The hypocrisy and dishonesty of Terri Schiavo’s executioners is exposed!

St. Pete Times forum ^ | 2-09-04 | JWK

[JOHN W K]

Starting sometime in June, Pinellas County residents will, for all intents and purposes, be compelled to ingest a product used in rat poison which will be added to their domestic water supply. The addition of fluoride to the water supply is not meant to make the water supply safe to drink, but rather, will be added to the water supply because some folks in government have taken it upon themselves to make a medical decision ... This forced ingestion of an identifiable substance for its alleged health benefits would appear to violate what Michael Schiavo’s lawyer might claim is a violation of the “privacy” of individuals mentioned in Article 1, Section 23 of Florida’s Constitution,

[JOHN W K]

Seems those who claim they want Terri left to die because the state should not force a “medical treatment” upon her, which amounts to nothing more than feeding her, have a problem understanding that the Pinellas County Commission in Florida specifically, and intentionally, approved adding fluoride to the public water supply as a medical treatment, allegedly beneficial for teeth, and thereby violated the people‘s “fundamental right to refuse unwanted medical treatment” which Felos, Terri’s lawyer, makes reference to in his brief, and does so relying upon the “privacy“ mentioned in Article 1, Section 23 of Florida‘s Constitution.

In the Feles brief, he declares, in caps:

“THE LEGISLATURE’S UNPRECEDENTED INVAISION OF TERRI SCHIAVO’S RIGHT TO CONTROL HER HEALTH CARE TREATMENT VIOLATES HER CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS..“

And then , under A. he states:

“Mrs. Schiavo Has A Fundamental Privacy Right to Refuse Unwanted Medical Treatment…”

See the Felos brief

I am just bringing this to your attention to show how a specific group, here in Florida, who repeatedly claimed they simply wanted to protect Terri’s right to refuse medical treatment, now say this same protection does not apply to those who wish to refuse having a poison added to their drinking water without their consent and approval.

Sincerely,

JWK

ACRS

[TaxRelief]

Very good catch. This idea needs to be developed more thoroughly. What other medical treatments are being forced on us by the government?

• Children are frequently stolen by CPS/DSS when parents reject medical intervention or vaccines.
  
• People are forced to hook up to public water or public sewer systems.
  
• Protein is added to flour and bread.
  
• Iodine is added to salt.
  
• Vitamins are added to cereals.
  
• Cigarettes are severely restricted.

The Fluoride situation has already stood the test of the judicial system. Could this case law help Terri? Could Terri's case law help those who oppose government intrusion?

[AMDG&BVMH]

"Children are frequently stolen by CPS/DSS when parents reject medical intervention or vaccines"

Even to go to school, the kids have to have the vaccines. Also, military personnel have been forced to take vaccines, although the military always has less freedom and privacy than the ordinary citizen. Also don't you need certain vaccines to get a passport/visa?

The point is not that some of these treatments might be good or bad for the individual or public health -- but, as you say, that they are not voluntary, and are thus involuntary medical treatments . . .

[Britton J Wingfield]

Nobody is forced to drink municipal water.

[Saundra Duffy]

Go, Terri!

[JOHN W K]

The question is about the people’s right in Pinellas County, you know, were Terri lives, to be free of folks in government dispensing medical treatment which affects them without their consent, especially when there is no imminent threat to the general public health which can be pointed to to justify the otherwise constitutionally forbidden invasion of the people’s inherent right to be free of unwanted medical treatment.

There were those ranting and raving in support of Terri’s right to control her own health care treatment, and that Terri’s Law invaded that right by the provisions of the Florida Constitution. Are you suggesting the Pinellas County Commission’s authority supercedes the Florida Constitution and they are authorized to dispense unwanted medical treatment, dispensing such medical treatment to Pinellas County residents without their consent?

JWK ACRS

[Britton J Wingfield]

I am suggesting that nobody drinks the water without consenting to do so. It's just not a good example, imho.

[JOHN W K]

Good example of what?

[Britton J Wingfield]

example of "government dispensing medical treatment which affects them without their consent".

Don't like it, don't drink it. Get a filter, or some bottled water.

[JOHN W K]

Your smug remark does not take into account the people who cannot afford filters. Fact is, the fluoridation of the waster is being done as an intentional health treatment and being done to the “public” water supply to allegedly improve health when there is no imminent health threat to the community. In such cases the people affected, in our system of government, ought to at least give their consent See: Court rules Manchester fluoridation is illegal in which attorney Jed Callen stated "I think they recognize that fluoride is a serious and controversial matter and people have a right to determine if they want to be dosed with a drug or not."

In addition, I strongly recommend you reading: U.S. Senate Hears Protective Measures for Fluoride are Insufficient

“As final comment, Dr. Hirzy reiterated evidence of increased levels of lead found in children's blood when the untested hazardous wastes from the phosphate fertilizer industry that are used in 90% of the fluoridation programs are present in public water systems. Hirzy further cited the existence of numerous studies linking fluoride to neurological impairment, and the findings of three separate courts, never overturned on the merits of the case, that concluded after weeks of testimony from expert witnesses that fluoride at the level found in fluoridated water did indeed cause adverse health effects including cancer; yet no substantive hearing by Congress has been held for 23 years.”

Something shady is taking place!

In Terri’s case the State Legislature and Governor Bush has properly intervened with Terri’s Law in view of the fact she left no written instruction and in such cases the state is to err on the side of life. Felos, Michael Schiavo’s lawyer, has argued Terri’s Law violates Terri’s right to refuse medical treatment, but the fact is, she has neither asked for the treatment [feeding] nor rejected it, and so, Terri’s Law is in harmony with the principle that the State ought to err on the side of life. But in the case of fluoridation of the public water supply, without the people’s consent, the Felos brief makes the case that the Pinellas County Commission has violated the people right to be free of unwanted medical treatment, rather than Terri’s Law violates Terri’s rights. JWK

ACRS

[Britton J Wingfield]

You could filter it through your tinfoil hat. That'll keep them from sapping your precious bodily fluids.

[JOHN W K]

Whatever you say dear.

[a5478]

Should healthy, clean drinking water be a responsibility of municipality? Surely you have been places where it isn't.