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Ordeal finally ends for family (Mexican hospital: no release untill bill is paid)

Posted on 02/06/2004 5:21:35 PM PST by lewislynn

Ordeal finally ends for family

By JULISSA McKINNON
BEE STAFF WRITER

After surviving a head-on collision in Mexico, three members of a Waterford family were eager to end their three-week-stay in a foreign hospital and get home.

Luz Maria Saldivar and her children, 15-year-old Natalie and 13-year-old Norberto Jr., needed to pay their respects to Norberto Saldivar Sr. and 12-year-old Gerardo, who both died in the Jan. 14 crash. Their bodies were flown home and were buried at Lakewood Memorial Park, Hughson.

The family had been driving on a desert highway in Mexico, returning home after the family's first vacation to Luz Maria Saldivar's native land. She was sleeping when the crash occurred about 11 a.m., and awoke wracked with pain from a broken left arm and leg.

Even though emergency surgeries had been done on Luz Maria, 43, and her children, and doctors had stopped administering treatment, the Saldivars weren't allowed to leave Hospital Universitario in Saltillo, Mexico, until Saturday, almost three weeks after the accident.

Only after a $15,000 cash payment was sent to the hospital by the Saldivars' relatives in California were the mother and two teenagers released.

Reyna Saldivar, the children's aunt, said the hospital refused to accept reimbursement from the family's insurance company. They wanted the cash up front, she said.

"They just didn't want to deal with the paperwork," she said. "They wanted the money in full. It was horrible. We had to be calling them and calling them."

All the calls from the Saldivar family and their insurance company were futile. Hospital officials would not budge, Reyna Saldivar said.

After several days of bickering, Luz Maria Saldivar's brother Gabriel Barajas emptied his savings and wired $15,000 to the hospital.

A medical flight that began in Georgia late Saturday ferried the mother and her two children from Mexico to Children's Hospital Central California in Madera.

Hospital says money not there

Monday, Reyna Saldivar said a Saltillo hospital official called, claiming the $15,000 hadn't arrived.

Reyna Saldivar said she confirmed with Western Union that the money had been picked up and called the hospital official back.

"I told him, 'Listen, if you think you're going to get more money out of us, you put us through hell for 2 1/2 weeks. I never want to hear your voice again,'" she said.

Despite the children's long stint at the Saltillo hospital, doctors did not discover all their injuries, she added.

Staff at Madera's Children's Hospital discovered that Natalie Saldivar had untreated hip and leg fractures, hospital spokeswoman Micheline Golden said.

Doctors in Madera continued caring for some of Norberto's remaining head contusions Golden said, and he was released Thursday.

The medical staff in Mexico had treated the children's most life-threatening injuries, Reyna Saldivar said. Natalie lost her right arm in the wreck, and Norberto Jr. suffered severe internal bleeding and remained in a coma for several days.

Tom Killian, a California Highway Patrol officer who helped connect the Saldivar children with the Shriners Hospital in Sacramento, said that eventually Natalie will go there to get a prosthetic arm.

He added that the Mexican hospital essentially held the Saldivars hostage for $15,000 ransom.

Think vacation plans carefully

Killian said the family's ordeal with the Mexican medical system makes him think twice about vacationing south of the border.

"I'll never go to Mexico on vacation. Can you imagine being in some Mexican hospital and being a tourist they think they can get money out of? They'll hold you for ransom," Killian said.

Reyna Saldivar said her family probably won't be traveling to their native land anytime soon either.

"At this time, we don't feel like going there," Saldivar said. "It's not to say we'll never go there again. Someday I'd like to see my uncles in Guadalajara. But right now, I'm afraid to go."

Bee staff writer Julissa McKinnon can be reached at 578-2324 or jmckinnon@modbee.com.

Remembrances may be made to the Saldivar Family Memorial Fund, Bank of the West, 12710 Bentley St., Waterford 95386.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico
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To: Glenn
You check out without a physician's blessing, your insurance won't cover the stay at hospital A. Rules are rules.

I can't say I blame them but we're talking a Mexican hospital that has already refused payment from insurance companies.

21 posted on 02/07/2004 12:03:15 AM PST by lewislynn (I'll give "the rebate" back if I can have my country back....Mr. President.)
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To: Travis McGee
It does seem to be getting worse, doesn't it?
22 posted on 02/07/2004 4:20:47 AM PST by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: lewislynn
Totally disgusting.
23 posted on 02/07/2004 4:28:18 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
24 posted on 02/07/2004 4:33:38 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: lewislynn
You're so right. If that's the standard they apply, we should do the same.
25 posted on 02/07/2004 4:40:05 PM PST by neutrino (Oderint dum metuant: Let them hate us, so long as they fear us.)
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To: lewislynn
...more from the neighbor to the south, that just keeps on giving. One has to question at some point just what it will take for our president, congressmen, senators and state leaders to take their heads out of their a--es and clean up this mess.

