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What do these Democrats Stand for, Anyway?
3 February 2004 | Andy Obermann

Posted on 02/03/2004 9:57:31 AM PST by AndyObermann

We are all pretty much aware of the Democratic presidential hopeful’s conflicting stances on our liberation of Iraq. We know that Senators Kerry and Edwards are hypocrites, Dr. Dean is an appeaser, Gen. Clark isn’t sure what he supports, and Dennis Kucinich is just a screwball. There is only one candidate with a respectable position on the issue— Sen. Joe Lieberman—and he is in fifth place. I realize by the time you read this, several of these candidates may not be candidates anymore, but let’s take a look at some of the domestic policies they might bring to the table in November, anyway.

As much as I respect and admire Gen. Clark’s military service, he is just not presidential material. His positions on issues, both foreign and domestic, are not only contradictory, but strengthen his neophyte image. For example, when asked by Joseph McQuaid (a Manchester, MA Union Leader) about his position on abortion, Clark commented that the law has no place whatsoever in the practice of abortion.

Clark: I don’t think you should get the law involved in abortion. McQuaid: At all? Clark: Nope. McQuaid: Anything up to delivery? Clark: Nope. Nope. McQuaid: Anything up to the head coming out of the womb? Clark: I say it’s up to the woman and her doctor, her conscience…you don’t put the law there.

Of course, Clark has since retracted his statements, but this exchange clearly demonstrates the General’s lack of thought in the serious issues of today and amateur political presence. Had he done so, he would have realized that if the head were out of the womb, the practice would be considered murder, not abortion (even though they are practically one in the same). Perhaps Gen. Clark just wants to save the woman the invasiveness of abortion. Just deliver the baby and…well, you get the idea.

Howard Dean has seemingly made a living making silly remarks and outrageous claims. Like this one on Sep. 25, 2003, after being asked what he felt would be the most unpopular move he might make as president, Dean replied, “As governor…I had to balance the budget during very difficult times. We have to balance the budget.” Interesting, a liberal Democrat, raving about balancing budgets. The problem is “President” Dean’s plans would only expand deficits to new, record levels. A study, conducted by the National Taxpayers Union, found that under Dean, the budget deficit would increase by a sum of $223 billion, after a full repeal of President Bush’s tax cut package. Among his spending plans is a “five to one match” for campaign contributions, a $30 billion contribution towards combating the spread of AIDS, same sex benefits for federal employees and a $100 billion “job creation" scheme. Typical for a tax and spend Democrat, but perhaps he should leave balancing budgets to the real conservatives.

Next up, John Edwards. According to Sen. Edwards, private school vouchers are dastardly because they promote “two school systems—one for the affluent and one for everyone else.” Let’s grant Mr. Edwards that this dichotomy in education does actually exist. Obviously, increased funding to public education over the past few decades hasn’t done the trick, so maybe incorporating something different will. You know what will make public education more effective? Competition. By breaking the monopoly of government schools, forcing competition with private schools for funding, public schools will have some incentive for improvement. So, in the mean time, since there are two school systems for our youth, why not allow “everyone else” the opportunity to join the “affluent” in private schools via government funded vouchers? It just makes sense.

It’s hard to attack Joe Lieberman, because by today’s standards, he is practically a Republican. The only difference is he wants to raise taxes and increase spending…well, I guess just raise taxes. President Bush and Congressional Republicans are doing a bang-up job increasing spending on their own.

Sen. John Kerry is another interesting one. Kerry seems to support opening our borders to any and all that wish to enter. “Anyone who has been in this country for five or six years…who has stayed out of trouble, ought to be able to [receive] American citizenship immediately.” Oh really? We should award illegal behavior with the gift of permanent and binding US citizenship? Even better, let’s wait until they have been here a few years before we do it, you know, so they are entrenched in our society. Hopefully they’ll even have a couple of kids, too. That sounds great. We’ll give them all Medicare and Food Stamps and Welfare to make sure they’ll vote for Democrats. That’s the ticket. Utterly ridiculous!

Speaking of ridiculous, let’s take this time to briefly talk about the other two candidates.

