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Kerry Hopes War Record Attracts Vets
Fox News ^ | February 17, 2004 | Fox News

Posted on 02/17/2004 2:02:38 PM PST by ZULU

Kerry Hopes War Record Attracts Vets

Tuesday, February 17, 2004

WASHINGTON — John Kerry (search) stands astride the decades, reaching back 35 years to his days as a Vietnam War hero to show the measure of his character now as a presidential candidate.

The pitch has been a powerful energizer for Kerry's campaign and now critics are hoping to use the rest of Kerry's war story to the opposite effect.

Kerry rarely gives a speech anymore without thanking the "band of brothers" who helped catapult his presidential bid from lost cause to apparent Juggernaut. With phone banks, personal appearances and campaign ad testimonials, Kerry's war buddies and other veterans have been a surprisingly potent mobilizing force for the Massachusetts senator.

"We noticed it first in Iowa," says Max Cleland (search), the former Georgia Democratic senator and decorated Vietnam veteran who has campaigned tirelessly for Kerry. "It is a generational phenomenon. ... John Kerry empowers veterans to feel good about themselves."

Veterans, says former Clinton administration Veterans Affairs Secretary Herschel Gober (search), typically are more like submarines, running beneath the surface in American politics. "But I think this year they've come up," he says. "They're excited because they've got a chance to have a Vietnam veteran sitting in the White House."

As with so many aspects of Kerry's personality, there are multiple sides to his Vietnam story. Kerry came home from the war with three Purple Hearts, a Silver Star, a Bronze Star and growing disillusionment about the war effort. His three war injuries — all minor — were enough to allow him an early return to stateside duty. And after petitioning for honorable discharge six months early, Kerry became a leading force in Vietnam Veterans Against the War.

At one Washington protest, he tossed away the ribbons he had received with his war medals, and threw away the medals of other veterans who weren't able to attend. On Capitol Hill, he told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"

In the same hearing, he testified that U.S. soldiers had been involved in gruesome atrocities — rapes, beheadings, random killings of civilians. "We feel because of what threatens this country — not the reds, but the crimes which we are committing that threaten it — that we have to speak out," he testified.

Kerry's anti-war activities still make some veterans uncomfortable, and that is tinder Kerry's critics hope to turn into a bonfire.

Gober worked to mobilize veterans for Wesley Clark until the retired Army general dropped out the race, and Gober now has endorsed Kerry. He says of Kerry's anti-war efforts: "Some people will not forgive him for that." But he predicts that more veterans will vote for Kerry because of his war-related actions than against him.

Exit polls from the Democratic primaries show Kerry running strong among voters from veteran households, just as he has in the general population. But political analysts caution against thinking veterans will be a decisive voting bloc in November.

"Every group in politics, from the religious right to people who want to save the whales, has their day in the sun as the allegedly critical, decisive group in an election," said William Bianco, a Pennsylvania State University political scientist. "This year, it's veterans. However, there's little evidence of a sizable veterans' effect."

Bianco said veterans tend to be Republicans and vote for Republican candidates at very high levels.

Michael Coale, a Vietnam veteran who was volunteering his help at the Vietnam Memorial on a recent cold, sunny afternoon, said he doesn't understand some of Kerry's anti-war conduct but was unsure whom he'd support for president.

"We were out there laying our lives on the line," he said. "I was drafted. I say, don't stab us soldiers in the back and say we were baby killers."

Cleland, who came home from Vietnam a triple amputee, said most veterans he talks to are glad to see Kerry validate their military service, but he encounters occasional negative sentiment from vets who are "not comfortable with the fact that he was the lead dog back in the early 1970s."

"But what I suggest is that John was articulating what so many of us felt deep in our gut," Cleland said. "I wouldn't have joined an anti-war parade, but John came back and began to see that the greatest service to his veterans was to fight (President) Nixon and to stop the war."

Cleland, who lost his 2002 Senate re-election race after his patriotism was questioned when he refused to vote for creation of a Homeland Security Department, said a "slime machine" was gearing up to turn Kerry's war record against him.

