'White' scholarship ignorant of affirmatice action, racist, intolerant, totally unacceptable(PUKE)

Statist News ^ | 2-17-04

[Ohioan]

He basically disapproved of this method of fighting affirmitive action as it would rise tensions between peoples.

Sean is a nice guy. He is well meaning. He loves his country. But he is naive on these kinds of questions--as note some of his statements on immigration.

The only reason that a private race oriented scholarship would raise tensions, while taxing some of the people to give other people just such a scholarship is not supposed to, is only because of the widespread acceptance of certain Leftist premises. If the Left had not stripped certain minorities of their self-respect, this would not raise tensions at all. Booker T. Washington would have had no problem with it; but then, again, he was all about self-reliance, self-improvement, and self-respect--just like those White men, we call the "Founding Fathers."

We need to challenge the Left, not retreat because of the poisonous climate they have deliberately created, as a form of self-fulfilling prophesy--or better put, self-perpetuating evil.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

[Ohioan]

Those ideas went over better than saying you damn minority scholarship bastards ARgggggh.

I do not think the kids at Roger Williams are saying that. They are attacking ideas, not individuals who may have accepted a benefit that was out there. If they are attacking individuals for accepting a benefit that is out there, I would agree that that is not an effective tactic, and not entirely fair. But I do not believe that that is the case.

William Flax

[FITZ]

The president of this group, who is of Puerto Rican descent, is a recipient of a minority scholarship. He actively benefits from affirmative action, yet mocks it via unfunny jabs that make a dorm-room in Rhode Island laugh while a nation rolls its eyes at unfunny conservatives gone wild.

I can see there being a problem when one minority group that benefits from minority scholarships and affirmative action makes fun of the other minority group that also does. I've seen that first hand here --- a younger hispanic guy badgering an older black woman who made it before affirmative action was around --- on her own abilities --- but he was telling her she'd still be in the ghetto if it weren't for affirmative action --- and this woman had never lived in the ghetto ever.

[William Terrell]

Sent a link to this thread to the editor.

[FITZ]

To me it does look tribalistic for one group to think their "minority" scholarship is superior to other groups' "minority" scholarships and to accuse each other of benefitting from affirmative action when it's clear they all are getting in on it. If the Puerto Rican guy is sincere, why doesn't he just work against these policies and refuse any money based on race?

[Missouri]

Sean is a nice guy. He is well meaning. He loves his country. But he is naive on these kinds of questions--as note some of his statements on immigration.

I totally agree. He'll tow the party line and only give token resistance to the immigration law breaking that is going on.

I'm on record being against affirmitive action but I never went to college so I'm not familiar with what goes on there. In the large machine shop I work in, we've had problems with race. Several occasions we've gone to the "re-education camp" when Boeing ran the place. Stickers of the Confederate Battle Flags on some guys tool box had to come off. I guess things are the same all over.

I have no problem with what those kids are doing up in Rhode Island. Sometimes the left needs a kick in the groin to remind them that conservatives won't always lay down for them.

[Lancey Howard]

Ha! Penn State's (my alma mater) 'Daily Collegian' is just as bad.
I think probably most college toilet papers are.

[cyborg]

Well meaning highschool guidance counselors in public schools will tell students (esp. the poor ones) do take advantage of ethnic scholarships. A student can't be just WHITE. Otherwise according to the racial biologists East Indians,Aborigines and Middle Easterners would be eligible also.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

But when it's not funny, an entire contradiction in terms and, above all else, blindingly racist, the humor stops and the hate begins. Dave Chappelle makes this stuff funny - but runts like these only give themselves and their organization a bad name.

"In summary, only non-white only scholarships are OK." /sarcasm

[kelcey]

I don't know if either is really a right or morale thing to do (offering a scholorship to someone because of their ethnicity), however if one side can do then both side should be able to. This isn't just an issue with scholarships. Do you guys have the television station BET, could you imagine the controversy and up roar it would cause if someone started a WET station. My goodness, it would be a field day for the leftists. Though BET is just fine. I think these boys are on the right track. If the other side doesn't like it, then they should be less hypocritical. That's what is wrong with us, we need to stand up for ourselves better. You can bet your bottom that if this was visa versa, they would do something much more out there than what these boys did.

[FITZ]

I can see taking an ethnic scholarship --- but then you really have no right criticizing others who do the same. I might not stop people from handing me free money either --- but then I can't see having too much to say about others who also took it.

[cyborg]

If anything, it will get people talking. Most young black people I talk to said they wished AA would go away because it gives white people an excuse to be prejudice.

[cupcakes]

The president of this group, who is of Puerto Rican descent, is a recipient of a minority scholarship. He actively benefits from affirmative action, yet mocks it via unfunny jabs that make a dorm-room in Rhode Island laugh while a nation rolls its eyes at unfunny conservatives gone wild
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So what and some people have had many pre-marital partners, but are still faithful to their spouses and discourage their own children against it. People can learn from their mistakes!

[DeFault User]

I have friends who get scholarships b/c they went to Catholic schools, friends who get scholarships b/c they are also apart of an Italian-American or Irish-American ethnicity.

Provided those scholarships are given by private organizations, there's nothing wrong with them. I've heard of scholarships for left handers, people named Kelly, and all sorts of 'discriminatory' designations. The problem is when the government does it based on race, which, whether SCOTUS can recognize it or not, is a violation of the 14th Amendment.

[Afro_conservative]

How about kids of Alumni, that discriminates also. I believe in just pure academic excellence paired with a good interview as the means to choose students.

[cyborg]

Slots for legacies (esp. alumni that donate A LOT of money) will never go away. People do not donate a building or whatever out of the kindness of their hearts anymore (if they ever did).

[Afro_conservative]

Slots for legacies (esp. alumni that donate A LOT of money) will never go away. People do not donate a building or whatever out of the kindness of their hearts anymore (if they ever did). -cyborg

The same goes for minorities. The people who are in administration will want minorities in order to give the appearance of a diverse student body(ethnically). Even if AA is banned. This will never change because academia is ruled by liberals.

Admission criteria is very subjective. If you get rid of the scoring system like at University of Michigan then the biases given to minorities, alumni, athletes, etc. become less transparent. That is where subjectivity/biases come on and that is wrong because admissions officers know that they have to do what their administration wants.

Also note that you don't have to donate money to get alumni points at schools such as U of Michigan, you just have to have alumni in your family.

[DeFault User]

Kids of alumni, at private colleges, should not be a concern, but if that exists at public universities, a case could be made. However, the government provides money to most colleges, whatever their status, and then exercises a certain amount of control. That's another can of worms.

[cyborg]

Need to get rid of libs. They suck.

[GATOR NAVY]

'White' scholarship ignorant of affirmatice action, racist, intolerant...

As long as they're just throwing out leftist knee-jerk reaction phrases, they should have added it's hurtful, divisive and probably homophobic too.