Dennis Kucinich…what can I say. On his official campaign website, Kucinich is proposing to create a new department in our government. To go along side the Department of Defense, the State Department, and the Department of Homeland Security, ole’ Dennis is proposing, get this, the Department of Peace and Tranquility. Through the new cabinet-level department, Kucinich hopes to, “…make of this world a gift of peace which will confirm the presence of universal spirit in our lives.” Enough said.

Finally we come to that old “race warlord” himself, Al Sharpton. When asked how his social activism would unite the country, Sharpton replied, “…my history of activism makes it easier for me than most. I am fighting for equal opportunity and protection under the law.” I guess his “fight” doesn’t apply to Jews who own businesses in Harlem. In 1995, Rev. Al led a protest against the store “Freddy’s” in Harlem. The storeowner, Freddy Harari, was forced to raise rent on a tenet, Sikhulu Shange—a black storeowner leasing from Harari. Harari’s rent had previously been raised—forcing him to take such action. The angry mob, led by Sharpton, targeted the Jewish Harari as a racist. Eventually they burst into the store, murdered four employees, and lit the place on fire, killing eight in total. So much for “equal protection under the law.”

Here’s the point; we must have a serious understanding of who these men are and what they represent. The damage they could do to the country, if elected, is unimaginable.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2004; abortion; amnesty; candidates; clark; conservatism; dean; democrats; education; edwards; election; immigration; jewish; kerry; kucinich; lieberman; racialequality; sharpton; vouchers

1 posted on 02/03/2004 9:57:33 AM PST by AndyObermann
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To: AndyObermann
It’s hard to attack Joe Lieberman, because by today’s standards, he is practically a Republican. The only difference is he wants to raise taxes and increase spending…well, I guess just raise taxes. President Bush and Congressional Republicans are doing a bang-up job increasing spending on their own.

It bears repeating.

2 posted on 02/03/2004 10:08:06 AM PST by newgeezer (...until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.)
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To: newgeezer
"There is only one candidate with a respectable position on the issue— Sen. Joe Lieberman—and he is in fifth place."

However, Lieberman is just as much of a squirrel as anyone else in the DemocRAT legion. In the last campaign, I heard him say that "in private" he was against abortion, but "in public" he was for it.

I wouldn't believe him for a minute even if he didn't sound like he was straining on a stool when he spoke!

3 posted on 02/03/2004 10:21:28 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: AndyObermann
There is only one word that adequately describes the current crop of Democrat candidates, and that is "reactionary". With the possible exception of Joe Lieberman (who got a little tarnished by adopting so many of the Gore positions out of necessity in 2000), as a group they do not view the foreign policy of George Bush as anything but an unmitigated disaster. The Middle East has been destabilized. The WMD fiasco proved that Bush was driven only by a desire for revenge for the assassination attempt on his father. The Islamic resistance is strengthened and energized. The US is spending WAY too much on our military effort. Our soldiers are dying for no good purpose. We may have caught Saddam, which was not a very important objective anyway, but Osama bin Laden is still on the loose. The grandstanding by Bush (landing on an aircraft carrier, the midnight meal service in Baghdad) is just photo-op posing.

And on the domestic front, too many breaks have been extended to the high-rollers of industry. The deficit is too big, and it is fueled by the useless tax cuts. The environment is in more rapid decay than it has ever known, the prescription drug plan costs WAY too much and does not provide the benefits it should, and the proposed amnesty plan for "undocumented workers" is far too harsh and won't work anyway. The US depends too much on Middle East oil, and the President thinks that drilling in the ANWR will relieve this problem. No Child Left Behind imposes way too many restrictions on the free exercise of teachers to teach in their own way in the classrooms, and there was not enough money provided anyway.
4 posted on 02/03/2004 10:24:09 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: nightdriver
and what is it that makes you trust Republican politicians. Don't you think they can be deceitful also?
5 posted on 02/03/2004 10:49:52 AM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: AndyObermann
"What do these dems stand for anyway?"

Most of these metrosexual dems don't even stand to pee.
6 posted on 02/03/2004 10:51:36 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: alloysteel; Jim Robinson
"The grandstanding by Bush (landing on an aircraft carrier, the midnight meal service in Baghdad) is just photo-op posing."

If the President didn't support the troops even Jim Robinson would be screaming to get the sob out of the White House!

7 posted on 02/03/2004 10:51:41 AM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: AndyObermann
What do these Democrats Stand for, Anyway?

