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An Absence in Alabama
Time ^ | February 8, 2004 | Mark Thompson, James Carney

Posted on 02/08/2004 2:46:15 PM PST by demlosers

As Bush's military service re-emerges as an issue, here is what we know—and don't know

When George W. Bush was running for President four years ago, stories raising questions about his Vietnam-era service in the Texas Air National Guard never got much traction. In the Republican primaries, John McCain forbid his staff to exploit the fact that while their guy was being beaten senseless in the Hanoi Hilton, Bush was safe at home, protecting Houston from foreign attack. Al Gore steered clear too. It was not until a week before Election Day in November 2000 that Gore surrogates accused Bush of having gone AWOL—absent without leave—for an entire year while in the Guard. But few journalists, and fewer voters, paid much attention.

Now, thanks to the convergence of a prolonged war in Iraq, a presumptive Democratic nominee with a chestful of Vietnam combat medals and the eagerness of anti-Bush critics to sling accusations at the President, Bush's National Guard record is under scrutiny. It began with Michael Moore, the flamethrowing documentary filmmaker, labeling Bush a "deserter." Then Terry McAuliffe, the Democratic Party chairman, leveled the less serious AWOL charge.

Citing Bush's honorable discharge, military legal experts dismiss the two accusations as rhetoric. "No military lawyer would say what's being alleged here is either desertion or AWOL," says Eugene Fidell, president of the National Institute of Military Justice. But Bush's Guard record is nevertheless emerging as a Rorschach test in the 2004 campaign. Supporters cite the record as evidence of the Commander in Chief's military background and skill: he did well on an officer-qualification test, won praise from fellow pilots for his flying prowess and received an honorable discharge. Opponents see it as a laundry list of how a well-connected Texas scion pulled strings to avoid going to Vietnam, then failed to complete the scant service he signed up for—and now sends tens of thousands of U.S. troops to a war that has lost some of its rationale.

From the start, Bush's military record shows evidence of favoritism, beginning with the way he won a coveted spot in the Texas Air National Guard in May 1968—a time when nearly 300 Americans a week were coming home in body bags. "I'm saying to myself, 'What do I want to do?'" Bush told a Texas interviewer in 1989. "I think I don't want to be an infantry guy as a private in Vietnam. What I do decide to want to do is learn to fly."

After graduating from Yale, Bush leaped to the top of a 500-man Texas Guard wait list, despite scoring poorly on a pilot aptitude test. At the time, Bush's father was a G.O.P. Congressman from Houston, and Ben Barnes—who was speaker of the Texas House in 1968—testified in 1999 that he had put in a good word for Bush with Guard officials at the request of a Bush family friend. Bush got into the Texas Guard's "champagne unit" (along with the sons of other Texas politicians, like John Connally and Lloyd Bentsen) and was trained to fly the F-102 Delta Dagger. After spending more than a year in training, Bush was obligated to report for duty one weekend a month at Houston's Ellington Air Force Base, protecting the Gulf Coast of the U.S. from aerial attack. "No one used political influence to get him into the Guard," Walter B. (Buck) Staudt, Bush's commanding officer in the Texas Guard, insisted last week. "He passed all the tests, did all the stuff that's required. I thought he was a success."

The Texas Guard immortalized Bush's first solo flight in an F-102, issuing a press release at the time celebrating the patriotism of the freshly minted jet jockey. "George Walker Bush is one member of the younger generation who doesn't get his kicks from pot, hashish or speed," it began. Bush got all the high he needed, it continued, flying the F-102. "I've always wanted to be a fighter pilot, and I wouldn't want to fly anything else," the 23-year-old Bush said.

But the thrill soon wore off. Bush spent two years flying part time with the Texas National Guard and then in May 1972, he headed to Alabama to work for six months on the unsuccessful Senate campaign of family friend Winton Blount, who had resigned as chairman of the U.S. Postal Service to seek the seat. Bush applied to perform "equivalent" service with the Alabama National Guard during the campaign. But Bush, a self-admitted carouser in his younger days, apparently played some hooky: no official record of his Alabama service has ever surfaced. Because the Alabama Guard did not fly F-102s, Bush accepted "non-flying status" in Montgomery, according to Texas Guard records. And because he was not flying, he elected not to get his annual flight physical, which forced the Guard to bar him from flying.

