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Kerry leading Bush in new poll
USA TODAY ^ | Feb 3rd, 2004 | Susan Page and Richard Benedetto

Posted on 02/03/2004 9:05:19 AM PST by The_Republican

Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry would defeat President Bush if the election were held today, according to a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll that shows serious vulnerabilities for the president. 

The survey, taken Thursday through Sunday, reflects the battering Bush has received from the Democratic presidential contenders for months and the questions raised in the past week about the administration's rationale for going to war with Iraq.

Even as a snapshot at a difficult moment, the poll shows perils for Bush early in the election year:

• Kerry defeated Bush 53% to 46%, a lead outside the poll's margin of error. North Carolina Sen. John Edwards edged Bush at 49%-48%, a statistical tie. Bush bested former Vermont governor Howard Dean by 7 points and retired Army general Wesley Clark by 3.

• Bush's job-approval rating dipped below 50% for the first time in his presidency, to 49%, and his disapproval rating rose to a record 48%. His approval ratings for handling the economy, Iraq and health care all fell to near-record lows.

• Support for going to war with Iraq also dipped below 50% for the first time, to 49%. The proportion of Americans who were certain that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or was trying to develop them before the war fell dramatically. More than four in 10 said the administration deliberately misled the public about whether Iraq had the banned weapons.

In an attempt to address that concern, Bush agreed Monday to order a bipartisan probe into prewar intelligence. He spoke before meeting with former chief U.S. arms inspector David Kay, who has told Congress that reports the arms existed were wrong.

Bush, whose job approval was a robust 60% just three weeks ago, faces a more difficult landscape and some sobering history. Since World War II, only two presidents have trailed challengers early in the election year. In 1948, Harry Truman was behind Thomas Dewey but won in November. In 1976, Gerald Ford was behind Jimmy Carter and lost.

"Kerry's got a big bloom on the rose ... and as soon as that wears off, this race is going to be competitive from start to finish," says Matthew Dowd, strategist for the Bush campaign. He predicts that either candidate will find himself up or down 3, 4 or 5 percentage points through the year: "In a tight race in a closely divided country, this is where we'll operate."

Mark Mellman, a pollster and strategist for Kerry, says the poll underscores the opening for Democrats.

"People are unhappy with his (Bush's) economy performance, they're unhappy with the situation in Iraq, and Kay has dealt his credibility and/or his competence a real blow," Mellman says. He said Kerry has shown "tremendous strength" in recent weeks.

Among the Democratic candidates, Kerry was supported by a commanding 49% of Democrats nationally who are registered to vote. Former front-runner Dean was second at 14%, followed by Edwards at 13%.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; matthewdowd; polls
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Same dynamics as Bush-1. Yesterday, I noticed the change in opening monolgues of Jay Leno and Letterman. The jokes have went from how Dems are competing to lose to Bush, to how Bush is a Goner! Leno: "Today was Grondhog day... President Bush saw his shadow.... it was John Kerry"...

I think President should go negative and go hard otherwise he would have same fate as his dad... nice guy, liked and respected, but not good enough for 2 terms....

1 posted on 02/03/2004 9:05:20 AM PST by The_Republican
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To: The_Republican
I think he should retract his stupid illegal amnesty proposal and instead propose some juicy tax cuts and well-defined spending cuts. That'd help.
2 posted on 02/03/2004 9:07:14 AM PST by k2blader (Folks who deny the President's proposal is an amnesty are being intellectually dishonest.)
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To: The_Republican
may be too late ...so many have lost faith in gwb...got a bad feeling in my gut now....
3 posted on 02/03/2004 9:07:49 AM PST by rrrod
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To: The_Republican
This is old news. This thread must have been posted at least a couple hundred times by now.
4 posted on 02/03/2004 9:09:37 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Excellence In Posting Since 1999)
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To: rrrod
Please save your nervous nellie posts for Nov. 2. We'll get a chuckle out of 'em then.
5 posted on 02/03/2004 9:10:59 AM PST by pissant
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To: rrrod
I have faith in GWB and will continue to do so. He is a good man and a man looking to the FUTURE for our country. For those who desert GWB they will be sorry and will deserve what they get with the dem/libs.
6 posted on 02/03/2004 9:11:14 AM PST by cubreporter
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To: The_Republican
Well, the election isn't being held today!!

I'm not paying any attention to November election polls until at least July.

7 posted on 02/03/2004 9:13:11 AM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: pissant
you misumderstood my meaning..i plan to support bush but he has to turn some things his way...
8 posted on 02/03/2004 9:13:12 AM PST by rrrod
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
This is old news. This thread must have been posted at least a couple hundred times by now.

First time I've seen it. Then again, I work for a living and don't have time to be glued to Free Republic.

