interlock defeat shops. I'd be their first customer. I'd have the deluxe feature installed, the one that has a hidden remote switch to re-activate the interlock for when the car is due the yearly state safety inspection.
38 posted on 02/17/2004 6:34:43 PM PST by Bob Mc
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To: Seeking the truth
Already done. Its called a ballon. Blow it up before you go in use it to puff into the tube when you come out.

Of course the thought of watching drunks trying to work out the mechanics of doing that could be rather entertaining to watch......
39 posted on 02/17/2004 6:44:30 PM PST by festus
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To: Spiff
I don't drink and I'm not going to blow into anything to drive my own vehicle.

Next they'll have us peeing in a cup.

40 posted on 02/17/2004 6:52:52 PM PST by Jorge
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