Bush was told to report to William Turnipseed, an officer in the Montgomery unit. "Had he reported in, I would have had some recall, and I do not," Turnipseed told the Boston Globe four years ago. "If we had had a first lieutenant from Texas, I would have remembered." But by last week Turnipseed's memory had grown cloudy. "I did say in 2000 that I didn't remember seeing him," Turnipseed, now 75, told TIME. "But after I said that, I backed up and realized I didn't even remember if I was on the base in 1972 or not." Turnipseed said he was so busy checking out new airplanes outside Alabama and training, "I couldn't even follow football." He also noted that he voted for Bush in 2000 and plans to vote for the President again this year.

Bush returned to Houston after Blount lost his Senate race in November 1972. But there is no official record that Bush performed Guard drills during the next six months. In May 1973, Bush's superiors in Houston wrote that they could not give Bush his annual evaluation because he had "not been observed at this unit during the period of this report"—from May 1, 1972, to April 30, 1973. Also in May 1973, the Texas Guard issued two "special orders" directing Bush to report for duty. Over the next three months, Bush returned to his original Texas Guard unit and crammed in 36 days of active duty, apparently fulfilling the Guard's demands. In October 1973 he received an honorable discharge—nearly eight months early—so he could attend Harvard Business School.

Senator John Kerry, the Democratic front runner, received an early discharge from military service too—because he had earned three Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star and a Silver Star during 11 months in Vietnam. That's a comparison his campaign hopes voters will be making this fall. But Kerry and the other Democrats may cause a backlash if they go too far in criticizing Bush's military record. Kerry's statement last week on Bush's service seems to equate National Guard service with avoiding the draft. "I would defend the President's choice with respect to going into the Guard," Kerry told Fox News. "I've never made any judgments about any choice somebody made about avoiding the draft, about going to Canada, going to jail, being a conscientious objector, going into the National Guard." Says Bush campaign spokeswoman Nicole Devenish: "John Kerry's statement was a huge insult to the 400,000 people who serve in the National Guard." Indeed, 48 of those killed in Iraq have been members of the National Guard.

Kerry aides told TIME last week that they were worried their candidate had already come close to crossing the line. "There were a lot of people cringing around here when John let himself get engaged in this thing," said one. "It could backfire, no matter what the truth is." Yet Kerry's war record seems to be working for him. In the latest TIME/CNN poll, 60% of voters say John Kerry did his duty for the country during the Vietnam War, while only 39% make that same assertion for President Bush.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; awol; bush; bushrecord; desertion; kerry; militaryrecord
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To: ambrose
"I am beginning to think that the good General should refuse to discuss this matter further. The media seems bent on either extracting what they want from him or making him look bad."

No, he has to set the record straight. He can do it in a number of ways. One would be to do an interview with an objective reporter from an objective media outlet--maybe in writing and then later a long interview.

Also, he could post here--which would be great. (Turns out there is already a Turnipseed registered here. I wonder if it's the Brig. Gen.?)

There are a number of reporters who will give him a fair shake. Hopefully they will be contacting him soon.
21 posted on 02/08/2004 3:13:45 PM PST by Hon
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To: demlosers
Kerry got out early so he could come home and march with Jane and her gang.
22 posted on 02/08/2004 3:15:06 PM PST by PROUDAMREP (UNITE FOR BUSH IN '04)
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To: demlosers
"I think I read somewhere Kerry did a few months on a ship in the Gulf of Tonkin, and the rest of his tour on a Swift boat in the Mekong Delta."

The link I just posted covers that time frame as well:

December 1967: Kerry begins his first tour of duty, serving on the guided-missile frigate USS Gridley.

February 1968: With Kerry aboard, the Gridley sails into war to patrol the coast of Vietnam. He never came into contact with the enemy during this time.

