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Mark Steyn: The alternative to war was simple: defeat
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 02/03/04 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 02/02/2004 4:39:13 PM PST by Pokey78

If I were a resident of the United Kingdom I would not pay the BBC licence fee. There is something repulsive about a subsidy culture so secure that a publicly funded organisation can pay its chief executive £500,000 a year off the backs of widows and spinsters. If the BBC wants to throw away million-dollar salaries, it should do so on its own dime.

So, in that spirit, I hail the many stellar BBC "personalities" who are said to be threatening to quit the corporation. Go for it, Jonno! Sky beckons! Carlton awaits! And the Beeb can go back to paying 17 and sixpence a shift like it did in the good old days, so lovingly recreated in my colleague Sarah Sands's marvellous sepia-hued Ovaltine and Marmite sandwich of a column the other day.

Incidentally, apropos that full-page ad from Beeb bigshots in Saturday's paper, no self-respecting journalist should put his name to a statement such as: "Greg Dyke stood for brave, independent and rigorous BBC journalism that was fearless in its search for the truth." "Fearless in his search for the truth" sounds like something the announcer intones in a dark brown voice over the opening theme of a Fifties cop show: it's fine for Perry Mason or Eliot Ness in The Untouchables, but it's less credible applied to Greg Dyke, who was positively blasé in his search for the truth. That's why, nearly a month after the offending broadcast, he still hadn't bothered to listen to the tape of it and he offered the corporation's unconditional support to Gilligan without making sufficient effort to determine the accuracy of his allegation.

For all the self-puffery about fearless truth-seeking, that non-act of Dyke's is the central act of this drama. Why bother checking the story when it fits not only your own general assumptions but those of everyone you meet at dinner parties? Last June, I quoted Peter Worthington, the Canadian columnist and veteran of the Second World War and Korea, who likes to say that there's no such thing as an unpopular won war, and I noted that British public opinion seemed weirdly determined to make their Iraq victory an exception to that rule. And so it's proved. If I understand correctly, the people seem inclined to accept Lord Hutton's findings on the very narrow, technical, legalistic point of whether Mr Blair personally clubbed Dr Kelly over the head, dragged him out of the house and killed him, but they're furious that the good Lord declined to broaden his remit to the wider "underlying" issues, such as whether everyone's sick of Blair and, let's face it, his sucking up to that warmongering moron Bush is the final straw.

I certainly wouldn't want to live under New Labour, but, even so, with so many other available cudgels with which to beat Blair, I would caution against using the notion that he "misled" Britain into war, tempting though the scenario evidently is for Michael Howard. As things stand, it seems unlikely that WMD will be found in Iraq. Doesn't bother me. In these pages a few days after 9/11, I stated that I was in favour of whacking Saddam pour encourager les autres. There was no sharper way to draw a distinction between the new geopolitical landscape and the September 10 world than by removing a man who symbolised the weakness and irresolution of "multilateralism". He was left in power back in 1991 in order, as Colin Powell airily conceded in his memoirs, to keep the UN coalition intact. Lesson number one: don't form coalitions with people who don't share your war aims.

If the Gulf war was a cautionary tale in the defects of unbounded multilateralism, the Iraq war is a lesson in the defects of even the most circumscribed coalition. The Americans settled on WMD as the preferred casus belli because it was the one Blair could go along with: as one of his Cabinet ministers told me, they were advised that a simple policy of regime change - the Clinton/Bush line - would have been illegal. So they plumped for WMD. American and British intelligence were convinced Saddam had 'em, as were the French and Germans. Saddam thought he had 'em. So did his generals. It's believed that they were ordered to be used against the Americans as they galloped up to Baghdad from Kuwait. But when Saddam got there, the cupboard was bare. Strange, but apparently true. Anyone who's really fearless in his search for the truth can read David Kay's conclusions: it's a much more interesting story than "Blair lied!"

So Saddam didn't have WMD. Conversely, Colonel Gaddafi did. And hands up anyone who knew he did until he announced he was chucking it in. The only way you can be absolutely certain your intelligence about a dictator's weapons is accurate is when you look out the window and see a big mushroom cloud over Birmingham. More to the point, it's in alliances of convenience between the dictatorships and freelance groups that the true horrors lie - and for that you don't need big stockpiles, just a vial or two of this or that. You can try and stop it day by day at the gate at Heathrow, but, even if you succeed, you'll bankrupt the world's airlines.

The Left is remarkably nonchalant about these new terrors. When nuclear weapons were an elite club of five relatively sane world powers, the Left was convinced the planet was about to go ka-boom any minute, and the handful of us who survived would be walking in a nuclear winter wonderland. Now anyone with a few thousand bucks and an unlisted number in Islamabad in his Rolodex can get a nuke, and the Left couldn't care less.

The Right should know better. If he wants, Mr Howard can have some sport with Mr Blair. But, if he aids the perception that Blair took Britain to war under false pretences, the Tories will do the country a grave disservice. One day Mr Howard might be prime minister and, chances are, in the murky world that lies ahead, he'll have to commit British forces on far less hard evidence than existed vis à vis Saddam. Conservatives shouldn't assist the Western world's self-loathing fringe in imposing a burden of proof that can never be met. The alternative to pre-emption is defeat. If you want a real "underlying issue", that's it.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bbc; davidkay; defeat; gaddafi; marksteyn; marksteynlist; prewarintelligence; surrendermonkey; wmd
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1 posted on 02/02/2004 4:39:14 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; deport; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; JohnHuang2; ...