Ted Sampley, a retired Green Beret who has started a Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry Web site, is happy to volunteer.

Sampley, who has long been a Kerry detractor, has posted a photo that shows Kerry sitting three rows behind Jane Fonda at an anti-war rally in 1970, two years before her much-criticized trip to Hanoi.

Kerry, asked about the photo Friday, disassociated himself from what he called Fonda's "terrible" choice but said he thought his stance against the war was "a measurement of character."

"I didn't love coming back from the war I fought in and having to tell people, 'This is wrong, this is screwed up.' But it was," he said.

"And one of the things I'm proudest of," Kerry added, "is that throughout that period we didn't just talk about the war, we talked about the way veterans were treated."

John Hurley, who heads Veterans for Kerry and has known the candidate since his war-protester days, dismissed the anti-Kerry veterans as a fringe, "noisy minority" and predicted that even Republican veterans will be drawn to Kerry's campaign because of the "painful similarities" between Nixon's handling of Vietnam and how President Bush has approached the Iraq war.

"I think veterans are beginning to feel that this is our guy, this is our voice, this is someone who will stand up for us," he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; kerry; militaryrecord; psuedohero; veteransvote; vietnam; vietnamwar
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"Kerry Hopes War Record Attracts Vets"

It will. Unfortunately for him, however, the Khymer Rouge and Viet Cong veterans can't vote in American elections.

1 posted on 02/17/2004 2:02:39 PM PST by ZULU
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To: ZULU
I wouldn't be so sure. This is the democrats were talking about.
2 posted on 02/17/2004 2:03:53 PM PST by scarface367 (This tagline known to the state of California to cause cancer in laboratory animals)
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To: ZULU
It sure attracted my attention! I wouldn't vote for this communist if you put a gun in my ear and threatened to pull the trigger. I consider his anti-war crap to be treason when American men and women were still in harm's way in Nam while this SOB was playing up to Hanoi Jane and her communist husband Tom Hayden. He is garbage, trash, a traitor, a communist, a socialist. He does not come close to being eligible to wear the label of President of the United States of America. If we become a socialist republic of the Soviet Union, he would qualify as commissar. This guy is trash, garbage. I detest him. Later, if you like, I will really tell you what I think of him.
3 posted on 02/17/2004 2:09:35 PM PST by RetiredArmy (We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American Way! Toby Keith)
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To: ZULU
aka Back-Stabber Kerry
4 posted on 02/17/2004 2:10:07 PM PST by kaktuskid
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To: ZULU
This is one vet that Comrade Kerry "Hanoi John" hasn't fooled.
5 posted on 02/17/2004 2:11:14 PM PST by Militiaman7 (Do not fear tomorrow, God is already there.)
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"We noticed it first in Iowa," says Max Cleland (search), the former Georgia Democratic senator and decorated Vietnam veteran who has campaigned tirelessly for Kerry. "It is a generational phenomenon. ... John Kerry empowers veterans to feel good about themselves."

I am beyond disgusted.

6 posted on 02/17/2004 2:14:03 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Until Kofi Annan rides the Jerusalem RTD....nothing will change.)
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"He is garbage, trash, a traitor, a communist, a socialist. He does not come close to being eligible to wear the label of President of the United States of America. If we become a socialist republic of the Soviet Union, he would qualify as commissar. This guy is trash, garbage. I detest him. Later, if you like, I will really tell you what I think of him."

BTTT

7 posted on 02/17/2004 2:16:57 PM PST by international american (Support our troops........................................revoke Hillary's visa!!)
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To: ZULU
Kerry's a self confessed war criminal.We don't need that in the White House.
8 posted on 02/17/2004 2:19:38 PM PST by Free Trapper (One with courage is often a majority.)
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Kerry Hopes War Record Attracts Vets

ROFL !!!! Which record......... Kerry with other troops or Kerry with Hanoi Jane?

I think he will get the attention of some vets all right, but maybe not the way the Dems hope.