June 6, 1968: Kerry's first tour ends as the Gridley returns home.

http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/timeline.htm

I believe I read that Kerry's boat only landed ashore at Vietnam one time during this tour.
23 posted on 02/08/2004 3:17:13 PM PST by Hon
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To: omega4412
That accusation was about Bob Kerrey, the former senator from Nebraska, who was in a SEAL unit. Not John Kerry.

Actually, it was about John Kerry.

24 posted on 02/08/2004 3:19:10 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: demlosers
Bush should sue Kerry. Slander.

Knowingly false statments with malice. Honorable discharge says it all & Frenchie knows it.
25 posted on 02/08/2004 3:22:35 PM PST by Finalapproach29er ("Don't shoot Mongo, you'll only make him mad.")
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To: demlosers
Kerry is scumbag...sure, he served, but lost his Core Values when he came home, threw his medals away (which means he feels he didn't earn them), became a hippie-boy and ran with Hanoi Jane.
The American people need to know this.
26 posted on 02/08/2004 3:26:49 PM PST by ATCNavyRetiree
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To: sinkspur
Kerry seems to want to run an Ann Richard/Al Gore "Bush is a daddy's boy piece of garbage" campaign.

It has worked so brilliantly in the past. Not.

I think the Edwards "nice guy" approach would be far more effective.
27 posted on 02/08/2004 3:27:09 PM PST by ambrose (John Kerry is a War Criminal, Not War Hero)
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To: ambrose
Kerry seems to want to run an Ann Richard/Al Gore "Bush is a daddy's boy piece of garbage" campaign.

That was also Howard Dean's approach, and it didn't work for him, either.

Anger might gin up the base, but the Democrats are not going to attract the middle with anger.

Kerry's too arrogant to be nice. I don't think he's got it in him.

28 posted on 02/08/2004 3:38:05 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: demlosers
Kerry aides told TIME last week that they were worried their candidate had already come close to crossing the line.

LOL, that's rich. Are they also concerned that he has "come close to crossing the line" about exploiting his war experiences? Why would we want to elect a President based on what the man did in about a five-minute time span 35 years ago? Marrying filthy rich widows (Republican to boot!), becoming Senator, national notoriety at 25 - this long-faced Brahmin has gotten more mileage out of less than just about anyone else in history. I think it's about time to stop the gravy train.

29 posted on 02/08/2004 3:43:21 PM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: demlosers; All
Senator John Kerry, the Democratic front runner, received an early discharge from military service too—because he had earned three Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star and a Silver Star during 11 months in Vietnam...

OK...I wouldn't normally ever have a bad word to say about a record like this, but on a "private forum" I might as well ask a few questions about the good Senator's record, since he's worked very hard to disparage the good President's record (as well as the National Guard servicemen in general)...

Might one ask whether Senator Kerry's "chestful of medals" resulted from extremely hazardous duty, or whether he might have been a tiny bit inept at avoiding harm's way? (very nasty to say, I know, but I'm talking Kerry here, and not medal-earners in general)...

Might one also ask how the Senator was deemed eligible for "early discharge", since to all appearances (?) he was not too grievously injured, despite the horrifying combat experiences? (at least, he seemed well able to spend the "last year of service" for which he acquired an "early release" organizing anti-war protests, throwing other people's ribbons over Washington walls, testifying before Congress against his comrades-in-arms who were still deployed, and doing his best to aid and abet Hanoi Jane and her ilk)...

And finally, just as a general observation, while the specific record of Sen. Kerry bears much more scrutiny than it's received so far, why is it people don't understand that a 20-year voting record on diverse issues, including defense and the military, must carry more weight in choosing a President or any other legislator, than 11 months of heroism 30 years ago??

(one last note...I'm quite sure no one ever called Sen. Cleland "unpatriotic"...it's possible that his voting record as a Senator was characterized as such, if he consistently voted against funding for defense and/or the military, but no one would ever question his service to his country as a soldier...this confusing of the issues via a constant drum-beat of half-truth "sound-bites" is the hallmark of the "new" Democrat party, and I'd urge every person, liberal or conservative, to stand up to the "lies and the liars that tell them"!!