Unexcerpted, for your pleasure.

2 posted on 02/02/2004 4:41:19 PM PST by Pokey78 (Steyn: Leftists demonize Wolfowitz because his name begins with a big scary animal and ends Jewishly)
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To: Pokey78
Unexcerpted, for your pleasure.

Thanks!

3 posted on 02/02/2004 4:46:19 PM PST by aculeus
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To: Pokey78
Thanks, Pokey!

It occurs to me that the Conservatives in Britain are falling into the same trap as the democrats here. They detest Blair so much that they are using the war to club him, and that isn't right.

4 posted on 02/02/2004 4:47:02 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Pokey78
The alternative to pre-emption is defeat.

Actually there are a couple alternatives,
a good thrashing, then defeat,
a good trashing then having to struggle back and
kick ass while you have a broken nose.
I'll go with pre-emption for 500 please.
5 posted on 02/02/2004 4:48:00 PM PST by tet68
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To: Pokey78
I would like to be on your ping list please. Thanks.
6 posted on 02/02/2004 4:48:53 PM PST by hobson
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To: Pokey78
Thanks a million, Pokey78, for beating 'quidnunc' to the POST button.

I don't know which was worse - reading an excerpted Steyn or having to put up with his self-righteous blarney about why he did such a blasphemous thing!

7 posted on 02/02/2004 4:49:04 PM PST by Gritty ("The alternative to pre-emption is defeat.If you want a real "underlying issue",that's it"-Mark Stey)
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To: Pokey78
There is something repulsive about a subsidy culture so secure that a publicly funded organisation can pay its chief executive £500,000 a year off the backs of widows and spinsters.

Liberals have no moral qualms about living high off the hog on money from people much poorer than themselves.

8 posted on 02/02/2004 4:49:13 PM PST by expatpat
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To: Pokey78
Steyn BUMP!
9 posted on 02/02/2004 4:50:01 PM PST by Freakazoid (Freaking zoids since 1998.)
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To: Pokey78
More to the point, it's in alliances of convenience between the dictatorships and freelance groups that the true horrors lie - and for that you don't need big stockpiles, just a vial or two of this or that.

Steyn nails it again! ~~~ How quickly we forget.

10 posted on 02/02/2004 4:53:56 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: hobson
Okey dokey!
11 posted on 02/02/2004 4:54:35 PM PST by Pokey78 (Steyn: Leftists demonize Wolfowitz because his name begins with a big scary animal and ends Jewishly)
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To: Pokey78
War=victory. Appeasement=defeat. What part of that don't you lurking liberal wussies UNDERSTAND?!?!?
12 posted on 02/02/2004 4:54:44 PM PST by Viking2002
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To: Pokey78
An unexcerpted Thank You!
13 posted on 02/02/2004 5:01:16 PM PST by maica (Mainstream America Is Conservative America)
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To: Miss Marple
Some Republicans made the same mistake in the late Thirties and Forties.
14 posted on 02/02/2004 5:04:08 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (DUBYA 2004 - RATS NEVERMORE!!!)
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To: Pokey78
When nuclear weapons were an elite club of five relatively sane world powers, the Left was convinced the planet was about to go ka-boom any minute, and the handful of us who survived would be walking in a nuclear winter wonderland. Now anyone with a few thousand bucks and an unlisted number in Islamabad in his Rolodex can get a nuke, and the Left couldn't care less.

An excellent observation.

15 posted on 02/02/2004 5:05:10 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Pokey78
The Left is remarkably nonchalant about these new terrors. When nuclear weapons were an elite club of five relatively sane world powers, the Left was convinced the planet was about to go ka-boom any minute, and the handful of us who survived would be walking in a nuclear winter wonderland. Now anyone with a few thousand bucks and an unlisted number in Islamabad in his Rolodex can get a nuke, and the Left couldn't care less.

He hits the nail on the head.

16 posted on 02/02/2004 5:05:45 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Pokey78
>Lesson number one: don't form coalitions with people who don't share your war aims.

That's solid gold. The spiritual principle is all over the Bible.

I'm less sanguine, however, about the conclusion that there are no WMDs. I think we haven't seen the end of that story yet.
17 posted on 02/02/2004 5:07:26 PM PST by Paul_B
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To: Viking2002
"War=victory. Appeasement=defeat. What part of that don't you lurking liberal wussies UNDERSTAND?!?!?"

Not only does appeasement equal defeat; it signals weakness; of will; intentions; that we care more about counting our dead than standing up for what we believe in.

Makes us perfectly ripe for the next kill.

But the Libs do not get this either. . .or they do; and just do not see a problem with our hiding tiger position.

18 posted on 02/02/2004 5:08:53 PM PST by cricket
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To: Pokey78
I guess that is how we took down the Soviet Union.
19 posted on 02/02/2004 5:09:49 PM PST by ex-snook (Be Patriotic - STOP outsourcing American jobs.)
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To: Miss Marple
The Americans settled on WMD as the preferred casus belli because it was the one Blair could go along with: as one of his Cabinet ministers told me, they were advised that a simple policy of regime change - the Clinton/Bush line - would have been illegal. So they plumped for WMD.

Yup. Interesting.

Prairie

20 posted on 02/02/2004 5:16:07 PM PST by prairiebreeze (WMD's in Iraq -- The absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.)
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