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About Kerry's Purple Hearts And Reassignment
Boston Globe ^ | 6/16/2003 | Michael Kranish

Posted on 02/03/2004 12:10:41 PM PST by Hon

[I thought it would be of interest to highlight some passages from an article in the series "A Candidate In The Making" from the Boston Globe. Given Kerry's charges about Bush's National Guard duty, I think it is appropriate that Kerry's own record should be given some similar scrutiny.]

Heroism, and growing concern about war

By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff, 6/16/2003

Kerry served two tours. For a relatively uneventful six months, from December 1967 to June 1968, he served in the electrical department aboard the USS Gridley, a guided-missile frigate that supported aircraft carriers in the Gulf of Tonkin and was far removed from combat.

Kerry initially hoped to continue his service at a relatively safe distance from most fighting, securing an assignment as "swift boat" skipper. While the 50-foot swift boats cruised the Vietnamese coast a little closer to the action than the Gridley had come, they were still considered relatively safe.

"I didn't really want to get involved in the war," Kerry said in a little-noticed contribution to a book of Vietnam reminiscences published in 1986. "When I signed up for the swift boats, they had very little to do with the war. They were engaged in coastal patrolling and that's what I thought I was going to be doing."

But two weeks after he arrived in Vietnam, the swift boat mission changed -- and Kerry went from having one of the safest assignments in the escalating conflict to one of the most dangerous.

Kerry experienced his first intense combat action on Dec. 2, 1968, when he "semi-volunteered for, was semi-drafted" for a risky covert mission in which he essentially was supposed to "flush out" the enemy, using a little Boston Whaler named "Batman." A larger backup craft was called "Robin."

Unfortunately, Robin had engine trouble, and Batman's exit was delayed until the boats could depart in unison. The Batman crew encountered some Viet Cong, engaged in a firefight, and Kerry was slightly wounded on his arm, earning his first Purple Heart on his first day of serious action.

"It was not a very serious wound at all," recalled William Schachte, who oversaw the mission and went on to become a rear admiral.

In any case, Kerry said he was appalled that the Navy's ''free fire zone'' policy put civilians at such high risk. So, on Jan. 22, 1969, Kerry and several dozen fellow skippers and officers traveled to Saigon to complain about the policy in an extraordinary meeting with Zumwalt and the overall commander of the war, General Creighton W. Abrams Jr. ''We were fighting the [free fire] policy very, very hard, to the point that many of the members were refusing to carry out orders on some of their missions, to the point where crews were starting to mutiny, [to] say, `I would not go back in the rivers again,''' Kerry recalled during a 1971 television appearance on the Dick Cavett Show.

But Kerry went back in the rivers. Indeed, it was after this meeting that he began his most deadly round of combat. Within days of the Saigon meeting, he joined a five-man crew on swift boat No. 94 on a series of missions in which he won the Silver Star, the Bronze Star, and two of his three Purple Hearts. Starting in late January 1969, this crew completed 18 missions over an intense and dangerous 48 days, almost all of them in the dense jungles of the Mekong Delta.

The most intense action came during an extraordinary eight days of more than 10 firefights, remembered by Kerry's crew as the "days of hell."

On Feb. 20, 1969, Kerry earned his second Purple Heart after sustaining a shrapnel wound in his left thigh.

A couple of weeks later, on March 13, 1969, a mine detonated near Kerry's boat, wounding Kerry in the right arm, according to the citation written by Zumwalt.

Kerry had been wounded three times and received three Purple Hearts. Asked about the severity of the wounds, Kerry said that one of them cost him about two days of service, and that the other two did not interrupt his duty. "Walking wounded," as Kerry put it. A shrapnel wound in his left arm gave Kerry pain for years. Kerry declined a request from the Globe to sign a waiver authorizing the release of military documents that are covered under the Privacy Act and that might shed more light on the extent of the treatment Kerry needed as a result of the wounds.

"There were an awful lot of Purple Hearts -- from shrapnel, some of those might have been M-40 grenades," said Elliott, Kerry's commanding officer. "The Purple Hearts were coming down in boxes. Kerry, he had three Purple Hearts. None of them took him off duty. Not to belittle it, that was more the rule than the exception."