/ rant, but I get so sick of hearing this "innuendo", if not outright "disinformation"...there are too many disengaged "sheeple" out there who hear one campaign ad, and then rush out to vote for their "candidate of choice" based on that "informed opinion". < sigh >

30 posted on 02/08/2004 3:54:31 PM PST by 88keys (are the Bush-bashing Democrat primaries, so beloved by the media, over yet?!)
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To: demlosers
After seeing what this issue did for Wesley Clark it seems pretty silly for Kerry to involve himself in this issue. I think the president should do 2 things. First, ONLY respond to accusations made by Kerry (not mcauliffe or any other scum) and simply forse John Kerry to state FROM HIS MOUTH exactly what his charge is. Put up or shut up Mr.Kerry!
31 posted on 02/08/2004 4:02:24 PM PST by anncoulteriscool
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To: demlosers
*****It was not until a week before Election Day in November 2000 that Gore surrogates accused Bush of having gone AWOL*****

Gee, I wonder if waiting till the last week or two was by design. HMMMM!

32 posted on 02/08/2004 4:04:43 PM PST by anncoulteriscool
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To: anncoulteriscool
Gee, I wonder if waiting till the last week or two was by design. HMMMM!

And the DUI dirty trick.

33 posted on 02/08/2004 4:11:40 PM PST by demlosers (SUV=Haliburton=Bush=Religion=Flag=VRWC=Repubs =WMDs= Oil=Black Helicopters=We're all going to die!!)
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To: sinkspur
"As someone else pointed out here, he shot a child, a woman, and two South Vietnamese soldiers....His record, upon close examination, is despicable."

Ohmigood, is that accurate? And I noticed from this article that he was only in the army 11 months, that's not even one year.

What IS the real story on John F'ing Kerry in Viet Nam? Maybe this is why he turned so anti-war, if all he did was kill women, children, and allies?


34 posted on 02/08/2004 4:15:31 PM PST by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: Hon
The "time-line" you posted (link) is very interesting...why no mention of Purple Hearts?? (unless I didn't read carefully...but all I saw was, "he shot a Viet Cong guerilla who was threatening his men, and received a silver star...then he came home"...)

(or do you get Purple Hearts later? sorry, I'm civilian and clueless about the "protocol"!)

35 posted on 02/08/2004 4:21:16 PM PST by 88keys (are the Bush-bashing Democrat primaries, so beloved by the media, over yet?!)
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To: anncoulteriscool
Kerry's already attempting to backpedal a little. From another thread, he was quoted today as saying:

"The issue here is, as I have heard it raised, is was he present and active in Alabama at the time he was supposed to be," said Kerry, a decorated Vietnam War veteran. "I don't have the answer to that question and just because you get an honorable discharge does not in fact answer that question."

No, the issue was Kerry compared serving in the National Guard to being a draft-dodger, and insiuated W was AWOL. Of course, the media will never call him on his quotes from just a few days ago.

36 posted on 02/08/2004 4:35:53 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: VOA
I wonder why no one ever looked at Dick Gephardt's record in the Air National Guard (1965-71)?
37 posted on 02/08/2004 4:40:09 PM PST by gaspar
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To: mass55th
Kerry was on river patrol beginning in December 1998 and ending shortly after March 13, 1969 -- or less than four months. In that period he suffered an arm wound on December 2 (no loss of duty time), a shrapnel wound in the thigh on Februry 20 (loss of three days), and an arm cut on March 13, 1969. Four days later he filed papers requesting discharge of duty in Vietnam. The request was approved and he returned to the USA.
38 posted on 02/08/2004 4:48:24 PM PST by gaspar
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To: gaspar
Thanks for the info.
39 posted on 02/08/2004 5:08:10 PM PST by mass55th
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To: Hon
The link says this: "May 23: Kerry marries Julia Thorne, his best friend's sister."

I wonder if his friendship with his first wife's brother ever survived the divorce? Anybody know?

40 posted on 02/08/2004 5:09:15 PM PST by mass55th
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