Can anyone here say with a straight face that there wouldn't be world-class outrage if we were to treat foreign citizens, and a foreign nation the same way Mexico treats our citizens and our nation?

Enough is enough, and enough was reached more than fifteen years ago.
26 posted on 02/07/2004 4:42:23 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: lewislynn
Yep, their prison system would also be a good model for us. I doubt ours would be so full if our prisoners were treated like that. In some prisons, if your family doesn't bring you your food, you don't eat.
27 posted on 02/07/2004 4:46:58 PM PST by WV Mountain Mama (Who lives in a pineapple under the sea? How many just sang that line?)
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To: lewislynn
Exactly. We give illegal aliens free medical care and our hospitals and clinics have to close cause they can't charge their patients for what it costs to treat them. Mexico doesn't give foreigners without medical insurance a free ride. Its time we gave those seeking medical treatment in this country some of Mexico's "tough love." It would make medical care more affordable to millions of Americans who now have to pay higher insurance premiums or simply do without. Hey Jorge W. Bush, are you listening?
28 posted on 02/07/2004 4:47:50 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: lewislynn
Do you happen to have the URL for this story? I can't find it at www.sacbee.com.
29 posted on 02/07/2004 7:08:09 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: lewislynn
Please ignore my post 29. I found the URL at the Modesto Bee. I had just assumed that it was at the Sacramento Bee. (Duh!)

http://www.modbee.com/local/story/8093122p-8950586c.html

30 posted on 02/07/2004 7:12:19 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: Travis McGee
DON'T GO TO THAT CORRUPT PESTHOLE

Just think, millions of citizens from that corrupt pesthole reside here in the good ol' USA - can you see America in ten years?

31 posted on 02/07/2004 8:15:38 PM PST by janetgreen (WANTED: A President Who Will Protect Our Borders From Invasion)
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To: gubamyster; Pro-Bush; FairOpinion; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; ...
Our President needs to see this article so he can see what his buddy Fox does in relation to 'his' borders and stop letting him make demands on us!
32 posted on 02/08/2004 2:57:45 AM PST by JustPiper (D A M N I T O L Take 2 and the rest of the world can go to hell for up to 8 full hours)
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To: lewislynn
I wonder what kind of insurance this family had. When you drive in Mexico, it's important to buy Mexican auto insurance --- I think some people figure they can just do whatever --- if their bill doesn't get paid, no problem. People need to check these things out before taking that trip --- they don't have the government paying for everything there like it does here.
33 posted on 02/08/2004 7:23:18 AM PST by FITZ
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To: goldstategop
Mexico doesn't give foreigners without medical insurance a free ride.

That's true --- when you go to Mexico, you know you should buy Mexican insurance for the time you plan to be over there. The reverse should hold true for us --- I think the Mexican hospitals have a long enough history of certain types coming over who will never pay their bill if allowed to leave before paying it. If these people have insurance, the insurance will reimburse what they had to pay most likely and this isn't that bad.

34 posted on 02/08/2004 7:26:40 AM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
This is rich. Suppose the US hospitals began to do the same thing... ALL YOUR HACIENDAS BELONG TO US FOX
35 posted on 02/08/2004 7:28:09 AM PST by cyborg
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To: cyborg
US hospitals won't do the same because they can count on the government here robbing the taxpayers instead. If someone doesn't choose to pay their bill then we do --- in a way I can't criticize the Mexican system in this --- I have a feeling these people failed to purchase that Mexican insurance we are all advised to purchase before going over.
36 posted on 02/08/2004 7:43:07 AM PST by FITZ
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To: JustPiper; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; dagnabbit; Pro-Bush; ...
Thanks for the ping.

"I'll never go to Mexico on vacation. Can you imagine being in some Mexican hospital and being a tourist they think they can get money out of? They'll hold you for ransom," Killian said."

Any tourist business people here?

Looks like Americans may just have to settle for the beauties of the United States for the foreseeable future.

37 posted on 02/08/2004 8:04:50 AM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: lewislynn
If that had happened to my family I'd be making a quick trip to that hospital with a lead pipe and ski mask.
38 posted on 02/08/2004 11:22:22 AM PST by Ajnin
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To: Ruiz

Well, if you really are related to them, I'm terribly sorry for your loss, and for what your surviving relatives endured.

That being said, please check posting rules, and cut out the profanity, okay? I understand you're upset, but that ain't kosher.

Thanks.


40 posted on 04/15/2005 9:25:12 PM PDT by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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