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Gotcha

[Williams]

But the republicans must develop this properly. They are letting every talking head discuss the entire issue as being a "photograph" of Kerry sitting several rows behind Fonda. Do I really have to tell these guys that the side that defines the issue - wins?

[McGruff]

Brinkley told Malzberg, "They were minor wounds."

I heard Mark Levin report this too on his radio show this pst week. Anybody got the details.

[mtbopfuyn]

So why are the veterans lining up to support him?

[soozla]

"Of the Valley Forge protest, Fonda told CNN, "I don't know if we even shook hands."

KLUTE

[ALOHA RONNIE]

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'JOHN KERRY = Enemy of Vietnam Vets'

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1320



Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer / Vet-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
(IA DRANG-1965 Photos)

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[Tall_Texan]

Will somebody explain to me again what is relevant about what anyone did in the 1970s with regard to a presidential campaign 30 years later?

G.W. Bush has a record of six years as governor and three years as President. Kerry has a record of more than a decade in the U.S. Senate. Does anyone care to debate THOSE?
They are not running for General. They are running for a political office and both have an established history in politics which OUGHT to be the focus of the campaign.

It proves how shallow and baseless both camps are when they have to resort to things that happened 30 years ago when both were young and foolish.

Geez Louise! Usually I'm not fed up with a political campaign until summer. It's not even March and I'm already sick and tired of this campaign. Can somebody just fast-forward my life to next December - PLEASE??

[ml/nj]

According to what I have found, this "march" took place September 4-7, 1970. If there are any Freepers in the Valley Forge area with access to microfilm of the local papers, you might see if you can find any interesting photos.

I'll be checking what I can in Morristown.

ML/NJ

[Destro]

Presidential historian Douglas Brinkley revealed Sunday that Democratic presidential front-runner John Kerry personally met with "Hanoi Jane" Fonda

That is a distortion of the truth in that they are attempting to link Kerry to "Hanoi" Jane. Hanoi Jane went to North Vietname in 1972 and 1974 a full year or so after this rally they were at. So Kerry meet with Jane before she was Hanoi Jane-before her trip to Hanoi and the attempt to make it seem so is disingenuous and even Clintonian. That is why this issue will not make any headway with vetrens and Dennis Miller dismissed the photo it on his television show. Pushing this issue in this manner is not only counter productice but makes our side look foolish, ignorant of the hostorical time frame and turns independent voters off.

You all want to earn a medal? Find proof of a Kerry-Fonda meeting AFTER her trip to Hanoi. That would be killer.

[OldFriend]

Evidently Brinkley does not want to be part of apologyzing for Kerry's anti war, anti American betrayal.

Wonder what Kerry thinks of all this.

It would seem that Brinkley has material not released that he is willing to share.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

The were/are both useful idiots of the same socialist-inspired subversion.

Their paths must have crossed hundreds of times.

[Mike Darancette]

The activist and the top Democrat both offered accounts last week that minimized their contact during the 1970s, with Fonda describing efforts to link her to Kerry as part of a "big lie" campaign to discredit the presidential front-runner.

VVAW was founded in New York City in 1967 after six Vietnam veterans marched together in an anti-war demonstration. As opposition to the war grew, membership in the VVAW grew from 600 members in 1970 to 7,000 in 1971. This was however a very small proportion of returning combatants. At this time, VVAW is said to have received significant financial support from Jane Fonda. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_Veterans_Against_the_War

[Aquinasfan]

"Oh, John!"

"Oh, Jane!"

[the invisib1e hand]

"John Kerry and Jane Fonda were just acquaintances."

what? "Sleazeball" and a hottie like Jane just acquaintences?

Course, on the other hand, he probably couldn't even attract women without the Heinz fortune, so perhaps Jane really wasn't brought under his 'spell.'

[witnesstothefall]

Eaaaaaaaaasy people. We're this close to having a Massachusetts liberal complete with bimbo eruptions and a Jane Fonda alliance having a lock on the Dem nomination.

Let him be, for now.....

[GreenHornet]

On a related subject, Brinkley said that Kerry's Vietnam war wounds, for which he received three Purple Hearts, were not particularly serious. Asked about the severity of Kerry's injuries, Brinkley told Malzberg, "They were minor wounds."

I think it's very dangerous for us to engage in any kind of debate regarding the extent of Kerry's wounds, and the circumstances under which his medals were awarded. The Rats will jump all over this, and accuse the Republicans of denigrating every serviceman who was wounded in battle. That's not what we should be focusing on.

The real story here is what Kerry did after he returned from Viet Nam - his relationship with Hanoi Jane, his outrageous charges of atrocities leveled against other Viet Nam vets, etc. That is where Kerry is vulnerable, and that's where he should be held accountable.

[js1138]

I have been saying for a long time that this is going to be 1968 all over again, but I hardly expected this.

Kerry will be the most devisive presidential candidate ever. Win or lose, he will split America like nothing since the Civil War. Two trains have left their stations, headed in opposite directions, on the same track.

[highlander_UW]

Of course they lied...they are democrats.

Breaking news just in...bears do indeed defecate in the woods.

[Fedora]

Brinkley's credentials as a historian will make his report and opinion harder to dismiss than Drudge's. Anyone know his political affiliations, though? His biography of Dean Acheson struck me as Democrat-leaning, but his biography of James Forrestal at least attempted to be fair, and he's been affiliated with institutions named after Presidents of both parties (Theodore Roosevelt Association, Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt Institute, Eisenhower Center for American Studies), so I'm not quite sure where in the political spectrum he falls. If he is pro-Democrat, I'd find it interesting that he's joined the attack on Kerry.

At any rate, what he says sounds credible. As I've already discussed/debated in other threads, Kerry's support of the antiwar movement, as well as Fonda's, predated Fonda's visit to Hanoi, going back to his college days at Yale when he was rooming with Harvey H. Bundy III and giving speeches echoing Senator J. William Fulbright's support of North Vietnam. Nor is this merely digging up 30-year-old dirt, because Kerry's support of the far left has been continuous since then, as evidenced by his support of Senator Fulbright's 1971 antiwar investigations, the nuclear freeze movement against Reagan's programs, the Institute for Policy Studies' pro-Sandinista propaganda, etc., leading up to his current alliance with Joseph Wilson to undermine the credibility of US intelligence.

[jwalsh07]

Asked about the severity of Kerry's injuries, Brinkley told Malzberg, "They were minor wounds."

Well hell, lets see the records. You never know he might have had a hemoorhoid or a chancre sore.