But Kerry thought he had seen and done enough. The rules, he said, allowed a thrice-wounded soldier to return to the United States immediately. So Kerry went to talk to Commodore Charles F. Horne, an administrative official and commander of the coastal squadron in which Kerry served. Horne filled out a document on March 17, 1969, that said Kerry "has been thrice wounded in action while on duty incountry Vietnam. Reassignment is requested ... as a personal aide in Boston, New York, or Wash., D.C. area."

Horne, in a telephone interview, said the transfer request was allowed under then-existing naval instructions and was "above board and proper." Transfer was not automatic and was subject to approval by the Bureau of Naval Personnel, he said.

"I never once in any way thought my decision was wrong," Horne said. "To get three Purple Hearts and not be killed is awesome."

Kerry, asked whether he is certain a rule enabled him to leave Vietnam after three Purple Hearts, responded: "Yep. Three and you're out."

For the past several weeks, Kerry's staff said it has been unable to come up with a Navy document to explain that assertion. On Friday, however, the National Archives provided the Globe with a Navy "instruction" document that formed the basis for Kerry's request. The instruction, titled 1300.39, says that a Naval officer who requires hospitalization on two separate occasions, or who receives three wounds "regardless of the nature of the wounds," can ask a superior officer to request a reassignment. The instruction makes clear the reassignment is not automatic. It says that the reassignment "will be determined after consideration of his physical classification for duty and on an individual basis." Because Kerry's wounds were not considered serious, his reassignment appears to have been made on an individual basis.

Moreover, the instruction makes clear that Kerry could have asked that any reassignment be waived.

The bottom line is that Kerry could have remained but he chose to seek an early transfer. He met with Horne, who agreed to forward the request, which Horne said probably ensured final approval. The Navy could not say how many other officers or sailors got a similar early release from combat, but it was unusual for anyone to have three Purple Hearts.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004; johnkerry; kerryrecord; mojoreassigns2fr
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To: Seamonster
Is shooting a downed and wounded VietCon warrant a Silver Star...

It depends on whether or not you have friends in high places.

LBJ’s Silver Star: The Mission That Never Was

101 posted on 02/03/2004 9:01:18 PM PST by Polybius
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To: truth_seeker
"Since Kerry served both before and after that date, he served in Johnson's and Nixon's War"

Ah, but Kerry has repeatedly and falsely stated that Nixon sent him to Viet Nam, when in fact it was Johnson who sent him to Vietnam, and it was Nixon who sent him home.

102 posted on 02/03/2004 9:02:16 PM PST by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
" Despite this, out of a total production of 340 aircraft, 112 (including 17 two-seat F-106Bs) were lost in crashes or in ground fires during the 29 year career of the Delta Dart...."

Thanks, Cookie. Makes me crazy when people just assume fighter pilot is like taxicab driver with wings on.

I believe it was the F-104 that they dubbed the "Flying Coffin" because of all the crashes and deaths --even though they never were "in combat."

103 posted on 02/03/2004 9:17:50 PM PST by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Great catch!
104 posted on 02/03/2004 9:18:43 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: wtc911; MEG33
I agree. Getting hit three times means that maybe God is telling you something. I, for one, wouldn't be as Gung Ho after the third PH.
105 posted on 02/03/2004 9:40:15 PM PST by My Dog Likes Me
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To: Hon
I think the reason the military has a three PHs and you're out policy is that - especially in Kerry's case - the mental effects of getting wounded three times may impair a commander's ability to accomplish the mission, or a soldier's ability to "walk point" and carry out orders effectively.
106 posted on 02/03/2004 9:45:27 PM PST by My Dog Likes Me
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To: wtc911; Squantos; harpseal; river rat; tet68; Matthew James; SLB
LBJ ran for Congress on the strength of his silver star, which history proves was totally bogus, a made up thing. So no, this is NOT out of bounds.

Especially if an officer requested to didi out of the war zone after 3 flesh wounds, which did not require hospitalization, or take him off of duty.

108 posted on 02/03/2004 10:02:38 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Hon
LBJ's silver star was bogus 7 ways from sunday. Purely made up, a lie, a fraud, a prop to use in a run for Congress.
109 posted on 02/03/2004 10:07:56 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: wtc911; Travis McGee
Well shame on me then because Kerrys medals were tossed away in protest and now he want's to ride to the white house on em......pure BS !
110 posted on 02/03/2004 10:09:14 PM PST by Squantos (Salmon...the other pink meat !)
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To: BonnieJ; sneakypete
Amen. You nailed it.

