Posted on 02/13/2004 8:34:02 AM PST by chance33_98
Dad Slugs Man Who Offers Money To Girl For Sex
YORK, Pa. -- What would you do if a man offered to pay your teenage daughter for sex while she was shopping?
Jimmy Hunt punched the man in the face. Prosecutors in York charged Hunt with disorderly conduct and simple assault. But they later dropped the charges after concluding that no jury would convict him.
Prosecutor Bill Graff said you can't take the law into your own hands, but it's likely that they'd get parents who'd say that's what they'd do if it was their daughter.
There's no disputing the fact that Hunt punched Armondo Hernandez in the face after he approached Hunt's 17-year-old daughter while she was shopping for nail polish at a Wal-Mart. Hunt called police after the incident.
Hernandez has pleaded guilty to indecent assault and harassment.
Occasionally justice is served.
Yea, the judge and jury might give him a metal and CONVICT the prosecutors.
You said, and I quote "Your argument that if a "victim defends herself or himself by hitting another person," while I understand what you are saying, still doesn't fall into the legal definition of self defense. "
Therefore, by your definition ... a rape victim must be arrested for fighting back, a mugging victim must arrested for fighting off their attacker, etc.
It's always one person's word against the other.
So, by definition, everytime any physical contact takes place between two parties, the police MUST arrest both parties and let a judge or jury sort it out.
I clearly disagree.
I have no dog in this fight, but come on, the chances of a person being illegal alien are greater if they have a Hispanic last name than a Western Eurpoean or Jewish surname.
And one plus one equals two, and grass is green.
Drop the policital correct nonesense.
That, plus the fact that there are approximately 10-15 million people illegally in the United States who have "Latin" names.
Just like it would have been fair and oh, so life & death important to have known that Rafael Racindez Ramariz was a double-digit number of times Illegal alien border crasher.
Who was Ramairz? "The Train Killer" from '98 or '99, who killed more than a dozen people in the rural heartland, all near freight train lines.
For the record, I think it was established that Ramariz in not the killers real name, it's just the one I remember.
But I don't expect the legality of a perp to be mentioned in most national news stories. It's so unPC you see.
There is much crime in this country. Lawful citizens deserve to know explicity how many Illegals commit crimes so they can make informed decisions RE immigration/border policy.
Paging Mike Hunt. Mike Hunt.
Human Events Online says the following; also read linked column by Larry Hicks for even more details -
No Deal For This Dad: Jimmy Ray Hunt was at home in York, Pa., on July 3, 2003, when his 17-year-old daughter Jamie called with an emergency.
"Jamie," writes columnist Larry A. Hicks of the York Dispatch, "was at Wal-Mart shopping for nail polish when she was approached by Armondo Hernandez, an illegal alien who happens to be 22 years her senior. Hernandez is alleged to have propositioned Jamie Hunt, offering her $200 and $300 for sex and touching her repeatedly…quot;even after she clearly told him to leave her alone."
Hunt raced to the Wal-Mart, keeping his daughter on the line. When he arrived, Hernandez was coming at his daughter again. So, Hunt punched him in the nose, and detained him for the police.
But they arrested Hunt, too. Hernandez pleaded guilty to indecent assault and harassment, and is now awaiting deportation. Hunt was charged with simple assault and disorderly conduct. But he is refusing a plea bargain offered by the prosecutor. "I told them no…quot;I'm not pleading guilty to anything," Hunt told columnist Hicks. "I'll take my chances with a jury."
What law? The law of survival?
"Prosecutor Bill Graff" needs to be reminded for whom he is working.
I guess the cops you know are mind readers and can't be fooled by lies.
I remember a couple of years ago in my neighborhood, a guy beat somone with a baseball bat, his claim was that this other person tried to kidnap his 8 year old daughter, he had a few witnesses to verify his story too (friends, later turned out to be gang members). Only after some good old fashioned police work did it become clear that this was over gambling debts.
Also arrests can be expunged from your record, so far right now, I believe this father, but for all we could know he could be pimping her or something, or this could involve a million things, we don't know, but because the cops did there job, it can be ruled out.
This may shock you, but some criminals do lie and can also play the victim, they may even be able to get a witness to b.s. for them, doesn't mean you just let them walk because they "seem" honest.
So, you do adocate arresting the mugging victim or rape victim if there is evidence that their attacker incurred a physical injury?
I'm not arguing with you, I just want to be sure that this is your position.
I mean, they aren't mind readers. The sex *could* have simply been rough consensual sex, and the guy who was being mugged *could* have overreacted to a slight bumb on the head.
It's never obvious who is innocent and who is guilty? Really? It always takes the power of a mind reader?
That is you official position?
This may shock you, but some criminals do lie and can also play the victim, they may even be able to get a witness to b.s. for them, doesn't mean you just let them walk because they "seem" honest.
Well, then round up all those rape victims who fought back and arrest 'em. I mean, you pretty much gotta, cause it's possible they were simply playing the victim.
*shrug* If that's what you think, that's what you think. Not sure I agree, but that's okay.
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