The short answer is that they stand for the same things the GOP does. Stealing as much treasure and infringing on as many God given rights as possible.

8 posted on 02/03/2004 10:54:33 AM PST by carpio
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To: AndyObermann
The answer is ~~

GAY MARRIAGE !!!

9 posted on 02/03/2004 11:06:30 AM PST by expatguy
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To: AndyObermann
The democrats core beliefs from what I've dicovered by watching them debate are:

1. George W. Bush is a BAD, BAD person...If you created a clone using all the evil people in history it still wouldn't be as bad a George W. Bush.

2. Tax cuts are bad, bad, bad -- All american that didn't mail their tax cuts back to the IRS (or the DNC) should feel very guilty, the only way to absolve this guilt is by raising taxes twice the amount they were cut.

3. The War in Iraq and the War and Terrorism are Bad, Bad, Bad, Terrorism is a legal problem not a military one and Saddam should have been left in power, unless it was proven he planned to reduce taxes or donate to the Republican party.

4. The wealthiest 1% of Americans are almost as evil as President Bush. They deserve to have all their assets seized and be locked in prison or a least be taxed at the top marginal rate of 150%...(unless they make a sizeable donation to the DNC or MOVEON.ORG)

5. If elected president a democrat will provide universal health care, universal child care, universal welfare, universal housing, eliminate unemployment and provide 12 weeks a year of paid leave for all Americans... All while controlling spending and eliminating the deficit.

10 posted on 02/03/2004 11:10:29 AM PST by apillar
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To: AndyObermann
What do Democrats stand for?

Unlimited abortion rights, affirmative action, higher taxes, gay marriage, subjugating our foreign policy to supernational bodies such as the UN, a living Constitution, and socialized medicine.

These are the things that immediately come to mind....
11 posted on 02/03/2004 11:13:16 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: B4Ranch
"and what is it that makes you trust Republican politicians."

Unfortunately, I have to admit that I don't. I've seen too many Olympia Snows, Arlen Spectors, and Jacob Javits. None of them care about their oaths to obey the Constitution.

12 posted on 02/03/2004 11:48:35 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: carpio
REPEAT!:::REPEAT!:::REPEAT!:::REPEAT!:::REPEAT!:::REPEAT!:::REPEAT!:::REPEAT!:::

The short answer is that they stand for the same things the GOP does. Stealing as much treasure and infringing on as many God given rights as possible.

13 posted on 02/03/2004 12:17:04 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: Rummyfan
What do Democrats stand for?

They believe in the aquisition of power through dividing our country into manipulable and bribable groups.

They have no real love for any system, but the success of capitalism helps the other side, and injecting socialism into it helps them acquire power.

They believe they are at once so smart and so compassionate that their quest for power justifies corruption and lies.

14 posted on 02/03/2004 12:36:05 PM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: newgeezer
It is not the least bit hard for me to attack LIEberman, and I am pretty weary of seeing that stated here. He went along with the throwing out of the military ballots in the election of 2000, not to mention the attempted coup of the election to begin with. To make him some kind of good guy now is just ludicrous.

To actually state that there is no difference between democrats and republicans is just plain wrong, and another absolutely dangerous conclusion being spouted around here. What the heck is wrong with people? Time to wake up gang, the socialists are at the door and you are holding it open for them and inviting them in! Better do some serious thinking folks, and remember the past, or it will be repeated, and then some.
15 posted on 02/03/2004 12:41:43 PM PST by ladyinred (W/04)
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To: AndyObermann; Joy Angela
What do these Democrats Stand for, Anyway?
Hmmm,
1.) Intense and Confrontational Politics
2.)Entrusting social change to institutions, specifically the United States Government
3.) Other than to preserve and protect the Welfare-Regulatory State Status Quo at all costs, absolutely NOTHING!
16 posted on 02/03/2004 4:14:05 PM PST by Pagey (Hillary Rotten is a Smug and Holier- than- Thou Socialist)
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To: Pagey
Democrats stand for ... Hillary.

Because she shows them how to be evil
and still have great hair.

17 posted on 02/05/2004 12:56:46 AM PST by Joy Angela (GROUND ZERO IS HILLARY's CO-LEGACY)
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