More recently, I have read about badly wounded soldiers and marines evacuated to hospitals in Kuwait, who have snuck out of their hospitals and hitched rides back to their units in Iraq.

The opposite of what Kerrey did to sea-lawyer three minor flesh wounds into a get-out-of-combat ticket.

111 posted on 02/03/2004 10:13:16 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Hon
Cleland was wounded by dropping his own grenade accidentally, not in combat.
112 posted on 02/03/2004 10:14:28 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: My Dog Likes Me
Most folks with scratches did NOT put in for PHs, and did not get them. I am referring to Kerrey-like wound requiring no hospitalization and no lost duty.

OTOH, if you were looking for a quick ticket out, you would catalog each and every scratch.

113 posted on 02/03/2004 10:17:11 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Hon
pathetic
114 posted on 02/03/2004 10:20:02 PM PST by breakem
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To: cookcounty
"Ah, but Kerry has repeatedly and falsely stated that Nixon sent him to Viet Nam, when in fact it was Johnson who sent him to Vietnam, and it was Nixon who sent him home."

I seem to recall he was in country twice, the second time being after 20 Jan. 1969. If correct, Kerry could be parsing it such that Nixon did, in the sense necessary for him, "send him to Vietnam."

Whatever the case, I don't view this topic of discussion to be fruitful for the Bush cause.

More fruitful I believe, is his frequent flip-flop on major issues. And the basic Mass. liberal tag.

Bush will have his hands full. But these are only the primaries, to select who will please dems, who are primarily anti-war, pro-higher taxes, pro-abortion, pro-environment, etc.

They don't represent 100 percent of voters. The election is usually won/lost by successfully appealing to the center/independents.
115 posted on 02/03/2004 10:22:36 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: norton
PS: Might want to reconsider citing "Platoon" as a valid starting point for debate.

LOL - that's what I was thinking!

116 posted on 02/03/2004 10:32:52 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Four hours is too long for a Democrat to sit in the Oval Office, let alone four years. Vote W '04)
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To: Travis McGee
But, I think a soldier owes it to himself to get checked out by the medics for all "injuries incurred on active duty." This protects him when he applies for veteran disability services years down the road. Especially when the injury is in a combat zone.
I know a guy who hurt his back when he was in the Army (peacetime). Seems minor to me. Today he has a disabled veteran license plate and a federal job. Anything that happens on active duty is service-related.
This ain't a football game, Travis. You don't just "suck it up" and fail to report to sick call the next day. Vets who do this get the shaft. I'm sorry to be so cynical, but you know I'm right.

117 posted on 02/03/2004 10:40:04 PM PST by My Dog Likes Me
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To: truth_seeker
No.

His first "partial" trip was as a SEA-GOING electrical officer OFF-SHORE sitting in the air-conditioned "comfort" of a frigate off-shore.

Then, he left after only 6 months.
118 posted on 02/03/2004 11:35:20 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Travis McGee
A Silver Star - earned more than 3 decades ago, should not trump Kerry's leftist and anti-American behavior for the duration of his post Vietnam period and his entire political career..

His book, his relationship with Jane Fonda and the many false accusations made my Kerry and his group containing several "phony vets" -- should not be swept under the table..

Kerry needs to acknowledge his voting record, his relative's business relationship with communist Vietnam and his whitewash of the communist explanations on our MIAs...

Kerry has a house full of skeletons...

Kerry clearly has a problem with remaining on ONE SIDE of any issue...
He's a whore.

Semper Fi
119 posted on 02/03/2004 11:39:23 PM PST by river rat (Militant Islam is a cult, flirting with extinction)
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To: My Dog Likes Me
No, I don't. Most vets DO suck it up on scratches and climb back into the turret.

They don't try to sea-lawyer their way out of combat this way, leaving their buddies behind to fight. Not when their wounds are superficial, not even leading to a day of lost duty.

Remember, this 3 PHs rule is NOT mandatory. It's there for extreme cases, guys who keep getting shot or blown up, and who have used up all their chances. Even then, it's purely optional.

Kerry was never "shot up" and operated on to put him back together. He used three scratches as a means to escape combat. Any way you cut it, that's a fact.

120 posted on 02/03/2004 11:39:42 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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