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Terrorists ready for holy war in 40 American states
The Herald ^ | February 11 2004 | IAN BRUCE

Posted on 02/10/2004 10:25:24 PM PST by Bobibutu

Terrorists ready for holy war in 40 American states

IAN BRUCE, Defence Correspondent February 11 2004

ISLAMIC terror commandos are being infiltrated into the US in preparation for "an American jihad" from within, according to intelligence sources. Dozens of radicals trained in camps in western Pakistan and Kashmir are already believed to have slipped into the country and been absorbed in sleeper cells in unsuspecting Muslim communities as the vanguard of a holy army estimated to be several hundred strong. An FBI spokesman said al Qaeda and allied organisations were thought to be operating in 40 American states, awaiting orders for terror attacks. An official said up to 400 known radicals had passed through the camps. Many of the camps are run by Harakat-ul-Ansar and Lashkar-e-Taiba, militant groups with links to al Qaeda and a history of grooming guerrillas to attack security forces. India and Pakistan last month announced a peace initiative on disputed Kashmir. General Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's president, said his country would not allow terrorist training on its soil. However, Indian and US intelligence agencies claim to have surveillance photographs and intercepted signals which show that between 60 and 70 camps are still in use. Some which were closed after the September 11 attacks on the US have also been reactivated. Pakistani authorities have arrested hundreds of al Qaeda suspects, including Abu Zubaydah, its top recruiting officer, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, chief of operations, and Ramzi Binalshibh, paymaster of the September 11 hijackers. US officials suspect that Pakistan's inter-services intelligence agency, which created and fostered the Taliban movement in Afghanistan, has not broken all its Islamic links with terrorist organisations. FBI agents last year arrested 11 men, including nine US citizens, for involvement in what became known as "the Virginia jihad". All were accused of engaging in terrorist training at camps run by Lashkar-e-Taiba. Six have since pleaded guilty. Ashraf Jehangir Qazi, Pakistan's ambassador to the US, yesterday denied the existence of any terrorist camps in his country or in Pakistan-controlled Kashmir. In Ukraine yesterday, the foreign ministry denied reports that scientists had sold nuclear weapons to al Qaeda. Markian Lubkiyvskyi, a spokesman, said Ukraine had transferred all its nuclear weapons to Russia by June 1, 1996.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; harakatulansar; jihadinamerica; lashkaretaiba; pakistan; redcross; virginiajihad
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To: Bobibutu
So how much are these illegals going to cost us in SS monies and are they going to demand divers licenses and the right to vote?
21 posted on 02/10/2004 11:13:30 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: GeronL
Let them try.

Once wasn't enough for you?

22 posted on 02/10/2004 11:24:08 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Oh, I think they might be in for a surprise. I doubt we'll be as relunctant and nice next time.
23 posted on 02/10/2004 11:26:42 PM PST by GeronL (www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Once wasn't enough for you?

Some of us aren't going to hold our breathes waiting on Gov't if there is a next time.

24 posted on 02/10/2004 11:28:40 PM PST by Michael Barnes (WPNS, 3/1 1st Mar Div.)
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To: GeronL
Let them try.

Once wasn't enough for you?

Oh, I think they might be in for a surprise. I doubt we'll be as relunctant and nice next time.

Huh?

The intelligence sources say they are thought to be in 40 states and your telling me you think *they* are in for a surprise?

25 posted on 02/10/2004 11:33:55 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I bet we have them outnumbered. and we know where their families and cousins live.
26 posted on 02/10/2004 11:38:00 PM PST by GeronL (www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
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To: GeronL
What?
27 posted on 02/10/2004 11:41:46 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Bobibutu; mhking; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Ragtime Cowgirl; Calpernia; Alamo-Girl; windchime; ...
Bumps on the head
28 posted on 02/10/2004 11:48:00 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (I may never have the Courage to say some words but i will always have it to say what i believe !!!)
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To: GeronL
Probably the saddest aspect to any new organized coordinated attack is that after an initial period of panic (which could be brief and as little as a few hours), I would expect that the rank and file in the americas will begin to take their frustarations out on anybody who remotely looks Muslim or Mid Eastern.

That will be a very wide net - it will probably snare and victimize many Indians and Hindus, innocent Muslims, and some sad folks who bear even a superficial resemblance to people from that part of the world.

If a coordinated attack victimizes americans in significant numbers (and the benchmark here is the 3,000 victimized on 9-11-01), say 10,000, 20,000 or 30,000 nationwide, I think things will get very ugly, very quickly in the hours after such a formidable attack.

A shame. I hope we avert such a disaster but I think another attack is inevitable. I don;t think the reaction I am describing is inevitable, but I feel it is likely.
29 posted on 02/10/2004 11:55:23 PM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Bobibutu; *JIHAD IN AMERICA
Thanks for posting this!
30 posted on 02/11/2004 12:36:27 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: HitmanNY
Probably the saddest aspect to any new organized coordinated attack is that after an initial period of panic (which could be brief and as little as a few hours), I would expect that the rank and file in the americas will begin to take their frustarations out on anybody who remotely looks Muslim or Mid Eastern.