9 posted on 02/17/2004 2:19:59 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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If they could, every veteran terrorist in the whole world would vote for Kerry.
10 posted on 02/17/2004 2:21:17 PM PST by tractorman
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I don't think his heroism is going to resonate much with the vets who watched him trash his country after he returned. Yeah, the Ron Kovics of the world may be drawn to him, but any American who sacrificed isn't going to think much of the whiny baby Kerry became.
11 posted on 02/17/2004 2:26:51 PM PST by IronJack
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"Kerry Hopes War Record Attracts Vets"

This was a very divided time in America. This division caused many more to have to die. Kerry may have served, but he blew it when he came back. Kerry was at best misguided in the path that he took in my opinion. How many more had to die because of the demonstrations against the war?

Kerry and the democrats opposing the Iraq war seem to have the same effect as it did in Vietnam. A divided America only gives hope to our enemy.

What the Democrats can't seem to understand is the fact that we have been attacked and continue to be attacked everyday. The fact that it is in Iraq does not make it any less of an attack on America. This enemy must be conquered.
12 posted on 02/17/2004 2:26:59 PM PST by HoundsTooth_BP
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NOT this war vet.

He can stick it up his 4 point contact for all I care.

13 posted on 02/17/2004 2:29:18 PM PST by GulfWar1Vet (I am an AMERICAN who is FREE! Are YOU?)
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To: RetiredArmy
The falthy bistard ought to still be in jail at Leavenworth.

Semper Fi,
14 posted on 02/17/2004 2:31:48 PM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
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To: ZULU
3 bandaids do not a hero make!!!! I wouldn't discredit his service, but he sure as hell got his ass outta there and the navy as soon as possible.

There are a whole lot of Veterans he does NOT want to attract. A caller to Rush today wanted to know where VFW and American Legion is. It is my understanding that both are 501c3 and politics are off limits or they lose the tax exemption status. Someone that actually knows something, please correct me if i am wrong.

thanks

Jack
15 posted on 02/17/2004 2:34:49 PM PST by cajun-jack
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To: ZULU
Rockets and mortars and a ground attack or two
these are some things the dreaded Cong can do to you
so pull back your bunker guards and lay your weapons down
and we'll all chieu hoi and go down to Bien Hoa town.
Ohhhh, Bien Hoa town
16 posted on 02/17/2004 2:36:26 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Cheer up. The internet is the memory of all things.

VIETNAM WAR VETERAN JOHN KERRY'S TESTIMONY BEFORE THE SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE, APRIL 22, 1971


Editorial Notes by Dr. Ernest Bolt, University of Richmond

http://www.richmond.edu/~ebolt/history398/JohnKerryTestimony.html

"......I am not here as John Kerry. I am here as one member of the group of 1,000 which is a small representation of a very much larger group of veterans in this country, and were it possible for all of them to sit at this table they would be here and have

the same kind of testimony...."

So for all you Vietnam vets out there, Kerry spoke for all of you without your permission.



17 posted on 02/17/2004 2:38:40 PM PST by OpusatFR (Search Google for your posting name. Get a suprise!)
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Kerry Hopes War Record Attracts Vets.

The Viet veterans will remember Hanoi JFKerry, as they remember Hanoi Jane sitting on a AA gun - Traitors, and supporters of the enemy. Kerry is one of the anti-American, anti-war demonstrators of the 70's. He is not worthy of being president of my country.

18 posted on 02/17/2004 2:45:19 PM PST by chainsaw
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... John Kerry empowers veterans to feel good about themselves."

I am beyond disgusted.

Don't be - there is some truth to the above. After all, if I were a Vietnam Vet, I'd feel REAL GOOD about being EMPOWERED to vote against that traitor.

Just speaking for myself, of course...

19 posted on 02/17/2004 2:46:04 PM PST by jscd3
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To: ZULU
As a veteran I sincerely tell Kerry that he can take his communist a$$ back to Vietnam.
20 posted on 02/17/2004 2:48:10 PM PST by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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