9 posted on 02/03/2004 9:17:04 AM PST by arm958
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To: cubreporter
gwb is a good man ...but that may not work in the general election...ill not abandon him of course but i believe a lot will...remember a lot of folks thought a man like clinton would never get elected!..one thing is for sure ..gwb has been underestimated his entire political career..still im worried about the election outcome and the direction we are headed even if he does win..if he drops in popularity we may lose some republican seats in the house and the senate! to further complicate things we really dont have much in the way of leadership in the house or the senate...IMHO
10 posted on 02/03/2004 9:19:39 AM PST by rrrod
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To: The_Republican
I've given up, it's all over. Man the life boats, destination the shores of France!
11 posted on 02/03/2004 9:20:58 AM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: rrrod
well, my prediction is Bush 44, Kerry 6 (states that is), and the 6 Kerry wins will be tight races. Bush is such a superior campaigner to Kerry, I've been saying my prayers for a Kerry nomination (throw edwards in for VP too!)
12 posted on 02/03/2004 9:21:10 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant
HOPE YA ARE RIGHT!!!!
13 posted on 02/03/2004 9:22:48 AM PST by rrrod
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To: The_Republican
A conservative columnist just told me privately via email that he believes a "major conservative" will enter the presidential race as an independent in the spring and will swing against both Kerry and Bush. Presumably such a candidate would strengthen Kerry even further.
14 posted on 02/03/2004 9:24:59 AM PST by Theodore R. (When will they ever learn?)
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"..if he drops in popularity we may lose some republican seats in the house and the senate!"

I don't think it's THAT serious right now. Incumbents are tough enough to beat in the first place.

Also, assuming that Bush is reelected, there's a good chance that he will feel more at liberty to push better conservative legislation since he won't have to worry about reelection again.
15 posted on 02/03/2004 9:26:15 AM PST by blitzgig
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To: The_Republican
Kerry defeated Bush 53% to 46%

53% for Socialism

46% for Socialism Light

16 posted on 02/03/2004 9:26:49 AM PST by kevao
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To: The_Republican
Total Crap.
John Kerry has yet to receive 50% support among his own party and we are to believe he has 53% popular support throughout the nation? I don't buy it.
17 posted on 02/03/2004 9:28:33 AM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: BlueNgold
For those who missed it:

DrDeb posted this excellent analysis last night. It was a different poll but the conclusion applies to all polls.


REALITY CHECK

As predicted, Newsweek has provided its "Kerry for President" poll just in time for the Sunday talk shows (and its new 'Kerry' cover shot -- of course, one can only hope the cover shot does for Kerry what it did for Dean)!

Perspective:
1/29-30/04 49% approve 44% disapprove
1/22-23/04 50% approve 44% disapprove

WOW: How will the President ever recover from such a precipitous one-week decline in his approval ratings?! I was expecting something MUCH more dramatic from Newsweek!!! After all, the radical Left and Right (and their resective enablers in the media) have been taking unprecedented/unrelenting 'shots' at the President for weeks -- and this is the best they can do?!


Again, I hate to be redundant, but let's review the FACTS about polls one more time:

1.) Polls at this juncture merely track the general public's perception of the economy/job growth. As predictors of events in November 2004, polls conducted January - August are MEANINGLESS and polls conducted September - October are highly suspect. BOTTOMLINE: The only poll that matters is the one conducted in November!

2.) Relative to the general public's perception of the economy/job growth, tracking polls indicate that 'perception' started turning decidedly negative beginning with the January 9 jobs report. This past week, perception took another dive after Greenspan spooked the market and the 4.0 GDP growth failed to meet economists' expectations. FOR THESE REASONS ALONE, THE PRESIDENT'S APPROVAL RATINGS HAVE AND WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE A HIT. CONCURRENTLY, KERRY'S RATINGS WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE.

What will change this trajectory? A POSITIVE jobs report on February 6! If this report fails to meet analysts' expectations, the President's ratings will take another severe hit! We will then have to wait until spring for continued GDP growth, continued growth in corporate earnings and some good news on the job front (some pundits earmark March, others April).

[*Jobs: Many pundits indicate that the way in which the government collects and reports job data is flawed. For example, job growth numbers differ greatly depending upon which report one references. The household survey indicates that OVER 2 million NEW jobs have been added since the President took office; however, the 'business' survey puts this number at fewer than 200,000. Of course, the survey that will be referenced on February 6 will be the 'business' survey!]

AGAIN, IT'S A WASTE OF MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL ENERGY TO GET EXORCISED ABOUT POLLS AT THIS STAGE OF THE ELECTION CYCLE! Remember, we are helping the President run a MARATHON not a sprint!!

138 posted on 01/31/2004 9:06:53 PM CST by DrDeb
18 posted on 02/03/2004 9:30:32 AM PST by hobson
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To: arm958
On today's headline page there must be a least six threads currently running some for a few days now that tell the same story.
19 posted on 02/03/2004 9:31:02 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Excellence In Posting Since 1999)
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To: BlueNgold
"Total Crap.
John Kerry has yet to receive 50% support among his own party and we are to believe he has 53% popular support throughout the nation? I don't buy it."

Right, don't buy it. It's way too early to tell. The pollsters always screw up like this. We all know how they messed up on their Howard Dean calculations.
20 posted on 02/03/2004 9:31:48 AM PST by blitzgig
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