I'm more worried that the reaction will be, "we brought it on ourselves", "we deserved it", "we had it coming", etc.

31 posted on 02/11/2004 2:08:18 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: GeronL
second thing... I have never heard of a british paper called the Herald...

It's the best-seller where I live.

32 posted on 02/11/2004 2:14:52 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Bobibutu
I bet Bush and our Intelligence knows this and are keeping a quiet watchful eye on them. I have faith in our President.
33 posted on 02/11/2004 4:31:18 AM PST by beckysueb (Lady Liberty is in danger! Bush/Cheney 04.)
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To: Consort
we already have the Democrats here.

That's just it. How are we to tell the terrorists from the liberals? They behave in similar ways (Hate American, Bush, they smell...).

34 posted on 02/11/2004 4:36:27 AM PST by Snowy
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To: Bobibutu
Terrorists ready for holy war in 40 American states

Which 40?

35 posted on 02/11/2004 4:44:40 AM PST by wai-ming
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To: radiohead; Valin
LEOs at all levels will tell you that there is no cooperation with their efforts in America's muslim communities. These terrorists, either home grown or infiltrated, move in, blend in, pray to allah for success in their murdering plans at the local mosque and nobody says a word. Same thing in the UK.

Oh, maybe some muslim looking to convince us that they really are just like us will write an editorial...I guess that's good enough.

If these muslim communities were as "peaceful" as they want us to believe there would be call jams on the anti-terror hotlines.

A former associate is on the JTF representing the NYPD. The most common call they get is some muslim trying to get them to solve a personal problem they have with another muslim. They drop a dime hoping their problem will be deported.

36 posted on 02/11/2004 4:51:56 AM PST by wtc911 (Who are you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?)
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To: lewislynn
John Kerry and the Democrats are bringing them in here. When the war first started I remember Ellen Ratner saying she wished the war would go badly for us. She being a big liberal spokes person and on the inside of the Democrat Party speaks for itself.
90% of illegals voted Democrat last election. This speaks for itself.
37 posted on 02/11/2004 4:55:25 AM PST by gunnedah
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To: beckysueb
"I bet Bush and our Intelligence knows this and are keeping a quiet watchful eye on them. I have faith in our President."

I'd like to agree with you, but after numerous recent intel failures do you really feel comfortable?

38 posted on 02/11/2004 5:02:18 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: Bobibutu
punctuation on

Terrorists ready for holy war in 40 American states

IAN BRUCE, Defence Correspondent February 11 2004

ISLAMIC terror commandos are being infiltrated into the US in preparation for "an American jihad" from within, according to intelligence sources. Dozens of radicals trained in camps in western Pakistan and Kashmir are already believed to have slipped into the country and been absorbed in sleeper cells in unsuspecting Muslim communities as the vanguard of a holy army estimated to be several hundred strong.

An FBI spokesman said al Qaeda and allied organisations were thought to be operating in 40 American states, awaiting orders for terror attacks. An official said up to 400 known radicals had passed through the camps.

Many of the camps are run by Harakat-ul-Ansar and Lashkar-e-Taiba, militant groups with links to al Qaeda and a history of grooming guerrillas to attack security forces.

India and Pakistan last month announced a peace initiative on disputed Kashmir. General Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's president, said his country would not allow terrorist training on its soil. However, Indian and US intelligence agencies claim to have surveillance photographs and intercepted signals which show that between 60 and 70 camps are still in use. Some which were closed after the September 11 attacks on the US have also been reactivated.

Pakistani authorities have arrested hundreds of al Qaeda suspects, including Abu Zubaydah, its top recruiting officer, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, chief of operations, and Ramzi Binalshibh, paymaster of the September 11 hijackers.

US officials suspect that Pakistan's inter-services intelligence agency, which created and fostered the Taliban movement in Afghanistan, has not broken all its Islamic links with terrorist organisations. FBI agents last year arrested 11 men, including nine US citizens, for involvement in what became known as "the Virginia jihad". All were accused of engaging in terrorist training at camps run by Lashkar-e-Taiba. Six have since pleaded guilty. Ashraf Jehangir Qazi, Pakistan's ambassador to the US, yesterday denied the existence of any terrorist camps in his country or in Pakistan-controlled Kashmir.

In Ukraine yesterday, the foreign ministry denied reports that scientists had sold nuclear weapons to al Qaeda. Markian Lubkiyvskyi, a spokesman, said Ukraine had transferred all its nuclear weapons to Russia by June 1, 1996.

39 posted on 02/11/2004 5:02:47 AM PST by kt56
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To: wai-ming
I guess the ones where there aren't guns and ammunition
in every home. Even better, where gun control has been
in effect for awhile. Everybody around here keeps hunting
guns because we aren't so far removed from the times when
it was a wilderness here.
40 posted on 02/11/2004 5:03:06 AM PST by Twinkie
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